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Blackleaf

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The US does it now and has since WW2

The US does not dominate the seas the way the Royal Navy did for 200 years. It's nowhere near as dominant on the seas as Britain was when she was in her pomp. For a start, the British always ensured that the RN was always at least twice the size as the next largest navy.

The Germans won Jutland.
They actually lost.

Taranto.... you beat the Italians! I'd be pretty hush if you are calling that a major victory.
Had it been the Yanks, Hollywood would have made a film about it by now and you'd all still be banging on about it.

All Oceans... all of them.
Nope. Not the Arctic.

What is the armament on a Russian Icebreaker again?
The US is way behind Russia in the Arctic. It lags behind Russia in the Arctic and doesn’t have enough facilities or resources there. Russia controls the Arctic (remember that half of all the people who live in the Arctic are Russians).
 

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The US does not dominate the seas the way the Royal Navy did for 200 years. It's nowhere near as dominant on the seas as Britain was when she was in her pomp. For a start, the British always ensured that the RN was always at least twice the size as the next largest navy.

SUCK ON OUR cannonBALLS!





The US is way behind Russia in the Arctic. It lags behind Russia in the Arctic and doesn’t have enough facilities or resources there. Russia controls the Arctic (remember that half of all the people who live in the Arctic are Russians).
ALL OCEANS!

 

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Of course you do, and you back up your fantasies with computer models of ships that will never ever exist



The US can wipe out any threat in the arctic at the push of a button, they don't need to send an actual vessel up there, especially to deal with Russia's circa cold war navy.

On that note, the US Navy could easily sail up the Thames and gut London before lunch and still make it back to the open ocean before afternoon cocktails


True enough, Capt., but No Booze allowed on US ships of war.
 

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SUCK ON OUR cannonBALLS!

No, thanks.



ALL OCEANS!

Except the Arctic and, no doubt, several other areas. The US Navy is in no position to build a global land empire the way the Royal Navy was.

True enough, Capt., but No Booze allowed on US ships of war.


It's a shame they got rid of rum rations from the Royal Navy in 1970. They should reinstate them.
 

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True enough, Capt., but No Booze allowed on US ships of war.

My brother was on the USS Nimitz and they did 100+ Days straight in the Indian Ocean. They were the first USN sailors to drink beer at sea since the Civil War. They gave them a couple of beers a piece.

When I was in Panama a couple of Marines came back to "base" all buzzed. There was a Brit Sub tied up on the canal and the Marines asked if they could go aboard. The Birt swabbies being the cheery chaps they are said sure and after a quick tour they bellied up to the bar on board and had a few.

No, thanks.

"Look men... look at that... look at all the Brit ships we just sank from our row boat. They suck pretty bad I'd say!"







Except the Arctic and, no doubt, several other areas. The US Navy is in no position to build a global land empire the way the Royal Navy was.

All oceans!

 

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One thing always puzzles me about these big floaters. What happens to all the dumps that are taken on these big ships? Do they dispose of it into the ocean so the poor ole fish have to smell it?lol
 

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I remember standing between the tombs of Admiral Nelson and the Duke of Wellington at St. Paul's. The moment was electric for me. They were giants.

The US Navy is troubled by a shrinking force of capital ships and an unrelenting global set of responsibilities.

The USN does control the global commons. It does protect international trade. But that permits free riders like China to benefit at the expense of American taxpayers. Maybe the USN should only protect the global commons for American flagged vessels and friendlies.

Btw, the last time the USN and Royal Navy fought was during the phase of the Napoleonic Wars we call the War of 1812. The performance of the USN in that conflict was heroic. The USN prevented the expansion of Canada southwards through victories in the Great Lakes.
 

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One thing always puzzles me about these big floaters. What happens to all the dumps that are taken on these big ships? Do they dispose of it into the ocean so the poor ole fish have to smell it?lol

It is disposed in the ocean as well as the trash. Tossed right into the sea.
 

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True enough, Capt., but No Booze allowed on US ships of war.

That can (and should) change... Why, it's common knoweldge that everyone gets a little braver with a few pulls from the flask under your belt

I remember standing between the tombs of Admiral Nelson and the Duke of Wellington at St. Paul's. The moment was electric for me. They were giants.

The US Navy is troubled by a shrinking force of capital ships and an unrelenting global set of responsibilities.

The USN does control the global commons. It does protect international trade. But that permits free riders like China to benefit at the expense of American taxpayers. Maybe the USN should only protect the global commons for American flagged vessels and friendlies.

Btw, the last time the USN and Royal Navy fought was during the phase of the Napoleonic Wars we call the War of 1812. The performance of the USN in that conflict was heroic. The USN prevented the expansion of Canada southwards through victories in the Great Lakes.

There is an excellent book called 'The Next 100 Years' that you might want to read if interested.

Touches on a number of global issues, but a central theme is that whoever controls the sea lanes, controls the overall economy.