The overwhelming sky

[selfsame]

This will happen when the earth will stop its axial rotation after less than 1000 years from now. The gases of the atmosphere will mix with each other in addition to water vapor, and the suffocating and poisonous gases that are now high in the upper atmosphere will mix with other gases to form a thick suffocating and poisoning smoke.

A situation which is similar to the atmosphere of Venus now:

Quran: 88: 1-7
{ 1. Have you, [Mohammed, understood] the account of the overwhelming a [sky, when it had been] conveyed to you [in a previous revelation: 44: 10-11] b

2. On that day [many] faces will be humble c.

3. Toiling and laboring hard [in the life of the World: not for God, but for others.] d

4. Broil in a very hot fire [in the Next Life.]

5. Shall be given to drink from a very hot spring. e

6. They will have [in the Afterlife, following their death] no food save from [some kind of] thorn.

7. That [thorn] will neither fatten nor satiate.f}
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a Which will overwhelm people with its evil.
b That is His saying – be glorified – in the Quran 44: 10-11, which means:
(But watch [O Mohammed] for the day when the sky will bring an obvious smoke. That will overwhelm people, which will be a painful torment.)
This has in fact been explained in the interpretation of the Quran, soora or chapter 44.
c i.e. lowly, on which appear the signs of poverty and tiredness.
In fact, God – be glorified – mentioned the ‘faces’ in particular, because on them the signs of the sadness and delight appear, and by which man is recognized.
They are the associaters and the guilty.
d But they work for their idols and toil for their statues.
God – be glorified – said in the Quran 25: 23, which means:
(And We shall turn to the [righteous] work [which the associaters] did, and We shall make it [as] scattered dust.)
As such do they nowadays make feasts, burn incense, kindle the candle-sticks at the tombs of imams, and toil in sweeping and washing them, and they spread the carpet in its passages and spaces, and they make vows for the imams, and make celebrations in their death memories, and expend their money to construct their graves.
While all such acts are dedicated for those other than God, and so they will not be rewarded for them, but will be punished, because they are acts of association: for they have associated the imams with God in their expenditure and worship; in fact they exceeded in the sanctification of their graves more than the sanctification of God’s houses: the mosques.
That is because if you go into one of the mosques for praying, you will not see in it any candle-stick nor incense nor any chandelier like the many chandeliers which you see in the shrines of imams, nor one of such large and precious lamps. Moreover, you will see the doors of the shrines of silver and their windows of gold, while the doors of mosques are of wood and their windows of iron.
e Similar to them in the life of this World are the hot springs, e.g. the sulfur spring at Hammam Aliel near Mosul: its water is very hot.
f They will eat out of such food in the Barzakh world [or the Afterlife]; but when Doomsday will come and they will be admitted into Hell, they will not have any food other than fire only.
God – be glorified – said in the Quran 2: 174, which means:
(Those [scholars of Jews and others] who conceal that of the Scripture which God has revealed, and purchase a small gain in exchange of it; they [will] eat in their bellies nothing but fire.)

The Quran interpretation is by Mohammed-Ali Hassan Al-Hilly.

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[Cliffy]

You still pushing that BS? I though Dexter had straightened you out about how silly the crap is. It is quite obvious to anybody capable of critical thought that the Quran is completely off base when it comes to science.

 

[AnnaG]

hahahaha That must have been one mindblower of a vision that Mutthammed had that made him sound like a "prophet" back then. Thinking people would have just thought he was nuts and locked him up somewhere where he couldn't hurt himself or anyone else.
Did lophophora williamsii or papaver somniferum actually grow in the mideast at one time?

 

[DaSleeper]

You still pushing that BS? I though Dexter had straightened you out about how silly the crap is. It is quite obvious to anybody capable of critical thought that the Quran is completely off base when it comes to science.

Ditto!

hahahaha That must have been one mindblower of a vision that Mutthammed had that made him sound like a "prophet" back then. Thinking people would have just thought he was nuts and locked him up somewhere where he couldn't hurt himself or anyone else.
Did lophophora williamsii or papaver somniferum actually grow in the mideast at one time?

Ditto!

 

[gerryh]

roflmfao..... unbelievable.

 

[AnnaG]

Maybe it's something in the figs or dates?

 

[selfsame]

So when the earth will stop its axial rotation, the gases of the upper atmosphere like SO2, H2S, CH4, NH3 and others which till now they emerge from volcanoes; such gases will mix with each other and with the air, to form a thick smoke like that on Venus now.
The color of this smoke will be like Tahini or the sasame oil, which is the color of the atmosphere of Venus now.
Quran 70: 8
[Then God – be glorified – explained some events which will occur in that day which will last one thousand years, and He said:]
{ 8. The day when the sky shall be [as turbid] as the turbid [boiled] oil [of sesame] a}
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a The ‘sky’ is the gaseous layers, i.e. the atmosphere of the earth. The meaning: The sky will be turbid and unclear, due to many vapors and gases, so that it will be like the smoke.
In fact, God – be glorified – described the ‘muhl’ [which is the Arabic word in the aya] that it has three features:

The first: it is liquid; as in His saying – be glorified – in the Quran 18: 29, which means:
(And if they cry for help [because of the extreme thirst and heat of the fire], they will be helped with a water like the 'boiling turbid oil' [of sesame: the tahini] which will roast [their skin and gut] surfaces.)

The second: it has a dark color, is turbid: about black in color; as in His saying – be glorified – in the Quran 78: 24-25, which means:
(Neither cold [water] shall they taste therein, nor any [fruit] drink, but only boiling water and a black [or dark] liquid.)

The third: it is hot and boiling, as in His saying – be glorified – in the Quran 44: 45-46, which means:
(Like the "turbid oil [of sesame: or Tahini]" seething in their bellies [after its eating], like the seething of boiling water.)

So these three features is applicable to the fried and ground sesame, when it is boiled on the fire in order to separate the oil from it.

So the ‘muhl’ is the sesame oil with its residue, i.e. non-purified; which is called in Baghdad ‘Rashi’, and in Mosil and some other countries it is called ‘Tahini’
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So the sesame, following its frying on fire, will be ground, and if they want to separate the oil from its residue, the ‘Rashi’ or ‘Tahini’ will be boiled on fire, so the oil will separate from the residue. So the oil is called [in Iraq] ‘Sheeraj’, and the residue is called ‘Kusub’. Moreover, the Arabic word ‘muhl’ in this aya, has also been explained in the interpretation of the Quran, soora or chapter: 44 and 18.

This is the color of the 'tahini' of the sesame, which is the color of the cloud of Venus and the future atmosphere of the Earth:

I give the picture because some of you may not be familiar with this tahini paste made from sesame:

 

[AnnaG]

AHAH! It's the sesame paste, not opium, peyote, or fruits.
Acids and bases cancel each other out. And as I pointed out before, at the rate the Earth is slowing its rotation, it will be baked by the next phase of the sun long before the rotational spin quits. THAT is a simple matter of mathematics and observation. What you have to support your Mohammud and All Hilly is a superstitious pile of dog dung.

 

[selfsame]

So if we now study Venus: its movement and its atmosphere full of thick smoke, which is the color of the tahini, then certainly its people have perished by now; which will be the fate of people on Earth in the future, when the Earth will stop its axial rotation.

 

[Twila]

 

[selfsame]

I will ignore every rancorous post, and will only discuss with any reasonable question or comment.

You still pushing that BS? I though Dexter had straightened you out about how silly the crap is. It is quite obvious to anybody capable of critical thought that the Quran is completely off base when it comes to science.

Will Dexter change the picture of Venus or its atmosphere?

 

[Ludlow]

Let me guess,,,,,,,,but iffen we convert to your religion,,you know,,,cut off a few heads and flog a few folks,,,,we'll be spared.

 

[AnnaG]

So if we now study Venus: its movement and its atmosphere full of thick smoke, which is the color of the tahini, then certainly its people have perished by now; which will be the fate of people on Earth in the future, when the Earth will stop its axial rotation.

Nope. Venus has a thriving population (some 428 million) of turquoise-skinned, females and hermaphrodites

 

[selfsame]

Let me guess,,,,,,,,but iffen we convert to your religion,,you know,,,cut off a few heads and flog a few folks,,,,we'll be spared.

Don't guess, in fact I will not be sorry for you.

 

[Twila]

One of the biggest crimes of Islam is the rape of captured women. Approved by Allah in Quran everybody took advantage of Allah's approval and raped captured women including Muhammad, his companions and all the conquerors that followed .

Quran 33.50
"O Prophet! We have made lawful to thee thy wives to whom thou hast paid their dowers; and those whom thy right hand possesses out of the prisoners of war whom Allah has assigned to thee;..."

Muhammad raped Safiya and all his companions followed his example and treated slave women like they were not humans. Muslim apologists despite many hadiths shamelessly deny the charges and make different excuses. To Muslims any evil act whether it is rape, sex with a child or beating wife is legal as long as Allah approves it. They don't have brains of their own to know the difference between right and wrong, good and evil. Capturing women in wars or raids and then distributing them among the warriors to have sex with them is enough to prove that this evil religion is men made and have nothing to do with any fair, merciful loving God, if there is any.

Following quotes are from one of the greatest Muslim scholars/historians Al-Tabari, which again proves with out any doubt how Muslims were raping helpless captured women with no mercy just because they were non-muslims.

The History of Al-Tabari vol 13 - The Conquest of Iraq, South western Persia and Egypt. Page 42 events of 638 AD during Omar's Caliphate

"... Then the unbelievers began to flee and the Muslims attacked again. I go down into the trench and come to a tent in which there are pillows and clothes. Suddenly (I sense the presence of ) a human form hidden under some blankets. I tear them away and what do I find? A woman, like a gazelle, radiant as the sun. I took her and her clothes and surrendered the latter as booty, but put in a request for the maid, that she may be allotted to me. Thus I acquired her as a concubine; she later bore me a child."

The History of Al-Tabari vol 13 - The Conquest of Iraq, South western Persia and Egypt. Page 43 events of 638 AD during Omar's Caliphate

"-Al-Qa'qa' made prisoners of war and sent some of them to Hashim; so the latter and his men allocated these among themselves as part of the booty. The women among them were taken as concubines and bore their Muslim masters children. ...One of these women taken prisoner was Sha'bi's mother, who was first allotted to a man from the Banu Abs. She gave birth to a child but the father died. Then Sharahil took her unto him and she also bore him a child, Amir who grew up among the Banu Abs."

{b]If Muhammad was indeed a messenger and was getting revelations and not making them up, he must had been getting revelations from some evil spirit. Because no merciful loving god will allow such a mistreatment of its own creation.[/b]

 

[selfsame]

Prophet Mohammed did not rape anyone; Safiya is his wife and the mother of believers, and she agreed with delight to be honored as the wife of Mohammed, the master of the Arab and the non-Arab, and the descendant of Prophet Abraham and Ishmael.

Then when she complained to the Prophet that some of his wives ridiculed her, out of jealousy, what he said to her? He said to her: "Tell them that you are the descendant of Prophet Aaron and the wife of Prophet Mohammed."

So stop these lies, and it is so obvious that you know much details, and the argument is established against you before God.

Don't consider that my words are some insisting on you to convert; in fact I am not concerned about anyone may refuse or not; I am only concerned about telling people about the Glorious Quran.

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This is about the present circumstances on Venus:
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[AnnaG]

This is about the present circumstances on Venus:
The Universe and the Quran 2

Exactly! Now do you see what I mean by the Quran being a load of nonsense?

 

[Twila]

Prophet Mohammed did not rape anyone; Safiya is his wife and the mother of believers, and she agreed with delight to be honored as the wife of Mohammed, the master of the Arab and the non-Arab, and the descendant of Prophet Abraham and Ishmael.

Then when she complained to the Prophet that some of his wives ridiculed her, out of jealousy, what he said to her? He said to her: "Tell them that you are the descendant of Prophet Aaron and the wife of Prophet Mohammed."

So stop these lies, and it is so obvious that you know much details, and the argument is established against you before God.

Don't consider that my words are some insisting on you to convert; in fact I am not concerned about anyone may refuse or not; I am only concerned about telling people about the Glorious Quran.

Islam has also legalized adultery. Polygamy translates into legalized adultery.

Islam has legalized kidnapping as in kidnapping little girls and forcing them to "marry" depraved Muslim males.

Islam has legalized rape. Muslim male lechers are allowed to rape little girls that were forced to "marry" Muslim lechers.

Islam has legalized lying if it enhances the evils of Islam.

 

[AnnaG]

The fellow that teaches me about gardening sometimes told me today that Germany is having problems with the male refugees raping young women and girls. He says the newspapers are full of stories. And that about 80% of the refugees are males. Women and girls are scared to be alone.
So much for Islam followers being civilised.

 

[selfsame]

The Overwhelming Sky

This is also about the 'overwhelming sky' in the Quran 44: 9-16

"[Then God – be glorified –addressed His messenger, and said:]
9. In fact, they are in doubt [about the sending forth to the Next Life], playing [with the gifts they offer to their idols as a child playing with the dresses she prepares for her doll.]

10. But watch [O Mohammed a] for the day when the sky will bring an obvious smoke.

11. That will overwhelm people, which will be a painful torment. b

12. c [They will say:] "Our Lord, remove the torment from us; [for now] we do believe [in You and in Your prophets.]"

[So God – be glorified – said:]
13. They can receive no admonition at that time e, though [in the past] an apostle had come to them, [whose truthfulness was] obvious f.

14. Yet they turned away from him and said: "One taught [by men g], a madman h."

15. Behold, We are removing the chastisement a little [while i]; behold, you will come [to another torment and to another smoke coming from the bursting of the sun j.]

16. On the Day [of Doom] when We will assault most mightily; surely We will take revenge. k
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a i.e. wait and you, yourself, will see their punishment.
b This event will occur on Doomsday; such smoke will be formed from the gaseous layers which are above the earth, for they will tear up and mix with each other to become a smoke.
That is His saying – be glorified – in the Quran 21: 104, which means:
(As did We start [its] first creation [from smoke], will We turn it back again [into smoke] – a promise [binding] upon Us; surely We are going to perform it [as did We do before.])
It means: We will turn it back into smoke as was it in the beginning.
At that time, they will say:
c These ayat have been explained in my book The Universe and the Quran , under the title of The sky will be filled with fire and smoke
e The meaning: On that day there will be no messenger (or apostle) to guide them and they may accept his guidance, neither will their repentance be accepted if they repent, because the way to repentance will be closed or blocked.
The indication of this is His saying – be glorified – in the Quran 6: 158, which means:
(On the day [that] one of your Lord's portents will come, it shall not profit a soul to believe [at that time] that never believed before [the occurrence of that portent], or earned some good by his belief.
Say [Mohammed to these associaters and idolaters]: "Wait you [for the occurrence of that portent; for] we [too] are waiting [for your death in order that We will punish you in the world of souls].")
f According to his proofs and miracles.
g And so he brought the Quran.
h On account of his claiming the apostle-hood; therefore, they denied and hurt him.
i Because the smoke will disperse in the space, and so its impact on them will be less.
j Because the sun will burst and so fire and smoke will come out of it to fill the vicinity of the planets including the earth.
This has also been explained in my book The Universe and the Quran .

k i.e. We will take revenge on
(1)associaters,
(2)unbelievers,
(3)the guilty,
(4)wrong-doers,
(5)atheists,
(6)the disobedient
(7) and the deniers of the apostles (or the messengers.)

So they are seven kinds equal to the number of the letters of the Arabic word in the aya:
== م ن ت ق م و ن ==