The Origin of the Wuhan Coronavirus

spaminator

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Ugh… The site is intelligently designed in such a way that threads can go back for years and there could be an archive of thousands and thousands of them….

The active ones come to the top and Less active once fade to the back….& if you look hard you can find threads going back years and years if you search for them. Who knows what google search will bring someone new to explore the rants & raves from over the years….

There’s is not a problem with the site but just sour grapes in general at times. Nobody forces anyone to read anything…
sorry what i posted was sarcasm and frustration since there are posters who are fussy about what i have posted. :(
 

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2nd warning 1st domino to fall, pretty suspicious timing after the email revelation that he trained Wuhan Scientists

Longtime National Institutes of Health Director Francis Collins retires

Collins is the only NIH director to ever lead the agency under three consecutive administrations

"I fundamentally believe ... that no single person should serve in the position for too long, and that it's time to bring in a new scientist to lead the NIH into the future," Collins said in a post on the Department of Health and Humans Services website.

Collins joined Dr. Anthony Fauci, director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, in becoming one of the most visible public health advisers and voices during the coronavirus pandemic.

By training Collins is a geneticist, working in earlier stages of his career to identify the genes for cystic fibrosis and other disorders. He was nominated in 2009 by then-President Barack Obama to lead the NIH, a position for which he was unanimously confirmed by the Senate.

In 2007, Collins was awarded the Presidential Medal of Freedom by President George W. Bush, for his work mapping the human genome.
 

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Interesting after Trump put a moratorium on spending to Wuhan

Wuhan scientists and US researchers planned to create a new coronavirus in 2018: Consortium led by Brit Peter Daszak asked DARPA to fund research at lab in city where Covid pandemic began​

  • A 2018 grant proposal sought to combine data from similar strains for new virus
  • It was submitted by scientists from US, China and Singapore, but was rejected
  • A genetics expert from the WHO told The Telegraph that such work could explain why a close ancestor for Covid-19 has yet to be found in nature
  • The Wuhan Institute of Virology has consistently denied creating Covid-19
By CHARLOTTE MITCHELL FOR MAILONLINE

PUBLISHED: 18:08 EDT, 5 October 2021 | UPDATED: 21:59 EDT, 5 October 2021
 
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WHO says it may be 'last chance' to find COVID origins
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Stephanie Nebehay and Pushkala Aripaka
Publishing date:Oct 13, 2021 • 19 hours ago • 2 minute read • Join the conversation
People wearing protective clothing and masks arrive at Hankou Railway Station in Wuhan, to board one of the first trains leaving the city in China's central Hubei province, April 8, 2020.
People wearing protective clothing and masks arrive at Hankou Railway Station in Wuhan, to board one of the first trains leaving the city in China's central Hubei province, April 8, 2020. PHOTO BY HECTOR RETAMAL /AFP via Getty Images / Files
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GENEVA — The World Health Organization said on Wednesday its newly formed advisory group on dangerous pathogens may be “our last chance” to determine the origins of the SARS-CoV-2 virus and urged China to provide data from early cases.

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The first human cases of COVID-19 were reported in the central Chinese city of Wuhan in December 2019. China has repeatedly dismissed theories that the virus leaked from one of its laboratories and has said no more visits are needed.


A WHO-led team spent four weeks in and around Wuhan earlier this year with Chinese scientists, and said in a joint report in March that the virus had probably been transmitted from bats to humans through another animal but further research was needed.

WHO director-general Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus has said the investigation was hampered by a dearth of raw data pertaining to the first days of the outbreak and has called for lab audits.

The WHO on Wednesday named the 26 proposed members of its Scientific Advisory Group on the Origins of Novel Pathogens (SAGO). They include Marion Koopmans, Thea Fischer, Hung Nguyen and Chinese animal health expert Yang Yungui, who took part in the joint investigation in Wuhan.

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Maria van Kerkhove, WHO technical lead on COVID-19, voiced hope that there would be further WHO-led international missions to China which would engage the country’s cooperation.

She told a news conference that “more than three dozen recommended studies” must still to be carried out to determine how the virus crossed from the animal species to humans.

Reported Chinese testing for antibodies in Wuhan residents in 2019 will be “absolutely critical” to understanding the virus’s origins, van Kerkhove said.

The WHO, in an editorial in Science, said that detailed investigations of the earliest known and suspected cases in China prior to December 2019 were still needed, including analyzes of stored blood samples from 2019 in Wuhan and retrospective searches of hospital and mortality data for earlier cases.

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Labs in the area where the first reports of human infections emerged in Wuhan must be a focus, as ruling out an accident requires sufficient evidence, it said.


Mike Ryan, WHO’s top emergency expert, said the new panel may be the last chance to establish the origin of SARS-CoV-2, “a virus that has stopped our whole world.”

The WHO was seeking to “take a step back, create an environment where we can again look at the scientific issues,” he said. “This is our best chance, and it may be our last chance to understand the origins of this virus.”

Chen Xu, China’s ambassador to the UN in Geneva, told a separate news conference the conclusions of the joint study were “quite clear,” adding that as international teams had been sent to China twice already, “it is time to send teams to other places.”

“I do believe that if we are going to continue with the scientific research I think it should be a joint effort based on science not by the intelligence agencies,” Chen said. “So if we are going to talk about anything, we are doing the whole business within the framework of SAGO.”
 
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