The 'Official' Quit Picking On Trump Thread

Who Hates Trump the Most?

  • Dumbocrats

    Votes: 8 25.0%
  • Reptilicans

    Votes: 9 28.1%
  • Broads

    Votes: 6 18.8%
  • Canadians

    Votes: 9 28.1%

  • Total voters
    32

darkbeaver

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Trump should make nice when he gets in office cuz if he don,t a whole lot of creditors will eat the USA. I think that,s his message to the world. The debts have to be paid, softly or one of the other ways. When you,ve been puffed up to dizzying hieghts by the money masters things get out of hand.
 

gopher

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A Man Just Offered to Donate $1 Million if Crooked Trump Releases His Tax Returns


Moishe Mana is a billionaire real estate developer who immigrated to America famously penniless from Israel, and he’s so passionate about America that he wants to pry loose the biggest secret in the 2016 Presidential election: what’s inside Republican Donald Trump’s tax return. Mana is a major landowner in Miami’s trendy Wynwood Arts District and doesn’t believe Trump’s hype about his charitable deeds, so he decided that he would help America solve a mystery, and any charity of the Republican candidate’s choosing will benefit too:

“I came here as a dishwasher,” Mana says though his thick Israeli accent. “America, for me, this is the best-ever country that the human race ever created. America has been so good to me.” So, Mana says, to ensure that Trump doesn’t become president and decimate our still-great nation, he’ll donate $1 million to a charity of Trump’s choosing — but only if Trump finally releases his much-debated tax returns.

Donald Trump promised repeatedly to release his tax returns earlier in the campaign, the very same returns that columnist George Will believes could prove a link between the Republican nominee and Russia. But instead, today the “strong man” Trump dispatched his “top aide” Paul Manafort, the man famous for appearing all over the Panama Papers like a rash, and doing the dirty work of oligarchs in Ukraine to the press to break his promise, to release tax returns on his behalf.

The Republican presidential nominee took advantage of his free time Miami today, to shamefully and very publicly ask Vladimir Putin to hack the State Department and Democrat Hillary Clinton. Even Republican VP nominee Mike Pence understood the horror and the gravity of the situation where state-sponsored foreign hackers are attacking our civic institutions, and said that there should be punishment for whomever is caught in the DNC hack or any other digital break-ins. But not Trump, leading the The Daily Beast to speak with a (not even slightly liberal) national security lawyer who said that Trump’s plea to Mother Russia, if fulfilled or leading to action could be considered a felony act of criminal incitement:

“It’s probably the most egregiously stupid thing I’ve ever heard a party nominee say ever,” said Bradley Moss, a lawyer specializing in national security law. Moss believes that there’s a legal case to charge Trump for his comments, because he was calling for Russia to take “imminent lawless action,” which is speech not covered by the First Amendment.

Until Trump’s taxes are released, nobody will ever believe that he’s not a vassal of Vladimir Putin after today’s performance, but Moishe Mana has firm beliefs about who he’s voting for no matter if he ever reads a single page of the Republican’s tax documents in this year’s election: Hillary Clinton. The stakes are too high, and of the choices at hand that the immigrant turned billionaire who fears Trump’s brand of fascism and his support for white supremacy said that he’d double down on trying to convince the failed casino owner turned reality TV star turned Republican presidential candidate to turn over his tax returns:
“But America,” says Moises Mana, “is worth more than a million dollars for me. If he says $2 million, I’ll go $2 million.”




A Man Just Offered to Donate $1 Million if Crooked Trump Releases His Tax Returns








What are you hiding, tRUMPy?
 

gopher

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Re: Trump sides with Russia over Crimea

Putin realy wants Trump to become President! Why do you think that is?



Trump has said that aside from continued intervention in the ME, the US is to stay out of all other foreign conflicts. That means the US is to stay out of the Russia-Ukraine, Russia-Georgia, and other border conflicts so that Russia can spread its tentacles of imperialism like it has since the days of Ivan the Terrible and when it invaded Trans-Caucasia in the 1850s. Putin, like all other Rusofiles, likes that prospect.
 

darkbeaver

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Re: Trump sides with Russia over Crimea

Trump has said that aside from continued intervention in the ME, the US is to stay out of all other foreign conflicts. That means the US is to stay out of the Russia-Ukraine, Russia-Georgia, and other border conflicts so that Russia can spread its tentacles of imperialism like it has since the days of Ivan the Terrible and when it invaded Trans-Caucasia in the 1850s. Putin, like all other Rusofiles, likes that prospect.

Eh no, there will be a new order of another kind or there will be no order of any kind. The Russians have already had thier taste of oblivion.
"Tenacles of oblivion" under the promice of democracy, who rule there gopher? The fall to come, clearly unavoidable, 19 trillions to none, what will transpire I wonder, not long though, whem the music stops who,s without a chair? Clearly the mathmatical eventuality is upon us. The USA can;t afford not to stay out if it want;s to remain the USA, it,s exhausted and cannot sustain a war but for a couple of weeks maybe. They should settle for a number greater than one and hang their upper class . If that dosn,t solve the problem hang the journalists, clergy, sooner or later the wash will come clean. Just do it in your own back yard leave us out of it, you built it you fix it.
I,m interested in chickens and firewood and war with the USA, the reason I can,t get to florida for the winter cuz I got this record, and I will get to Florida some day.
 
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10larry

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Re: Trump sides with Russia over Crimea

Harper would be so proud.


Trump may consider recognition of Crimea as part of Russia

NEW YORK, July 27. /TASS/. If elected U.S. president, Donald Trump, the Republican Party's candidate, intends to consider issues on recognition of Crimea as a Russian region and on removal of sanctions imposed on Russia over the Ukraine crisis, Trump told a news conference in Florida.

Answering a reporter's question of he would recognize Crimea as part of Russia and if he would consider a possibility of lifting sanctions from Russia in case he won the presidential race, Trump said that they would consider the issues but added no more details.

Mo

TASS: World - Trump may consider recognition of Crimea as part of Russia

Trump is 100% correct and of course the kremlin denies any evesdropping, what self respecting snoop ever owns up.
What invasion by russia? They've had military in crimea for years manning their approved naval base. The jocular bit is the west rejects democratic stuff like referendums in a limp bid to justify their keiv regime change strategy. That putin was onto their strategy to rob him of his fresh water naval port really, really bugs the cia, they hate being out foxed.
Americanos wanted to get in on mid east malcontent action to feed their ravenous military complex so guys like hussein and gadaffi had to go, if anyone knows of a valid reason for invasion of iraq or libya please post it. With no hussein or gadaffi to keep a lid on fuedal clans they took full advantage birthing isil so now the u.s. military complex has a task but is failing to even come close to taming iraq or libya, hussein and gadaffi knew how... cia not so much.
Syria was on the brink of becoming another nato disaster til putin suggested dialoge trumps bombs, he got part of his suggestion, they're still bombing but talking.
 

darkbeaver

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Re: Trump sides with Russia over Crimea

They tried to save the world but the world let them down.

They have not even conquered this continent yet. The Chinese laugh the Russians laugh, the Syrian, stay at home and work your own fields or else. The rest of the planet agrees.

Americans have suffered enough, give them a break the rest of us get a break. Remember we have to save this planet from us.

Co2 is killing me, I,ve been coughing all day.

When will they do something about it?
 

Walter

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Jan 28, 2007
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A Man Just Offered to Donate $1 Million if Crooked Trump Releases His Tax Returns


Moishe Mana is a billionaire real estate developer who immigrated to America famously penniless from Israel, and he’s so passionate about America that he wants to pry loose the biggest secret in the 2016 Presidential election: what’s inside Republican Donald Trump’s tax return. Mana is a major landowner in Miami’s trendy Wynwood Arts District and doesn’t believe Trump’s hype about his charitable deeds, so he decided that he would help America solve a mystery, and any charity of the Republican candidate’s choosing will benefit too:

“I came here as a dishwasher,” Mana says though his thick Israeli accent. “America, for me, this is the best-ever country that the human race ever created. America has been so good to me.” So, Mana says, to ensure that Trump doesn’t become president and decimate our still-great nation, he’ll donate $1 million to a charity of Trump’s choosing — but only if Trump finally releases his much-debated tax returns.

Donald Trump promised repeatedly to release his tax returns earlier in the campaign, the very same returns that columnist George Will believes could prove a link between the Republican nominee and Russia. But instead, today the “strong man” Trump dispatched his “top aide” Paul Manafort, the man famous for appearing all over the Panama Papers like a rash, and doing the dirty work of oligarchs in Ukraine to the press to break his promise, to release tax returns on his behalf.

The Republican presidential nominee took advantage of his free time Miami today, to shamefully and very publicly ask Vladimir Putin to hack the State Department and Democrat Hillary Clinton. Even Republican VP nominee Mike Pence understood the horror and the gravity of the situation where state-sponsored foreign hackers are attacking our civic institutions, and said that there should be punishment for whomever is caught in the DNC hack or any other digital break-ins. But not Trump, leading the The Daily Beast to speak with a (not even slightly liberal) national security lawyer who said that Trump’s plea to Mother Russia, if fulfilled or leading to action could be considered a felony act of criminal incitement:

“It’s probably the most egregiously stupid thing I’ve ever heard a party nominee say ever,” said Bradley Moss, a lawyer specializing in national security law. Moss believes that there’s a legal case to charge Trump for his comments, because he was calling for Russia to take “imminent lawless action,” which is speech not covered by the First Amendment.

Until Trump’s taxes are released, nobody will ever believe that he’s not a vassal of Vladimir Putin after today’s performance, but Moishe Mana has firm beliefs about who he’s voting for no matter if he ever reads a single page of the Republican’s tax documents in this year’s election: Hillary Clinton. The stakes are too high, and of the choices at hand that the immigrant turned billionaire who fears Trump’s brand of fascism and his support for white supremacy said that he’d double down on trying to convince the failed casino owner turned reality TV star turned Republican presidential candidate to turn over his tax returns:
“But America,” says Moises Mana, “is worth more than a million dollars for me. If he says $2 million, I’ll go $2 million.”




A Man Just Offered to Donate $1 Million if Crooked Trump Releases His Tax Returns








What are you hiding, tRUMPy?
When BHO releases his school records.
 

davesmom

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Re: Trump sides with Russia over Crimea

It shouldn't be any secret that Russia spies on the U.S. So does every other country. U.S. spies on every other country too so get over it!
 

Colpy

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Re: Trump sides with Russia over Crimea

Harper would be so proud.


Trump may consider recognition of Crimea as part of Russia

NEW YORK, July 27. /TASS/. If elected U.S. president, Donald Trump, the Republican Party's candidate, intends to consider issues on recognition of Crimea as a Russian region and on removal of sanctions imposed on Russia over the Ukraine crisis, Trump told a news conference in Florida.

Answering a reporter's question of he would recognize Crimea as part of Russia and if he would consider a possibility of lifting sanctions from Russia in case he won the presidential race, Trump said that they would consider the issues but added no more details.

Mo

TASS: World - Trump may consider recognition of Crimea as part of Russia

WTF are you talking about, you lunatic?

Harper was first and foremost among western leaders in his principled support of Ukraine......something our idiot pansy PM is backing away from to make nice with Putin, as no Trudeau ever met a murdering dictator they didn't love....Mao, Fidel, Putin......

Sure you didn't mean "Trudeau would be so proud"?
 

coldstream

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Oct 19, 2005
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Re: Trump sides with Russia over Crimea

Putin is a nationalist.. Trump is a nationalist...

Putin is a tyrant.. and a murderer.. Trump is a democrat, a populist and champions moral law.
 

Curious Cdn

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Re: Trump sides with Russia over Crimea

Trump is 100% correct and of course the kremlin denies any evesdropping, what self respecting snoop ever owns up.
What invasion by russia? They've had military in crimea for years manning their approved naval base. The jocular bit is the west rejects democratic stuff like referendums in a limp bid to justify their keiv regime change strategy. That putin was onto their strategy to rob him of his fresh water naval port really, really bugs the cia, they hate being out foxed.
Americanos wanted to get in on mid east malcontent action to feed their ravenous military complex so guys like hussein and gadaffi had to go, if anyone knows of a valid reason for invasion of iraq or libya please post it. With no hussein or gadaffi to keep a lid on fuedal clans they took full advantage birthing isil so now the u.s. military complex has a task but is failing to even come close to taming iraq or libya, hussein and gadaffi knew how... cia not so much.
Syria was on the brink of becoming another nato disaster til putin suggested dialoge trumps bombs, he got part of his suggestion, they're still bombing but talking.

Can't agree more. Poor Russia has been denied a part of their lawful territory. There are other parts which they also claim that should be returned to Russia and as soon as possible, too. Latvia, Estonia, Lithuania, Finland, Poland, the Aleutian Islands, Ellesmere Island, Mongolia, Belorus, ... all of these border places that the Russians have been robbed of over the years that need to be given back, right away. Only a strong leader like Donald Trump can put all that right. Clinton would just "threaten Russia woth nukes", or some other softy, libtard thing but a great business man like Trump would negotiate a proper deal with Putin and hand Russia back their stolen property.

Cheers, 10larry . It's good to see another poster on this forum that is on the right side of history. Putin/Trump ... together we all march forward.
 

MHz

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Re: Trump sides with Russia over Crimea

That comment to Putin will be what he will be remembered for, being and as*hole would be the summation.
 

gopher

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Re: Trump sides with Russia over Crimea

darkbeaver; said:
Eh no, there will be a new order of another kind or there will be no order of any kind. The Russians have already had thier taste of oblivion.
"Tenacles of oblivion" under the promice of democracy, who rule there gopher? The fall to come, clearly unavoidable, 19 trillions to none, what will transpire I wonder, not long though, whem the music stops who,s without a chair? Clearly the mathmatical eventuality is upon us. The USA can;t afford not to stay out if it want;s to remain the USA, it,s exhausted and cannot sustain a war but for a couple of weeks maybe. They should settle for a number greater than one and hang their upper class . If that dosn,t solve the problem hang the journalists, clergy, sooner or later the wash will come clean. Just do it in your own back yard leave us out of it, you built it you fix it.
I,m interested in chickens and firewood and war with the USA, the reason I can,t get to florida for the winter cuz I got this record, and I will get to Florida some day.





Setting all jabberwocky aside, the USA has no goddamn business in overseas affairs. That includes the ME whether Chump and his fan boys like it or not.
 

10larry

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Re: Trump sides with Russia over Crimea

That comment to Putin will be what he will be remembered for, being and as*hole would be the summation.
Hafta remember the u.s. invested heavy duty political capital in kiev, a long list of luminaries like mccain, biden, nuland, kerry, etc with vast experience in destabilizing regimes donated their talents to the cause.
If the comment about recognizing crimea as russias' is meant it more accurately places trump opposite the as_holes that think crimea and eastern ukraine have no russian heritage. Acknowledging that fact of course does not conform to nato druthers and undermines the efforts of biden & co. Because russians in crimea voted to stay with russia barac was forced to declare the voice of the people undemocratic even as he deploys drones to promote democracy in other lands. As_hole is an appropiate term to apply in this situation but affixing it to the most deserving appears problematic.
 

mentalfloss

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Why won't Donald Trump release his tax returns?

Crooked Donald


Why won't Donald Trump release his tax returns?

In his speech Wednesday at the Democratic National Convention, vice presidential candidate and everyone's favorite dad Tim Kaine repeatedly dinged Republican nominee Donald Trump for his reliance on the phrase "believe me," when, in fact, he argued, absolutely no one should believe him. "It's gonna be great – believe me!" Kaine said to the convention crowd, imitating Trump to laughs and cheers. "We're gonna build a wall and make Mexico pay for it – believe me! There's nothing suspicious in my tax returns – believe me!"

That last one evoked the loudest whoops and applause by far. Kaine stayed with it: "By the way, does anyone here believe that Donald Trump's been paying his fair share of taxes? Do you believe he ought to release those tax returns like every other presidential candidate in modern history? Of course he should. Donald, what are you hiding?"

It's a fair question. Since the 1970s, presidential candidates have routinely released their tax returns. "This is something that was partly a reaction to Watergate and Richard Nixon, and the growing sense that we want transparency, that we want to know if our presidents are playing by the same rules as other Americans," says Matt Dallek, assistant professor of Political Management in the Graduate School of Political Management at George Washington University. While it's not required by law, it is an expected show of transparency, much like candidates releasing their health records. (For what it's worth, Trump's doctor said the candidate would be "the healthiest individual ever elected to the presidency.") "This has become standard operating procedure," says Dallek.

But Trump isn't releasing his tax returns, at least not now and likely not before the election. His campaign manager Paul Manafort said as much Wednesday, telling CBS News, "Mr. Trump has said that his taxes are under audit and he will not be releasing them." The IRS, however – the federal agency that is conducting Trump's audit – has already said the audit is no roadblock: While the agency can't discuss Trump's tax returns, the candidate himself is free to go for it. "Nothing prevents individuals from sharing their own tax information," the IRS told the Huffington Post. There's even political precedent for it: Richard Nixon released his tax returns while under audit in 1973, though he wasn't running for office at the time.

What's more, his account of the audit itself only raises more questions. Trump claims to have been audited every year for the past 12 years, which according to IRS Commissioner John Koskinen, would be "rare." If no issues occurred with the last audit, said Koskinen, “it’s a number of years – two or three at least – before you hear from us again.” And some people like Stuart Stevens, who was a key strategist on Mitt Romney's 2012 campaign, question whether the audit is happening at all:

In May, Trump said he would make his returns public once the audit is over, but his defensive tone suggests otherwise (as does his history of making and then promptly walking back many statements throughout his campaign). When asked if the American public had a right to see his tax returns, he said, "I don't think they do," telling ABC's George Stephanopoulos his tax rate was "none of your business." Harumph!

But for someone who loves winning – and winning bigly – it seems not just silly but complete self-sabotage to pass up such an easy victory. And Trump should know: He repeatedly raised questions about President Barack Obama's birthplace; when the president released his birth certificate in April 2011, Trump was confirmed as a crank and famously seethed under Obama's ridicule over it at the White House Correspondents Dinner. If there is nothing to hide, Trump wins. In fact, he wins-wins-wins.

For one, he could cut off a strong line of attack by Democrats. Hillary Clinton has already released her tax returns, going back to 1977. She and her camp now hold the advantage and can continue haranguing Trump for his lack of transparency, painting him as a crook and a liar, while Trump has no real counterattack. Not releasing the returns, says Dallek, "makes it less easy for [Trump] to attack Hillary Clinton for taking money from Goldman Sachs," a charge he's used to depict Clinton as crooked and beholden to Wall Street. If he releases his returns, Trump could better position himself to go on offense.

Why Won't Donald Trump Release His Tax Returns? | US News Opinion
 

davesmom

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Re: Why won't Donald Trump release his tax returns?

Why should he release his tax returns? Why should any candidate? It's a dumb thing to dwell on.
Most candidates tax returns would be so complicated that nobody would understand them anyway and they would have so many loopholes available to them that it would bring all of them into a lower tax rate than the average joe.
They say all other candidates have released their tax returns. Well, maybe so, but I haven't heard it made public what rate of tax the Clintons or anybody else has paid.
So what does it matter. Only the IRA needs to know or has the right to know about personal income taxes. It's nobody else's business; I don't care who they are!
 

Walter

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Re: Why won't Donald Trump release his tax returns?

He'll release them when BHO releases his school records.