The next american president

wallyj

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McCain also has said that the greatest threat to world peace is ISLAM. The man knows what he talks about and is not one to sugarcoat reality. Also,for reasons that I won't go into,President McCain sounds so right. i wonder how long it will be until the leftards that regularly roam through these pages corrupt that to "McBush" and think they are so clever,and toss it out when they are losing their 'debates'.
 

talloola

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Today McCain reminded Americans of Canada's help and sacrifices in Afghanistan, and took Obama and Clinton to task for vowing to "re-negotiate" NAFTA.........

In other words, it is VERY MUCH in Canada's self-interest to see McCain, NOT the Democrats, in the White House.

As well, an article in the G&M accuses the media of being extremely soft on Obama (and McCain), ignoring Obama's close connections with a high pofile Chicago fraud artist......

McCain is de man.

And of course, the complete failure of the bush administration re: Iraq war, and
the great state of the U.S. economy right now, is all the more reason to bring the
republicans back in so they can bury the u.s. people completely. They are spending
billions on a failed dicision they made to go into Iraq, and breaking the bank for their
citizens, what a joke.
McCain is a soldier to the end, and he can't wait to do more soldiering, so diplomacy
and common sense will never prevail.
Why do you think there have been 'record' crowds following the democrats, do you think the
people are completely stupid, and are going to sit pat for the republicans, they are fed up and worried.
 

Curiosity

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I believe he's had a few procedures done on his face, and at present it looks a little
better, but one side has quite a 'bulge' on lower cheek area. ( left side of his face)
sort of like a chipmunk with a load of nuts.

Talloola if you are talking about McCain - he had skin cancer - and those are the scars from removal of the tissue on his face and forehead. The bulge would be where they cut through nerves and muscle holding the face together -
 

talloola

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Talloola if you are talking about McCain - he had skin cancer - and those are the scars from removal of the tissue on his face and forehead. The bulge would be where they cut through nerves and muscle holding the face together -

Yes, someone else told me that many posts ago, hadn't realized that fact.
 

Colpy

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And of course, the complete failure of the bush administration re: Iraq war, and
the great state of the U.S. economy right now, is all the more reason to bring the
republicans back in so they can bury the u.s. people completely. They are spending
billions on a failed dicision they made to go into Iraq, and breaking the bank for their
citizens, what a joke.
McCain is a soldier to the end, and he can't wait to do more soldiering, so diplomacy
and common sense will never prevail.
Why do you think there have been 'record' crowds following the democrats, do you think the
people are completely stupid, and are going to sit pat for the republicans, they are fed up and worried.

American deficit spending is insane.

The USA is IN Iraq, it has to stabilize that country before it leaves. What would be criminal is to abandon it now. McCain, against practically everyone else, supported the "surge".....and it worked.

Diplomacy and common sense doesn't work when you are dealing with meglomaniacs or religious fanatics seeking martyrdom....that simple. What works is putting them in a shallow grave.


Polls in the USA have shown McCain beating EITHER Clinton or Obama....................don't count him out yet, although the Obama "surge" :) is worrying..........

McCain the man.
 

darkbeaver

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American deficit spending is insane.

The USA is IN Iraq, it has to stabilize that country before it leaves. What would be criminal is to abandon it now. McCain, against practically everyone else, supported the "surge".....and it worked.

Diplomacy and common sense doesn't work when you are dealing with meglomaniacs or religious fanatics seeking martyrdom....that simple. What works is putting them in a shallow grave.


Polls in the USA have shown McCain beating EITHER Clinton or Obama....................don't count him out yet, although the Obama "surge" :) is worrying..........

McCain the man.

Ya don't count him out. It dosn't matter who votes it only matters who counts the votes. Stalin google (diebold) google (election irregularitys) on second thought use yahoo
Colpy you're full of duck poop.
 

MikeyDB

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Awash in a world of fanaticism.

Colpy: “Diplomacy and common sense doesn't work when you are dealing with meglomaniacs or religious fanatics seeking martyrdom....that simple. What works is putting them in a shallow grave.”

If you scroll through the ebb and flow of Canadian Content and of course you command the subtly of mind to appreciate various sub-currents permeating the thrust and parry of virtual swordsmanship these pages represent, several themes recur that inform consciousness through and beyond the oft-times heated rhetoric and biased joust.

An encouraged conclusion easily reached through reinforced skepticism branded on as “conspiracy theory” and only thinly camouflaged disdain for any resistance to the “current wisdom” of the “status quo”…. An affirmation that while yes mistakes have been made and yes (grudgingly) mistakes will continue to be made, the essence, the raison d’ etre undergirding this willingness to “damn the torpedoes” rises from the ashes of a burning empire time and time again.

The Paladins of Economic Empire, minor players whose usefulness to this cause célèbre, this grand purpose, this perpetual spinning cage where “rat race” takes on a further and more accurate characterization than ever intended….

The magnitude of the dynamic itself is the insurmountable hurdle that shields those most responsible for the many and various plagues that besmirch and tarnish the idealized golden promise of tired hollow promises of the American Dream and the “True North Strong and Free”….

From Conrad Black to Kenneth Lay, from Alan Eagleson to O.J. Simpson, from Ben Johnson and Roger Clemens to Elvis Presley ….

These fantasies, these diaphanous shreds of spoiled dreams imbued with the terminal fanaticism of idealized existence become the symbols of everything that’s wrong with a culture that chooses to define itself through mastery of image, their idol the dollar, their morality the fleeting baselessness of wealth and fame.

These carpetbaggers brought millions to their feet, cheered as heroes and models of virtue, ambition given fire, triumphant champions of business, symbols and personifications of law…. athletic prowess…. Entertainers gyrating to the pulses of love and lust that fuel the engines of a social organizing principle that raises the nobility of individual freedom and personal greatness to the lofty heights as man’s most noble virtue.

Greed is a fanaticism and although unsavory and ill suited as common self-acknowledgement among our spoiled and exclusively self-interested societies, we prefer to point to other forms of fanaticism as the harbinger of doom and symptom of sickness….

But the consequences of our conditional perspectives and our selective morality will not evaporate like the dew….

Our unpreparedness to acknowledge this thrum of fanaticism that dictates that greed is good, that prejudice and fear are evolutionary benchmarks, somehow inherent in our nature and inexorably bound to what it is to be a human being…this fanaticism will not be satisfied until enough feel the lash and suffer for their voluntary ignorance.

The fanaticism of appearance for appearance sake.
 

Blackleaf

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It's funny all this "oohing and aahing" in America over the prospect of having a female Head of State.

Britain got its first female Head of State way back in 1558 and has got a female Head of State now, which we've had since 1952.

And we've had a female Head of Government.

For some countries, it's already "been there and done that."
 

Avro

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It's funny all this "oohing and aahing" in America over the prospect of having a female Head of State.

Britain got its first female Head of State way back in 1558 and has got a female Head of State now, which we've had since 1952.

And we've had a female Head of Government.

For some countries, it's already "been there and done that."

Our head of state has no power, a female American persident would arguably be the most powerful female to ever lead the free world.

......I think that means something.
 

Walter

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Maybe Florida will count for him this time.

Senior Democrats mull Al Gore's nomination
By Tim Shipman in Washington
Last Updated: 2:23am BST 30/03/2008

Plans for Al Gore to take the Democratic presidential nomination as the saviour of a bitterly divided party are being actively discussed by senior figures and aides to the former vice-president.
The bloody civil war between Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama has left many Democrats convinced that neither can deliver a knockout blow to the other and that both have been so damaged that they risk losing November's election to the Republican nominee, John McCain.
Former Gore aides now believe he could emerge as a compromise candidate acceptable to both camps at the party's convention in Denver during the last week of August.
Two former Gore campaign officials have told The Sunday Telegraph that a scenario first mapped out by members of Mr Gore's inner circle last May now has a sporting chance of coming true.
Mr Gore, who was Bill Clinton's vice-president and has since won a Nobel Peace Prize and an Oscar for his work on green issues, remains an influential figure eight years after he beat George W Bush in the popular vote but lost the White House after the Florida recount fiasco.
The opening has emerged because opinion polls show Mr McCain stretching his lead over both Mr Obama and Mrs Clinton, whose campaigns are engaged in a daily cycle of attacks, character assassination and mutual recriminations on religion, race and the economy.
Between a quarter and a third of Obama and Clinton supporters say that they would not now vote for the other in November.
The prospect of a new Gore candidacy was raised last week in Time magazine by Joe Klein, the doyen of American political writers, and discussed on the main cable news networks, CNN, Fox and MSNBC.
If neither Mr Obama nor Mrs Clinton has the 2,025 delegates needed to win the nomination, and if both appear unable to beat Mr McCain, under one scenario a group of about 100 party elders - the "super-delegates" - could sit out the first ballot in Denver, preventing either candidate winning outright, and then offer Mr Gore the nomination for the good of the party.
Tim Mahoney, a Democrat congressman from Florida, said last week: "If it goes into the convention, don't be surprised if someone different is at the top of the ticket." This suggests the party would accept a Gore-Clinton or a Gore-Obama pairing.
Following a brief flurry of speculation that he might jump into the race last year, Mr Gore claimed he had "fallen out of love" with politics, but he has pointedly refused to rule out another tilt at the White House and said that the only job in public life that interests him is the presidency.
 

Colpy

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Maybe Florida will count for him this time.

Senior Democrats mull Al Gore's nomination
By Tim Shipman in Washington
Last Updated: 2:23am BST 30/03/2008

Plans for Al Gore to take the Democratic presidential nomination as the saviour of a bitterly divided party are being actively discussed by senior figures and aides to the former vice-president.
The bloody civil war between Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama has left many Democrats convinced that neither can deliver a knockout blow to the other and that both have been so damaged that they risk losing November's election to the Republican nominee, John McCain.
Former Gore aides now believe he could emerge as a compromise candidate acceptable to both camps at the party's convention in Denver during the last week of August.
Two former Gore campaign officials have told The Sunday Telegraph that a scenario first mapped out by members of Mr Gore's inner circle last May now has a sporting chance of coming true.
Mr Gore, who was Bill Clinton's vice-president and has since won a Nobel Peace Prize and an Oscar for his work on green issues, remains an influential figure eight years after he beat George W Bush in the popular vote but lost the White House after the Florida recount fiasco.
The opening has emerged because opinion polls show Mr McCain stretching his lead over both Mr Obama and Mrs Clinton, whose campaigns are engaged in a daily cycle of attacks, character assassination and mutual recriminations on religion, race and the economy.
Between a quarter and a third of Obama and Clinton supporters say that they would not now vote for the other in November.
The prospect of a new Gore candidacy was raised last week in Time magazine by Joe Klein, the doyen of American political writers, and discussed on the main cable news networks, CNN, Fox and MSNBC.
If neither Mr Obama nor Mrs Clinton has the 2,025 delegates needed to win the nomination, and if both appear unable to beat Mr McCain, under one scenario a group of about 100 party elders - the "super-delegates" - could sit out the first ballot in Denver, preventing either candidate winning outright, and then offer Mr Gore the nomination for the good of the party.
Tim Mahoney, a Democrat congressman from Florida, said last week: "If it goes into the convention, don't be surprised if someone different is at the top of the ticket." This suggests the party would accept a Gore-Clinton or a Gore-Obama pairing.
Following a brief flurry of speculation that he might jump into the race last year, Mr Gore claimed he had "fallen out of love" with politics, but he has pointedly refused to rule out another tilt at the White House and said that the only job in public life that interests him is the presidency.

Al Gore?

suddenly Obama doesn't look quite so bad after all... :)

NOTHING could encourage me to support Clinton.........

But McCain is beginning to look like a sure thing to win the big prize.....Thank God!
 

MikeyDB

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If you mean "Thank God" because the other two lunatics have managed to throw this election away then yeah I can see it....

But MCain isn't the man for the job. And no I don't have any idea who the "right man" for the job might be.

What should be readily apparent to Americans is that for all the talk about the touchy-feely-goodness of the Democratic liberal stance, when it comes to getting in there and grappling with the issues, if you're a Democrat you'll try to talk them to death and when you find you're not very successful you'll blame a Republican.... Of course the same is true in the reverse for many Republican politicians.

McCain isn't the guy because credentials that suggest you're fit for the most powerful seat in world because you suffered at the hands of war just doesn't cut it. When 'national security'...the means whereby the Constitution of the United States has been castrated and a nation taken to war and immersed in debt for decades to come....the focus is instead of a vision of a future with alternative sight, a vision of the future with the same predilection to frustrate democracy. I don't think McCain has the chops when it comes to the economy, doesn't have the chops when it comes to inter-social conflict born out of a willingness to ignore the widening gap between the rich and the poor, and doesn't have the chops when it comes to the facility to put your personal agenda aside when confronted with Russia, Iran, Korea etc. etc. This gentleman is a product of generations of inculcated fear and loathing for particular entities around the world. His vision simply isn't clear nor clean.
Do I have a similar perspective on Obama or Clinton...well, Clinton is old-school politics right down to the S&L scandals and has demonstrated her personal availability to audacious compromise when it came to the other Clinton and Lewinsky...

Obama is long on oratory and rhetoric but short on nuts'n bolts get your hands dirty in the world of reality that exists beyond the ivory towers of academia.

It's a durn mess but McCain ain't the guy......
 

Walter

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McCain would be more palatable if he chooses his running mate well. Condoleeza comes to mind.
 

talloola

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The dems will come to a conclusion when they come to a conclusion, with a winner. It
doesn't matter what anyone else says, they are all media and republicans anyway, so any
story is a story.


After pennsylvania, there will be a more clear picture of where the numbers are going, so
just wait till that happens and see.
It is a democratic system, so wait till the people vote and see.

Don't know what will happen to michigan and florida, cause now that clintons are behind
they want them back in the game, but didn't at the beginning, when they thought it would be a cakewalk for them. Maybe they will just split the delegates between them for
those states, that sounds fair to me.

If you like the iraq war, then vote for McCain, he will continue it for 100 years, he said
they have to stay their till they have a victory. He has such a pea brain he doesn't realize
there will never be a winner, as it will have to be a politcal settlement of some kind,
never a military one.

If you don't like the iraq war, and want it over, then vote for a democrat.
If you want a government run health care system, vote for a democrat, if you like the
health care system in place now, vote for a republican.

It's all pretty simple, not rocket science at all.
 

MikeyDB

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Connie...Supertanker Rice is a remarkable individual. That blazing smile and refined composure in the middle of the most atrocious government that's been foisted on Americans since Richard Nixon and Ronald Reagan. Does she have what it takes to VP the Whitehouse? She may but my personal opinion is that she can't be trusted any more than a Bush or a Rumsfeld or a Powel or ...well anyone from the current American cancer of government.
 

talloola

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Connie...Supertanker Rice is a remarkable individual. That blazing smile and refined composure in the middle of the most atrocious government that's been foisted on Americans since Richard Nixon and Ronald Reagan. Does she have what it takes to VP the Whitehouse? She may but my personal opinion is that she can't be trusted any more than a Bush or a Rumsfeld or a Powel or ...well anyone from the current American cancer of government.

I agree, she is really something, watched a biography about her life, very impressive.
I wonder if she will ever be commissioner of the nfl, that is what she really wants to do,
she actually said that during interview. She is an expert on football, and an accomplished
pianist.
 

EagleSmack

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McCaine is going to win it all. For a little while there I thought Obama would be able to pull it off but now that Clinton is slashing him left and right and has sworn to do so until July there will be too much damage.

Republicans for at least four more years.