The New USA: A Triumph of Leftism

[mentalfloss]

Good lord Political Nick is dense.

Every economist has already confirmed that Trump will be running up the debt.

He's supposed to build a $3 Trillion wall lol

He's not a fiscal conservative even by your patched in definition because he's not spending on anything that will help GDP growth.

 

[petros]

He's not a fiscal conservative even by your patched in definition because he's not spending on anything that will help GDP growth.

Like spending on Western Ports and infrastructure for Asian trade?

 

[Danbones]

You made no point
tool

the point?
lol

you ain't looking
what we have here is another soros anti democratic globalist dictatorship color revolution complete with NAZI jew holocauster George Soros organization sponsered protestors
Hitler Hitlery Soros ....
this also means YOU MF - LEFT Turnips all

 

[mentalfloss]

Control yourself lol

 

[PoliticalNick]

Good lord Political Nick is dense.

Every economist has already confirmed that Trump will be running up the debt.

He's supposed to build a $3 Trillion wall lol

He's not a fiscal conservative even by your patched in definition because he's not spending on anything that will help GDP growth.

The debt would increase if he spends nothing at all. The interest on the debt alone is greater than all the combined tax revenue for the entire country.

Lower taxes and new infrastructure projects do more to increase GDP than anything else. It isn't just the project itself but the spin-off job creation is massive throughout the supply and logistics chain.

I understand these concepts are difficult for a mental midget like yourself who believes you can create prosperity by increasing taxation to a point of bankrupting the working class so I won't go further. Suffice to say you have no idea of macro-economics or economics at any level. My teenagers can think circles around you when it comes to the topic....well any topic really.

 

[Tecumsehsbones]

Are we arguing about the seating arrangement in the 1798 French Assembly again?

 

[Danbones]

Control yourself lol

lol
the revisionist lefty wrong again

 

[tay]

But the majority of Trump’s program was a classic leftist populist program. He was a fierce and trenchant protectionist. He excoriates free trade and especially free trade agreements. This is, comprehensively, a left-wing position. It privileges the position of the state above the workings of the market.

The irony of Trump’s hatred of the Trans-Pacific Partnership, which is now presumably dead, is that it would have been of enormous benefit to the US. Overall, the US has low protectionist barriers. A number of its trade partners in Asia have much more substantial protectionist barriers.

The TPP would have vastly reduced the trade barriers US exporters of goods and services would have faced.

The Left, despite its notional internationalism, typically supports national protectionism strongly.

Now both the Republicans and the Democrats are protectionist parties.

US election: a triumph of left-wing populism | The Australian

The writer is missing some key points.- Trump is not against 'Trade Deals' per se. He just wants to make sure America is the winner of any benefits of those deals. He has even said he would re-negotiate NAFTA to make sure America is the net gainer.

And if the 'left' and I will assume he means the neo-liberal Dem/Clinton team is so protectionist than why did it wait until the end for Hillary and her VP Kaine to announce they no longer supported the TPP? Why was Obama still pushing for the TPP until the election was over?

Some smart, insightful person on Trumps campaign team saw the surge of support Bernie was getting early on with his plan and they wisely adopted aspects of it because they knew 'Free Trades' and particularly NAFTA was a huge issue benefitting Bernie. The fact that Ford and Carrier both shipped production to Mexico during the campaign and the only 2 to bitch about that was Trump and Sanders speaks volumes about Hillary and the Democrats.......

 

[coldstream]

I think the concepts of 'left' and 'right' have been radically redefined by the American election. Left traditionally has represented the interests of labour.. of industry.

But it was hijacked by the Cult of Post Structuralism.. moral relativism, radical individualism.. in the last 5 decades. It has led to carnival of debauchery... in economics and culture.. which was no real reflection of the working family's values.

In this election.. the blue collar worker.. voted overwhelmingly in a populist rebellion.. for Donald Trump.

 

[pgs]

Good lord Political Nick is dense.

Every economist has already confirmed that Trump will be running up the debt.

He's supposed to build a $3 Trillion wall lol

He's not a fiscal conservative even by your patched in definition because he's not spending on anything that will help GDP growth.

Mexico is paying for the wall don't you know ? P.S. he hasn't spent a cent yet .

 

[PoliticalNick]

I think the concepts of 'left' and 'right' have been radically redefined by the American election. Left traditionally has represented the interests of labour.. of industry.

But it was hijacked by the Cult of Post Structuralism.. moral relativism, radical individualism.. in the last 5 decades. It has led to carnival of debauchery... in economics and culture.. which was no real reflection of the working family's values.

In this election.. the blue collar worker.. voted overwhelmingly in a populist rebellion.. for Donald Trump.

Not the first time such a reversal of party identity has happened. When Lincoln formed the GOP is was a party to represent the middle-class worker which in recent history has been 'democrat' territory until the Clintons took over and made it an elitist party to rule the masses instead of represent their needs and that is also why she lost...rule vs represent.

The same thing happened to Harper and the Alberta Conservatives and the same thing will happen to Trudeau and Notley and others in the future. As soon as the leader or party stops representing the will of the electorate and starts ruling over the masses like a monarch they are on their way out the door within a few years.

 

[mentalfloss]

lol
the revisionist lefty wrong again

Leftism is not liberalism by the way lol

 

[Locutus]

Every economist

Lol

source there cuck?

 

[Cannuck]

You're an uninformed idiot. Shillary would have run up the national debt faster than Obama even without 2 useless, unwinnable wars.

You keep telling yourself that sparky.

 

[bobnoorduyn]

Leftism is not liberalism by the way lol

What do you consider liberalism to be?

Oh, and what would you consider as leftism?

 

[Curious Cdn]

Small "l" liberalism used to refer to laissez faire, which should appeal to "new conservatism", really. The term has been perverted into meaning Socialist, down in the Exited States of Trite Sound Bytes. This usage is realatively new over the last few decades and it means something almost opposite to the original one.

 

[bobnoorduyn]

Small "l" liberalism used to refer to laissez faire, which should appeal to "new conservatism", really. The term has been perverted into meaning Socialist, down in the Exited States of Trite Sound Bytes. This usage is realatively new over the last few decades and it means something almost opposite to the original one.

I know how terms have been bastardized and labels used for special interest purposes, but I wanted to know Flossy's definitions.

 

[petros]

Small "l" liberalism used to refer to laissez faire, which should appeal to "new conservatism", really. The term has been perverted into meaning Socialist, down in the Exited States of Trite Sound Bytes. This usage is realatively new over the last few decades and it means something almost opposite to the original one.

In other words Neoliberalism?

 

[Cannuck]

Small "l" liberalism used to refer to laissez faire, which should appeal to "new conservatism", really. The term has been perverted into meaning Socialist, down in the Exited States of Trite Sound Bytes. This usage is realatively new over the last few decades and it means something almost opposite to the original one.

It makes winning a debate really easy if you just change the meanings of words. Somehow, when Justin tells us he'll "look after us", he a socialist leftard but when Donald says he'll "look after us" he's an astute conservative business man. It has to do with the Canadian/American translation

 

[petros]

Subsidy...