Colpy, you're visibly upset again chum. here, stare deeply into your guy's eyes and try to calm down
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The Myth of the Good Guy With a Gun
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Which is why we like him as well. Anyone that likes a little ***** can't be all that bad.
Colpy... you already put that link up previously! Yet again... again? :mrgreen: Of course, that's the same "Gary Kleck" of the infamous 1992 "Gunner Bible" study that you've been hyping forevah... the study that has become the pro-gunner mantra. You know, Colpy... the 'Kleck et al" study so refuted by all those other 'big, bad, nasty, agenda-driven, gun control advocating authors"! That study, Colpy... that one!
but, yet again Colpy... your latest post with Kleck again speaking to "Good Guy" DGU... and making new/further claims, that few (if any) on his opposite side accept, simply reinforces one of the key points from that recent U.S. CDC "study to determine what to study", that more funding for more research is required to determine the real extent of U.S. Defensive Gun Use. More research... more independent research, to attempt to bring forward a result that both sides of the debate are willing to accept. You know Colpy... actual new research that has, for intents and purposes, been blocked by the NRA for the last 2 decades. Now Colpy, just why would the NRA be against research into gun-related violence... why so, hey Colpy?
but, yet again Colpy... your latest post with Kleck again speaking to "Good Guy" DGU... and making new/further claims, that few (if any) on his opposite side accept, simply reinforces one of the key points from that recent U.S. CDC "study to determine what to study", that more funding for more research is required to determine the real extent of U.S. Defensive Gun Use. More research... more independent research, to attempt to bring forward a result that both sides of the debate are willing to accept. You know Colpy... actual new research that has, for intents and purposes, been blocked by the NRA for the last 2 decades. Now Colpy, just why would the NRA be against research into gun-related violence... why so, hey Colpy?
In any case, you dimwits having trouble finding that survey... so... so what? You're claiming it doesn't exist... you're claiming "Police One" never undertook and presented the survey (in all it's big-time methodology failures)? I mean, c'mon guys... this is the NRA lying about background checks within that survey... you gotta rally round the NRA; you just gots ta!
oh wait, what's this? You mean the waldo found that survey on the "Police One" website like in 10 secs! And you fackers couldn't? Guys, guys... check the following screen-shot and compare the .pdf file referenced, this file, to the original one from the linked (slate.com) article I put forward. Let me know if they're not the same!!!
oh my... it seems the previously very prolific "DuhSleeper" has gone MIA! Was it something I wrote? Of course, I'm talking about the "Ignore notifications" I no longer see! :mrgreen:
looks like it's all quiet on the member "DuhSleeper" front! Imagine that... the guy huffs & puffs and all of a sudden he goes mute and peels away. Note: when I say "goes mute" I mean I ain't seeing any additional "ignore notifications" :mrgreen: Was it something I wrote?
Looks like the waldo has a fixation for someone he can't read......
And the following post is how low he will go to get the last word...lol
And the following post is how low he will go to get the last word...lol
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Colpy... you already put that link up previously! Yet again... again? :mrgreen: Of course, that's the same "Gary Kleck" of the infamous 1992 "Gunner Bible" study that you've been hyping forevah... the study that has become the pro-gunner mantra. You know, Colpy... the 'Kleck et al" study so refuted by all those other 'big, bad, nasty, agenda-driven, gun control advocating authors"! That study, Colpy... that one!
but, yet again Colpy... your latest post with Kleck again speaking to "Good Guy" DGU... and making new/further claims, that few (if any) on his opposite side accept, simply reinforces one of the key points from that recent U.S. CDC "study to determine what to study", that more funding for more research is required to determine the real extent of U.S. Defensive Gun Use. More research... more independent research, to attempt to bring forward a result that both sides of the debate are willing to accept. You know Colpy... actual new research that has, for intents and purposes, been blocked by the NRA for the last 2 decades. Now Colpy, just why would the NRA be against research into gun-related violence... why so, hey Colpy?
taxi, that U.S. CDC report was originally linked in a prior post by member Colpy... he thought he could leverage it. Strange I don't recall you critiquing it in such a way then.
that's an interesting twist you have there, hey taxi! That report was the first thing the CDC wrote in all of ~2 years following U.S. President Obama's Executive Order re-establishing a funding outlet avenue for U.S. Federal departments/agencies to research/investigate gun-related violence in the U.S.. It seems the CDC is still a lil' "gun shy" over NRA tactics over the last 2 decades... NRA tactics to stifle/prevent any kind of gun-related violence research.
just so you're clear here, taxi... that CDC sponsored study didn't actually do any direct research into gun-related violence; rather, it was intended to be a study to determine what related subjects were most lacking in current data and findings... and what topics were the most contentious between competing sides in the debate surrounding gun-related violence in the U.S.. You'd be all for new and topical research and investigation into U.S. gun-related violence... wouldn't you taxi? Or why wouldn't you?
Ahh...the lying moron Waldo speaks yet again on something he does not understand.....which, of course, includes just about everything.
Kleck da man.
Hundreds of defensive gun uses per day, according to the Clinton-era Dep't of Justice.
Thousands according to Kleck et al.
Either way, Waldo, you lose.
BTW, before you get your love lights all in a furor at the prospect that I am yet again paying attention to you, I just saw what Taxslave quoted.
Sorry, but you are not my type.
You see, I have a fully functioning intellect.
Kleck da man.
Hundreds of defensive gun uses per day, according to the Clinton-era Dep't of Justice.
Thousands according to Kleck et al.
Either way, Waldo, you lose.
BTW, before you get your love lights all in a furor at the prospect that I am yet again paying attention to you, I just saw what Taxslave quoted.
Sorry, but you are not my type.
You see, I have a fully functioning intellect.
Colpy, try some self-analysis on the extent to which you can't write a presumptive countering word without including reams of accompanying insult. Isn't it odd, Colpy... you would be so fixated with an ~25 year-old U.S. study focused on U.S. particulars. U.S. wannabe, hey Colpy! :mrgreen:
we've already cycled through this, several times now. That 1992 Kleck study has no credibility; it's been refuted many times over, principally because it's become a prolific target given how the U.S. gun lobby/advocates use it. From a most limited sampling, with failed methodology, Kleck presumed to extrapolate defensive gun use (DGU)... to as much as 3.6 million times per year in the U.S.. Of course, not only did I provide references to example refuting studies, I also provided a link and graphic extract from an independent site that exhaustively covers all manner of U.S. gun-related use/violence statistics. One of those stats you wouldn't touch was the verifiable stat for DGU linked to actual police reports... imagine that... a verifiable stat you clearly didn't like.
in any case, per the CDC sponsored study (that YOU actually brought forward and attempted to leverage), the DGU issue is one the study pointed out had no consensus between debating sides... that most (if not all) nationally focused data was dated, data was of such high and low extremes, studies were quite limited and most dated with questionable methodologies, data/findings were highly politicized, etc.. Your stated (as quoted above), "Kleck da man" commentary is a fitting and most telling gunner pronouncement on DGU! Of course, the biggest reason the CDC sponsored study findings spoke of dated data/studies and limited/questionable studies is that little research of consequence has occurred in over 2 decades... given the influence of the NRA in stifling/preventing any research into gun-related use/violence in the U.S.. Go figure, hey Colpy!
HOW WOULD THEY KNOW?????
Idiots. Liars.
Idiots. Liars.
Meet Waldo.
Why would you insult a nice dog like that?
So how is it that everything you post is fact and everything anyone else posts has no credibility? Aside from having your head stuck up your azz do you have problems with analytical thinking?
Where on earth do you get your stats?? My lord, there is never even ONE in the three months I have been in Florida that boasts a gun in victims hands has foiled an armed robbery, killing, rape, car hijacking etc. However, there have been two or three of most or sometimes all, by a culprit getting away with such a crime every single day by a gun stolen, or gun that was in the hands of a legal owner originally. Clinton era Dept. of Justice?? Good grief,next it will be the economics dept. of the Truman age.
When will you twig onto the fact that the NRA does NOT WANT good stats......too many decent people would demand a change in the gun control laws.