The Miracles of Christ

AnnaG

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Flat like your brain-waves? lol The Bible never says the earth was flat, it does have it floating though.
Job:26:7:
He stretcheth out the north over the empty place,
and hangeth the earth upon nothing.
One cannot hang anything on nothing. It's obvious that whoever wrote that had no idea what nothing is. Nothing is no matter, no energy, not anything.
More balogna.
 

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How would they collect the microbes? They didn't even have microscopes back then to see the critters with.

Anna- you should know that in those days hggiene wasn't in regular practice so a lot of the big critters would be packing smaller critters without even knowing about it.
 

AnnaG

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God did that part. The men and their wives were in the Ark when the beasts and such began to enter.
Oh, the magic thing again. I suppose this god magicked that all these critters just got along like peas in a pod, too?
lmao
 

El Barto

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try thinking about all those animals in close proximity for 40 days ...
I am sure a tiger would be having a gazelle on the second day atleast.

If god is so perfect then why does he seem to be manipulating things afterwards?.
He couldn't get it on the first try?
 

AnnaG

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Anna- you should know that in those days hggiene wasn't in regular practice so a lot of the big critters would be packing smaller critters without even knowing about it.
A lot of them isn't all of them. And afterwards? Who could check to see if there were a pair of all of them and that there were one of each gender? Who in their right mind would pick up a poison dart frog to check if it was female or male? "Um, 'scuse me, Mr. (or Mrs.) cobra, will you calm down long enough for me to check your gender, please?" And you two, Mr. & Mrs. porcupine". "Mr. badger, quit taking chunks out of my leg!"
Sunday school faerie tales.
 
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The Biblical explanation is that 'all flesh' has a certain list. Flesh was one requirement, if it didn't qualify then it was not meant to be killed off. Notice Genesis leaves out fish? Revelation includes them as you can bake a fish but you cannot drown one. lol
1Co:15:39:
All flesh is not the same flesh:
but there is one kind of flesh of men,
another flesh of beasts,
another of fishes,
and another of birds.

That is who was aboard the Ark. The Ark had windows and they were opened after the rains stopped. Would Dolphins, Whales, and great fishes come to help buoy the Ark up so those on board had a safe voyage? All the while chatting back and forth.
More likely the words were more in line with "Good-bye to ......" repeated steadily by everyone on board, once for each one they knew that had just died in the waters, time-frame the full 40 days. That would be the combined voices of the 8 people and all those others safely aboard. That was the first time God closed the door that resulted in a group being called the remnant. Revelation is the last time that any group will be taken down to a remnant.
If man was the shepherd to the flesh on earth imagine how fond the flesh was towards their maker. The flesh got there the same way they came to Adam to be names, God called and they followed.

Ge:2:19:
And out of the ground the LORD God formed every beast of the field,
and every fowl of the air;
and brought them unto Adam to see what he would call them:
and whatsoever Adam called every living creature,
that was the name thereof.

That's two references to children's books, would you like the parable version as they are quite easy to understand. I will believe you are ready for the more meaty parts if you can tell me just how this verse fits in with the flood that was 21 ft of rain.
De:33:2:
And he said,
The LORD came from Sinai,
and rose up from Seir unto them;
he shined forth from mount Paran,
and he came with ten thousands of saints:
from his right hand went a fiery law for them.
 

Dexter Sinister

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Ge:2:19:
And out of the ground the LORD God formed every beast of the field,
and every fowl of the air;
and brought them unto Adam to see what he would call them:
and whatsoever Adam called every living creature,
that was the name thereof.
Just think for a moment about how long that naming would take. Have you any idea how many kinds of animals and birds there are? It continues to baffle me how anyone intelligent enough to be as articulate as you are can entertain for a second the idea that these tales are literally true.
 

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Dex that was in the time between Adam gaining breath and Eve coming on the scene. Adam didn't need sleep and the parade that God arranged could have been as wide as 20 or more lanes.
Besides that, if Adam was alive early in the day and Eve came along right near the end that would leave about 50,000 years. Genesis 2 has all the plants and later thing being on hold until a man was there. Adam was caretaker of the Garden in Eden, say it was the size and shape of OT Israel. The rest of the world would still be called Eden. God could have left Adam's place dry and abrren until Adam was there. God then allowed the mist to water that land and it blossemed much quicker than the rest of Eden. Mt.St. Helen's made a quick recovery after becoming a barren wasteland only because that area was surrounded by and established forest.

I certainly don't accept a version that is ridiculous, saying the flood was 21 ft of rain that only fell on the land is not taking the written words to an extreme, in this case it is making it a 10 min long subject, start to finish and all the information is right there in those few chapters. That still leaves a few things that can be argued about, like was it two 40 day periods or just two versions of the same 40 days.
Don't kid yourself, it isn't always easy to come up with a reason God can do something and still have it fall under the heading of love. That doesn't mean it can't be done with just one or two verses.
 

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Just think for a moment about how long that naming would take. Have you any idea how many kinds of animals and birds there are? It continues to baffle me how anyone intelligent enough to be as articulate as you are can entertain for a second the idea that these tales are literally true.

just shaking my head, I would like to say unbelievable, but somehow that's not
right, lets see. I have been watching animal documentaries for years and years
and I will never ever know all of the living birds and beasts on this earth.
All of them on an ark, give me a break, it would have been sadly over weight,
would have capsized in no time, animals would have moved all over making balance
impossible, birds would have died of shock, and ark would have to be much much much bigger
than the queen mary, impossible, ridiculous, and laughable.
 

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You will not mock on the Day of Judgment. If you do not repent, you will be thrown into the lake of fire and be destroyed.
 

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We went from Jesus to Noah to Adam 'n' Eve.... Is someone reading their book backward?
When it comes to the Bible reading the ending (Re:21 & 22) is recommended before you spend very much time in the prophecy sections. Somebody even suggested once that (time or something close to it) started to reverse itself at the time of Jesus's death on the cross. The conversation only got to the question of was there a connection to Him having to wake the Apostles up 3 times the night He was arrested and the 3 times they didn't recognize Him after resurrection. Obviously the reference to the coming cays being like the days of Noah before the flood would be referencing days in which fallen angels ruled the roost. Just like in Noah's time they are taken out by a flood. Water to imprison them until the judgment is carried out and the flood of fire to engulf them on an eternal scale. It is more a matter of righting some past wrongs than reading backwards. How wise would it be to read a book meant for the Hebrews in the same direction as the Hebrews would read it?

Yes you do, starting with the premise that the Bible is literally true, correct, and consistent in all particulars.
Most topics the Bible covers has several variations as to just what happened and how. My version of a 40 day rain that makes it way around the whole world is as extensive as it has to be to adhering to what the Bible says. You would have to agree that if the Rockies got that much rain in that amount of time nothing would be left alive as far as those flood-waters could reach. Add in the rain that would fall on the Praieis and it is a clean sweep right into Hudson's Bay. How much would the landscape change, new paths for the rivers would not be 'impossible'.

Maybe if you had the 50,000 years MHz grants to Adam you could do it... :smile:
Pretty slow namer if Adam did spend that much time. The Ge:2 account doesn't seem to be really rushed, what would it take for vegetation to take hold of the area covered by those named rivers? 5 years would seem to be lots for what day 6 accomplished for Adam. That means from 6,000 years ago to 60,000 years ago all the species of land animals we have today were created. No new species of beasts of the field in the last 6,000 years. Now I only have to find out if our sun was glowing about 6 billion yeras ago.