I don't see that as a bad thing. It would just mean that people would be forced to live within their means and stop all this mindless consumerism. Then there might be some hope for the future. If we keep going the way we are, there would be nothing left to survive on in a generation or two.
The left in the US could win big next week
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There's a couple of things wrong with that, Cliffy.
One is that it's completely unnecessary. The US government has successfully balanced its budget and thus virtually stopped the rise in its national debt before, in recent times in fact. It's not like the US debt is a crisis with the country crossing a point of no return or anything like that.
The other thing is that the US needs a robust economy to even make a dent in the national debt. Trying to cut the debt now, and thus causing another recession, will lead to more government spending in the future and thus a debt increase in the long run.
Really, this thinking "National debt is horrible. We need to do something about it right now" doesn't make any sense. And I'm not sure why it's such a popular opinion.
One is that it's completely unnecessary. The US government has successfully balanced its budget and thus virtually stopped the rise in its national debt before, in recent times in fact. It's not like the US debt is a crisis with the country crossing a point of no return or anything like that.
The other thing is that the US needs a robust economy to even make a dent in the national debt. Trying to cut the debt now, and thus causing another recession, will lead to more government spending in the future and thus a debt increase in the long run.
Really, this thinking "National debt is horrible. We need to do something about it right now" doesn't make any sense. And I'm not sure why it's such a popular opinion.
Sir J. Porter is another person who frankly doesn't know what he is talking about.
ANY State has the absolute authority to arrest anyone for violation of a Federal law, and to hand them over to the federal Government.
That is exactly what the law in Arizona would do.
And there is a world of difference between someone that was forced to come into a country by slavery (which Canada once had also), and a person who sneaks across the border and is in the country illegally.
My own father came to the US illegally. Had I known it before he died, I would have turned him in myself (he never paid any child support at all when I was a child, in spite of a court order to do so). It was through him that I am a Canadian citizen however. About the ONLY positive thing he ever did for his first 3 children.
ANY State has the absolute authority to arrest anyone for violation of a Federal law, and to hand them over to the federal Government.
That is exactly what the law in Arizona would do.
And there is a world of difference between someone that was forced to come into a country by slavery (which Canada once had also), and a person who sneaks across the border and is in the country illegally.
My own father came to the US illegally. Had I known it before he died, I would have turned him in myself (he never paid any child support at all when I was a child, in spite of a court order to do so). It was through him that I am a Canadian citizen however. About the ONLY positive thing he ever did for his first 3 children.
What you are saying holds true, for now. However, national debt and deficit is a huge long term problem, and something must be done about it as soon as the economy recovers. Unfortunately, I don't think either party has the will to do anything about it.
Even people don't seem to be worked up about it. Sure, teabaggers make some noise about cutting government spending, but so far I haven't seen a single proposal from the Tea Party as to where they will cut spending. And I suspect they want to cut somebody else's spending, they don't want to touch the programs that are dear to them.
Unless there is public outcry about balancing the budget, it won't get done. In 1992 Perot did a splendid job of making people aware of the dangers inherent in huge deficit, so politicians (in this case, Clinton) did something about it.
So what is your point? Anybody, even I could arrest somebody if I think he is breaking the law and hand him over to the police, that means nothing.
The point is, it is up to the federal government to enforce immigration laws, and if Arizona arrests a Hispanic and hands him over to federal government, the federal government may simply choose to let him go free. Indeed, it would be interesting to see what happens if that indeed is the case, whether Arizona government won't take any subsequent action, or whether they will keep him in prison anyway on some trumped up charge.
Arizona is butting in where it doesn't belong, in immigration matters.
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Well the OP title looks to be just another dashed hope for the libs.
Well the OP title looks to be just another dashed hope for the libs.
The Left has to be running scared to make and issue about this.
Don't politicians ever learn? Just hours after winning California's GOP Senate nomination,
Carly Fiorina was unknowingly captured on a live microphone trashing her Democratic rival [COLOR=#366388 !important][COLOR=#366388 !important]Barbara [COLOR=#366388 !important]Boxer's[/COLOR][/COLOR][/COLOR] hair. "God, what is that hair?" the former Hewlett Packard chief said, quoting a friend. "Sooo yesterday," [COLOR=#366388 !important][COLOR=#366388 !important]Fiorina[/COLOR][/COLOR] giggled, smoothing her own short coif. You can watch the video of Fiorina's off-air remarks here (courtesy of ABC News):
OMG how horrible.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ynews/ynews_pl2520
Don't politicians ever learn? Just hours after winning California's GOP Senate nomination,
Carly Fiorina was unknowingly captured on a live microphone trashing her Democratic rival [COLOR=#366388 !important][COLOR=#366388 !important]Barbara [COLOR=#366388 !important]Boxer's[/COLOR][/COLOR][/COLOR] hair. "God, what is that hair?" the former Hewlett Packard chief said, quoting a friend. "Sooo yesterday," [COLOR=#366388 !important][COLOR=#366388 !important]Fiorina[/COLOR][/COLOR] giggled, smoothing her own short coif. You can watch the video of Fiorina's off-air remarks here (courtesy of ABC News):
OMG how horrible.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ynews/ynews_pl2520
I noticed that the results of the party primaries were business as usual in the US. Out of 84 incumbents 82 were winners. That is the usual amount of turnover in the US. Don't expect any really big changes in November either - no matter how much the US media hypes it up.
"Arizona is butting in where it doesn't belong, in immigration matters."
Mexico is butting in where it doesn't belong: In the United States.
Arizona is simply trying to what the federal government of either stripe has failed to do for decades. And even more shamefully, the Mexican government that fails to provide for its own citizens and encourage them to be illegal interlopers.
Mexico is butting in where it doesn't belong: In the United States.
Arizona is simply trying to what the federal government of either stripe has failed to do for decades. And even more shamefully, the Mexican government that fails to provide for its own citizens and encourage them to be illegal interlopers.