The left in the US could win big next week

EagleSmack

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True enough, just don't get within 100 miles of your borders without your papers, especially in Arizona.

Nothing like a little embellishment to prop up a claim based entirely on emotion and little on fact.
 

EagleSmack

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You are here ES. You are not a the nation previously and incorrectly known as America.

Ummm... yes we are.

As Petros has introduced the pertinent documents outlining Americas final disposal I hardly imagine that you have as yet digested the full implications of said document. I suppose that us dumb Canadians probably ain't got any better deal, we just won't make the same splash when we hit the wall at the end. We have a Queen.

I don't know Beav... I am still awaiting for your prediction of the US coming under martial law and Bush declaring himself dictator for life. You are almost 2 years overdue if I can remember correctly.
 

The Old Medic

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Cliffy, YOU may be confined by walls, you certainly appear to be. You are so bound up in your hatred and despair that you limit yourself severely. You see the confines that YOU have built for yourself, and in your paranoia, you project those walls onto everyone else.

As to darkbeaver, he shows signs of true paranoia. I hate to tell you db, but the United States of America is here, it is still pretty darn healthy, and it is not going anywhere.

Petros sounds like another paranoid fool.

If you truly support the Bloc, and its ambitions, then you are a fool. The quickest way to make absolutely certain that Quebec becomes totally and permanently irrelevant in this world would be for it to go independent.

Just how much influence has France had in this world since the 1870's? The answer is absolutely none. Quebec would be even less well off. Sadly, those of the French ancestral philosophy have a horrible tendency to believe that France and the French are the epitomy of what the world should be. They simply can't see that French culture, influence, etc. essentially died out about 1910.

Quebec has beautiful landscapes, much in the way of natural resources, and damn little else to offer the world. Were it to become an independent country, it would be totally walled in by a state that despised it for what it had done. It would quickly wither, losing its industry and most of it's productive people.

Just putting on you avatar that you support the Bloc shows how out of touch with reality you really are.
 

YukonJack

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Excellent post, Old Medic!

I have had my own battles with these guys and knowing fully well that one can not pi$$ against the wind, I let them feed their insatiable ego and let them have the last word.
 

Cliffy

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Cliffy, YOU may be confined by walls, you certainly appear to be. You are so bound up in your hatred and despair that you limit yourself severely. You see the confines that YOU have built for yourself, and in your paranoia, you project those walls onto everyone else.
I really don't understand your need to go out of your way to prove me right.
 

ironsides

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Cliffy, YOU may be confined by walls, you certainly appear to be. You are so bound up in your hatred and despair that you limit yourself severely. You see the confines that YOU have built for yourself, and in your paranoia, you project those walls onto everyone else.

As to darkbeaver, he shows signs of true paranoia. I hate to tell you db, but the United States of America is here, it is still pretty darn healthy, and it is not going anywhere.

Petros sounds like another paranoid fool.

If you truly support the Bloc, and its ambitions, then you are a fool. The quickest way to make absolutely certain that Quebec becomes totally and permanently irrelevant in this world would be for it to go independent.

Just how much influence has France had in this world since the 1870's? The answer is absolutely none. Quebec would be even less well off. Sadly, those of the French ancestral philosophy have a horrible tendency to believe that France and the French are the epitomy of what the world should be. They simply can't see that French culture, influence, etc. essentially died out about 1910.

Quebec has beautiful landscapes, much in the way of natural resources, and damn little else to offer the world. Were it to become an independent country, it would be totally walled in by a state that despised it for what it had done. It would quickly wither, losing its industry and most of it's productive people.

Just putting on you avatar that you support the Bloc shows how out of touch with reality you really are.
Very well written Old Medic, some just do not realize the psychological barriers they have put themselves behind.

By the way, the Left lost..
 

Icarus27k

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More on topic with the OP.

A US liberal's dream would be if, after November, the Democrats in the Senate have limited their predicted losses to 2-3 seats, giving them about a 55-seat majority. But at the same time, have Joe Sestak and Bill Halter each win and take the Pennsylvania and Arkansas seats to the left. Then, have Harry Reid lose his Nevada seat and get replaced as Senate Majority Leader by a doctrinaire liberal like Tom Harkin or Russ Feingold.

And then, over in the House of Representatives, all the centrist Blue Dog Democrats lose, leaving behind a liberal majority that are loyal to Nancy Pelosi. One that she can whip more easily.


In this scenario, the 2010 elections will make the Congress more left-wing.
 

EagleSmack

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More on topic with the OP.

A US liberal's dream would be if, after November, the Democrats in the Senate have limited their predicted losses to 2-3 seats, giving them about a 55-seat majority. But at the same time, have Joe Sestak and Bill Halter each win and take the Pennsylvania and Arkansas seats to the left. Then, have Harry Reid lose his Nevada seat and get replaced as Senate Majority Leader by a doctrinaire liberal like Tom Harkin or Russ Feingold.

And then, over in the House of Representatives, all the centrist Blue Dog Democrats lose, leaving behind a liberal majority that are loyal to Nancy Pelosi. One that she can whip more easily.


In this scenario, the 2010 elections will make the Congress more left-wing.

Well it is always ok to dream.

Three years ago the GOP was on life support. Obama and the Democrats revived the party more than any conservative.
 

Icarus27k

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It's easier to be the opposition than to be the governing party. With that said, I'm not sure the Republican Party is revived. RNC chairman Michael Steele is a little bit of a laughing stock; House Republican Leader John Boehner throws an embarrassing fit (I mean, like crying and exaggerrating) every time he's on the losing side of a vote; and Senate Republican Leader Mitch McConnell could be challenged as the leader from within his own caucus. Even new Republican leaders, like Massachusetts Sen. Scott Brown, is upsetting conservatives by voting with the Democrats on the Wall Street reform bill.

Am I to take it that every part of the GOP, except the leaders of the GOP, is revived?
 

EagleSmack

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It's easier to be the opposition than to be the governing party.

I'm laughing because the Dems found that out REAL QUICK didn't they! :lol:

With that said, I'm not sure the Republican Party is revived.

Well like I said to you...it's ok for you to dream.

RNC chairman Michael Steele is a little bit of a laughing stock;

Of course... :roll:

House Republican Leader John Boehner throws an embarrassing fit (I mean, like crying and exaggerrating) every time he's on the losing side of a vote;

Naturally... :roll:

and Senate Republican Leader Mitch McConnell could be challenged as the leader from within his own caucus.

A port in any storm Ic.

Even new Republican leaders, like Massachusetts Sen. Scott Brown, is upsetting conservatives by voting with the Democrats on the Wall Street reform bill.

Because he is smart. My Senator... Scott Brown is not a fool. He realizes that coming from the most liberal state in America he better bend here and there because if he doesn't he will be tarred and feathered here in Massachusetts. They tried it before saying he was in lock step with Bush and Cheney on every vote and he was a mere state representative and had no means to even vote on the national level. That does not stop the libs here in Mass though for fabricating lies.


Am I to take it that every part of the GOP, except the leaders of the GOP, is revived?

Take it as I said it. The GOP was on life support and Obama and the Democrats managed to revive them. The Dems are getting smoked all over. After Bush's Second Term Midterm elections when the Dems took back both houses and the election of Obama they were talking about a hundred year reign and how the GOP is gone forever. The GOP did not even know where to begin to rebuild. Enter Obama and the Democrat majority rule and things became easy. Look at the mood of the country from January 2009 to today. Feels different doesn't it? ;-)
 

Icarus27k

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For the record: Michael Steele, the RNC chairman who uses phrases like "slum love" and "one-armed midgets", is pretty laughing stock material.

Source: Michael Steele - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


Let's review. You said the Republican Party is experiencing a revivial. With leaders like this, I have to ask: a revival of what?

The title of Michael Steele's official blog at the RNC's website was originally "What Up?" until people all across the US laughed their a**es off and he quietly changed it.

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The Old Medic

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I truly am amused by the virtually total ignorance of some of the folks on this forum. Things like the Airizona law for example. It restricts no one, it does not prohibit anyone from doing anything and in no possible way does it restrict anyone's rights.

In actual fact, its wording is taken DIRECTLY from the Federal laws on the subject.

But, you wouldn't know that from watching CBC, ABC, NBC, CBS or by reading Associated Press. They all tell you that this is a racist law, bent on tossing all illegals out of the country, with no rights, no court, nothing.

Arizona has no way to send anyone out of the USA. They can not deport even a Kangaroo Mouse, much less an illegal. But the amerotic idiots that infest this forum believe that the police in Arizona have no higher priority than to dig out every illegal alien and toss them over the border.

They also appear to think that the US system works like Canada. Id the party in power becomes too unpopular, it goes out of power. WRONG, WRONG, WRONG.

Oh well, let them display their ignorance with there every post. Those of us that actually know get a real chuckle with their every utterance.
 

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"It restricts no one, it does not prohibit anyone from doing anything and in no possible way does it restrict anyone's rights."


If that is true, then why not abrogate it and nothing will be lost?

As for the left winning next week, don't know if that's true. After all, the Tea Baggers are no longer claiming morality as their big ticket as the Repukeblicans used to do.

‘Family values’ congressman says he’ll resign over affair | Raw Story


In the past this would have been major headlines. It no longer is.
 

SirJosephPorter

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I truly am amused by the virtually total ignorance of some of the folks on this forum. Things like the Airizona law for example. It restricts no one, it does not prohibit anyone from doing anything and in no possible way does it restrict anyone's rights.

In actual fact, its wording is taken DIRECTLY from the Federal laws on the subject.

And that precisely is the problem. Immigration is a federal matter, Arizona has no authority in the subject.

Arizona basically created a crises where there wasn't one. Sure USA has a big problem with illegal immigration and it must do something about it. However, Arizona whipped up anti-Hispanic hysteria by claiming that illegals are committing crimes all over the place, that decent, white Arizona folks are living in terror of their lives and so on.

Then it butted in where it doesn't belong, in a federal matter. The reason behind it was purely racism and xenophobia.

True enough, just don't get within 100 miles of your borders without your papers, especially in Arizona.

Reminds me of old slavery days. If a free black man from the north traveled to any of the Bible Belt states, he was required to carry his papers with him all the time, proving that he indeed is a free man.

If he could not prove it, the law in most Bible Belt states required that the state government take him into custody and sell him as a slave.
 

YukonJack

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There is no reason to quote the nonsense in post #34, so I won't.

But if your house is broken into, vandalized and the police will not do anything about it what is your choice?

Arizona did nothing more than trying to correct the habitual lazy, sloppy, do-nothing attitude of the Federal Government of either stripe.

Arizona did nothing more than calling its own plumber to fix a ruptured water pipe when the Federal Government tried - and half-heartedly, at that - to stop a leak with scotch tape and crazy glue.
 

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You are here ES. You are not a the nation previously and incorrectly known as America. As Petros has introduced the pertinent documents outlining Americas final disposal I hardly imagine that you have as yet digested the full implications of said document. I suppose that us dumb Canadians probably ain't got any better deal, we just won't make the same splash when we hit the wall at the end. We have a Queen.
The US has lots of Queens too.

More on topic with the OP.

A US liberal's dream would be if, after November, the Democrats in the Senate have limited their predicted losses to 2-3 seats, giving them about a 55-seat majority. But at the same time, have Joe Sestak and Bill Halter each win and take the Pennsylvania and Arkansas seats to the left. Then, have Harry Reid lose his Nevada seat and get replaced as Senate Majority Leader by a doctrinaire liberal like Tom Harkin or Russ Feingold.

And then, over in the House of Representatives, all the centrist Blue Dog Democrats lose, leaving behind a liberal majority that are loyal to Nancy Pelosi. One that she can whip more easily.


In this scenario, the 2010 elections will make the Congress more left-wing.

Left wing in the states would probably still be considered fairly far right in Canada.
The US with its massive debt will soon have all the relevance of Greece.
 

Cliffy

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Left wing in the states would probably still be considered fairly far right in Canada.
The US with its massive debt will soon have all the relevance of Greece.
One can only hope! Perhaps they will eventually take all their war toys and go home.
 

Icarus27k

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Let's review. You said the Republican Party is experiencing a revivial. With leaders like this, I have to ask: a revival of what?

I'm still waiting for an answer to this by Eagle? The GOP is having a revival, with leaders like Michael Steele? Really?

The US with its massive debt will soon have all the relevance of Greece.

Yeah, that's not going to happen. The US having troubles like Greece, that is.
 

SirJosephPorter

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More on topic with the OP.

A US liberal's dream would be if, after November, the Democrats in the Senate have limited their predicted losses to 2-3 seats, giving them about a 55-seat majority. But at the same time, have Joe Sestak and Bill Halter each win and take the Pennsylvania and Arkansas seats to the left. Then, have Harry Reid lose his Nevada seat and get replaced as Senate Majority Leader by a doctrinaire liberal like Tom Harkin or Russ Feingold.

And then, over in the House of Representatives, all the centrist Blue Dog Democrats lose, leaving behind a liberal majority that are loyal to Nancy Pelosi. One that she can whip more easily.


In this scenario, the 2010 elections will make the Congress more left-wing.

Perhaps. However, Republicans have hyped up their chances so much, have set expectations so high that now anything less that Republican control of House and Senate will be considered Republican defeat.

I'm still waiting for an answer to this by Eagle? The GOP is having a revival, with leaders like Michael Steele? Really?

The leader will be the Tea Party and Rand Paul (with his support of BP, opposition to the Civil Rights Act, and his wanting to bring back whites only businesses and segregated lunch counters).
 

Icarus27k

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More on the national debt issue. People don't seem to understand that US government spending is what is keeping the US economy propped up right now.

If we really wanted to cause a worldwide double-dip recession that dwarfs the debt crisis in Europe, we should just try to cut the US national debt. Doing so will mean the US economy will crash again, and the US being the big elephant that it is, will take everyone else down with it, again.