The islamic lie
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and when exactly was it that the Indians figured this out? Cause it sure as hell wasn't before "whitey" got here. The Indian has been raping this land long before "whitey" ever set foot on it. From killing more Bufallo than they could carry and eat on the western plains, to over using the land on which they grew their crops in the east. This would also include destroying marsh land that todays ecologists would have a hemorrhage over if it was done now.
Wrong Ger like usuall,thought you would know more of your history.The whiteys exterminated the buff's,maybe your ignorant but back then there was more buffaloes then you could shake a stick at,they only took what they needed to survive.The whiteys pretty well wiped out all the buffaloe,not the natives.They only took what they needed.
Some was trial and error, life was do or die and sometimes excess was taken but there respect and knowing that it alot of other specicies that would have have never been so populus as they were when we arrived with money.
Beaver was easy to get but cougar and lynx martins, fishers, foxes, mink, weasel, wolves, coyotes, bears etc that followed relied on the sometimes waste as much as early American man did when we got here to harvest them.
Beaver was easy to get but cougar and lynx martins, fishers, foxes, mink, weasel, wolves, coyotes, bears etc that followed relied on the sometimes waste as much as early American man did when we got here to harvest them.
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My Irish Catholic Grandfather might argue that one with yuh Laddy, but he's dead so I'll leave it at that.
ROFLMFAO.... typical "whitey", believe the bullshyte that get's pedaled. "Whitey" was more numerous and more efficient. That was/is the only difference.
When the Blackfoot drove a heard off a buffalo jump, they didn't cut out a couple of dozen. They would do 100's. What they didn't use or couldn't carry was left for the carrion eaters.
On the east coast, they would clear cut forests and grow untill crops wouldn't grow anymore, they would then move and clear cut some more and do the same thing again. They would fill in marsh's to make more farmland and then farm that untill it wouldn't grow anymore. They would then leave it and move on.
This "noble Indian" crap.... and "one with Mother earth" crap is bullshyte plain and simple. My ancestors from the east and my wifes from the west coast were not like this shyte that I see you and other morons peddle.
Was/were and are First Nations people screwed over by "whitey", yup, most definitely. Some more than others. But this romanticized crap that I keep seeing posted is beyond ridiculous.
oskana kasasetki
Collected from one buffalo pound near Regina original known as Pile 'O Bones when just a tent city.
Collected from one buffalo pound near Regina original known as Pile 'O Bones when just a tent city.
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Yup.we wiped them out,took away a food source for the natives and then forced them to go live in reserves.oskana kasasetki
Collected from one buffalo pound near Regina original known as Pile 'O Bones when just a tent city.
I live a half hour from head smashed in buffalo jump,they used all the buff parts when they went over the edge.As for the mother earth thing,your very ignorant then ger and i feel sorry for you.
Your a sad individual.
Best way to subdue a people is wipe out their food supply. In BC we wiped out the salmon runs on the Columbia and destroyed the Interior Salish culture.
I would question the farming methods used on the East coast as by the time European settlers arrived nearly 90% of the indigenous population had been wiped out by diseases introduced by explorers almost 1 hundred years before settler contact and many of the tribes had gone back to hunting and gathering for subsistence. With that kind of decimation it would be very difficult to maintain their communal agricultural practices. I would like to see evidence of land abuse because I find it difficult that evidence of that kind of land abuse was still evident.
Buffalo jump did show signs of overkill but nothing compared to what the settlers did to the herds. Evidence of that is the size and range of the herds when settlers first arrived. Records show the extent and reasons for the near extinction caused by the settlers.
I believe the Buffalo jump was much older than the arrival of the Blackfoot, which would have been around 1790s. I don't know that much about it, like who lived there before the Blackfoot.What I do know is that settler pressure drove them from their homeland in the East and the Cree chased them across the prairies until they hit the Rockies. There they chased the Kootenai (Ktunaxa) across the mountains to the East Kootenay region around Creston and Northern Montana. From what I can gather the Ktanaxa came from the East too and were driven ahead of the Blackfoot across the prairies.
Chill out Ger before you have a stroke or something.Your an old fu*k,enjoy life for a change,you,ve been allmost blowin a vien for as long as I have known you.
Do I have to ask Wendy to come slap you upside your head?
The mummy clan cave people were first,they were here at one time migrating up the shore of the inland sea in Alberta.
That is correct,it went farther then that with the flatheads after that but ya,thats right to a tee.
We should chat sometime.
Okay, if you say so. I seem to recall some of my relatives being killed because they were Protestants, but I wouldn't want to argue with you, because I'm sure you've been there and know all about it.
Oh, I forgot, the Irish terrorism wasn't involving Protestants and Catholics, and no Protestant church leaders fired up their troops, nor did any Catholic religious leaders.
But I'll leave it at that, because we don't want to disrupt our ideas that the only religious terrorism involves Muslims.
I think the Iroqouis Nation took a little more than they needed.
They were humans after all... no greater and no worse.
Exactly, Some North American Indian tribes also practiced slavery. Like I said, Europeans were more efficient in the killing and culling, and quickly became more numerous.
You forgot ritual cannibalism on the west coast. Slavery, as far I can see, was wide spread, coast to coast.
The point is Cliffy, Native North Americans are/were no different than any other member of the human race. Paleo-indians did a nice job of contributing to the extinction of the larger land animals of the paleolithic era in North America like the Mastodon and the Giant Elk. They weren't the only reason but they were a definite contributor.
I was going to add the mass extinction of some mammals in North America coinciding with the arrival of man in North America. Those would be First Nation and Native Americans.
That is true as well. There was a big controversy about that information getting out but the evidence spoke for itself. Human bones were found to have cut marks that are similar to cut marks on the bones of prey animals.
What I found interesting in my research was that those who supposedly migrated here from Asia lived among the same species there (Siberia) but rarely hunted or ate those giant animals. Suddenly the come here and hunt them to extinction. Something does not add up there. Also, new evidence has emerged that say humans were here long before the last Ice Age and many migrated from Europe. So, I'm thinking that your information might use a little updating. 1491 - Pre-Columbian America is a very good source of more recent archaeological discoveries. National Geographic and the Smithsonian on line are also pretty good (that is if you are interested).
From what I read they were hunted both in Eurasia and North America. They weren't hunted to extinction but the consensus is that hunting did contribute to it. The mammoth was already in stress due to many factors, hunting didn't help.
I guess the early Americans weren't as in tune with the environment and other living things as is popularly believed.