The Improbability of God
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Spade, the deleted post must have been really a fruity one. It was not deleted because it was repeated (one previous post was deleted because of repetition and the words ‘repeated and deleted’ appear in its place).
So the deleted post must have been really an offensive one.
Anyway, when the rapture does come and all the Fundamentalist Christian crazies are raptured to Heaven, perhaps we ought to work out some sort of deal with God, and ask him to take all the Fundamentalist Muslim crazies as well.
Haven't you heard, everybody gets one rapture free, and uh, it is actually the evil ones who are doing the traveling.
M't:24:28:
For wheresoever the carcase is,
there will the eagles be gathered together.
M't:24:39:
And knew not until the flood came,
and took them all away;
so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
M't:24:40:
Then shall two be in the field;
the one shall be taken,
and the other left.
M't:24:41:
Two women shall be grinding at the mill;
the one shall be taken, and the other left.
M't:13:41:
The Son of man shall send forth his angels,
and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend,
and them which do iniquity;
Joe:2:5:
Like the noise of chariots on the tops of mountains shall they leap,
like the noise of a flame of fire that devoureth the stubble,
as a strong people set in battle array.
Joe:2:6:
Before their face the people shall be much pained:
all faces shall gather blackness.
Joe:2:7:
They shall run like mighty men;
they shall climb the wall like men of war;
and they shall march every one on his ways,
and they shall not break their ranks:
Joe:2:8:
Neither shall one thrust another;
they shall walk every one in his path:
and when they fall upon the sword,
they shall not be wounded.
Joe:2:9:
They shall run to and fro in the city;
they shall run upon the wall,
they shall climb up upon the houses;
they shall enter in at the windows like a thief.
Joe:2:10:
The earth shall quake before them;
the heavens shall tremble:
the sun and the moon shall be dark,
and the stars shall withdraw their shining:
Joe:2:11:
And the LORD shall utter his voice before his army:
for his camp is very great:
for he is strong that executeth his word:
for the day of the LORD is great and very terrible;
and who can abide it?
And then they melt basically, other than the next 1,000 continuous years without a break of any kind from torment and torture and gnashing of teeth, etc, etc, etc and pain it comes without long-term consequences.
So what may appear to be a rapture of(people outwardly appear close to God they are actually the ones being cleaned out of that house, if that is the fate of the 'righteous' then what about the actual on purpose sinners. I fear their fate will not be any kinder.
What a great idea! unfortunately it has one flaw in that there is no god to negotiate with. ;-)
That would be a second flaw then, that (who actually goes up into the air) and the mistrake you pointed out.
How interesting of a book would it be if there was no sorting to be done. One read and then....nothing....ever
But, brother MHz, it is just one book of many.
I wonder if Benny the Sixteen can help us or is he too busy with the Society of St. Pius X on the far right and the moderate Hans kung on the left? We could email him.
I wonder if Benny the Sixteen can help us or is he too busy with the Society of St. Pius X on the far right and the moderate Hans kung on the left? We could email him.
Aesop and Ashly Brilliant both have books out that tell their little life lessons in the form of parables. The beauty of writing in that style is that it could be sold as is in many languages. Rather than never being read by one faction of man because of one factor or another another. ie a burrow being the bad person in a short, easy to understand story. Universally men will laugh at a jackass being the ass rather than a 'name' that could apply to any one segment of man that they have affection for.
This doesn't relate precisely to this thread but it does tie in.
CTV.ca | Religion protects against stress, study suggests
"Believing in God might help religious people block anxiety when under stress, finds new research from the University of Toronto that looked at brain differences between believers and non-believers....
...The subjects were hooked up to electrodes that measured activity in the area of the brain called the anterior cingulate cortex (ACC), which is involved in emotion control and helps us to modify behaviour during an anxiety-producing event such as making a mistake. Inzlicht's team found that those volunteers who considered themselves religious showed significantly less activity in the ACC compared to non-believers -- suggesting they were experiencing less anxiety during the test and when they made mistakes....
..."In fact, we did not find religious people made more errors -- they actually made significantly fewer errors, which was very interesting to us," Inzlicht told CTV.ca....
...Inzlicht says his team is not ready to say that a belief in God causes one to be less anxious; but the correlation was found so repeatedly, he believes the findings are significant and require further investigation....
Perhaps they had less anxiety or maybe they were helped by god. It's not really very surprising results as some of us are keenly aware that believers do make fewer mistakes than atheists.
CTV.ca | Religion protects against stress, study suggests
"Believing in God might help religious people block anxiety when under stress, finds new research from the University of Toronto that looked at brain differences between believers and non-believers....
...The subjects were hooked up to electrodes that measured activity in the area of the brain called the anterior cingulate cortex (ACC), which is involved in emotion control and helps us to modify behaviour during an anxiety-producing event such as making a mistake. Inzlicht's team found that those volunteers who considered themselves religious showed significantly less activity in the ACC compared to non-believers -- suggesting they were experiencing less anxiety during the test and when they made mistakes....
..."In fact, we did not find religious people made more errors -- they actually made significantly fewer errors, which was very interesting to us," Inzlicht told CTV.ca....
...Inzlicht says his team is not ready to say that a belief in God causes one to be less anxious; but the correlation was found so repeatedly, he believes the findings are significant and require further investigation....
Perhaps they had less anxiety or maybe they were helped by god. It's not really very surprising results as some of us are keenly aware that believers do make fewer mistakes than atheists.
The Bible is the most argued about set of words that has ever come off the end of any pen. Wars have been fought over the words that are written inside the Bible.
It is calming in that it takes years and years to sort the whole story out. Reading isn't yet considered a violent past-time.
We can score quite high on the pop quizzes, it' s the practical exercises where we really suck.
Yeah, well, that's all about as relevant as the fact that a drunken man might feel happier than a sober one. It has nothing to do with what's true or not true, it's about perceptions, beliefs, and feelings, not facts. Whether god exists or not still remains to be established. I can readily believe that belief in god would have certain results, but it has nothing to do with his actual existence. People believe all kinds of things that aren't true, like astrology, and those beliefs have results, but they're unrelated to the actual truth content of the claim.
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Well, I had to leave early this morning to go to Nelson. Just got back and find I have missed all the fun.
I like this Freya goddess. I mean, who could not like a naked blond with blue wings? Gives my goose bumps goose bumps.
Oh! and Sir Joseph, my karma ran over your dogma. In my religion, I get to come back if I want to and do the things I didn't get to do this time around. So there!:booty:
Ya! We are all figments of our imaginations and the world as we know it is a computer construct (virtual reality).
God does not speak directly to people
So you want to negotiate with God? This great honor had not been given to any human whose abdomen is full of gases and dirt. Not even souls after death can have this.
Only He spoke to his servant Moses in this World, not directly, but through the olive tree, when He was not in the tree, but from His high place over His glorious throne, He sent the voice through the ether waves, and Moses heard it from the olive tree.
He speaks to the inhabitants of Paradise when they will be admitted into it; He speaks to them with salutation: by saying to them: "Salam" [to you righteous servants of God!]
This is in the Quran 42: 51
وَمَا كَانَ لِبَشَرٍ أَن يُكَلِّمَهُ اللَّهُ إِلَّا وَحْيًا أَوْ مِن وَرَاء حِجَابٍ أَوْ يُرْسِلَ رَسُولًا فَيُوحِيَ بِإِذْنِهِ مَا يَشَاء إِنَّهُ عَلِيٌّ حَكِيمٌ
The explanation:
(It was not [vouchsafed] to any mortal that God should [directly] speak to him,
unless [He might speak to him]
by inspiration,
or from behind a veil,
or He might send a messenger [: an angel] who would reveal by His leave what [revelation] He please;
He is All-Exalted, Most Wise.)
man-after-death.t35.com
(It was not [vouchsafed] to any mortal that God should [directly] speak to him,
unless [He might speak to him]
by inspiration,
or from behind a veil,
or He might send a messenger [: an angel] who would reveal by His leave what [revelation] He please;
He is All-Exalted, Most Wise.)
man-after-death.t35.com