The History and Meaning of "Palestine" and "Palestinians"
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I can see why they don't call you eagle-eye, 'I'd be more than happy to post articles like that if I could find some.' I can see how news articles about the area would mess up the general theme. Is repetition of the same theme like that C & P thing you find so offensive?. Can you read the map defined in UN 181, not a terribly hard question, or at least it shouldn't be.
In that same document you don't want to read is a date by which independence has to be recognized by the UN. Earlier is fine but one cannot exist without the other. I can see how little details like that could mess up the direction you want to see the thread go. lol Carry on though, it isn't everyday I get to see a professional at being stupid at work, let alone one that is head of a 6-pac. Swat the weakest and the first to deflect that attack is the one that should have been the one at the start. So far you aren't very unpredictable.
You would be in a better position to compare how much better Gaza has it than any Indian you know from any Reservation. Palestine would be the area on the wrong side of a tall wall if you were to walk the land. Google earth is a decent mapping program, think the places mentioned in UN181 can still be found? That name is still up for grabs when defining nationhood at the UN. Gazanians just has no ring to it.
In that same document you don't want to read is a date by which independence has to be recognized by the UN. Earlier is fine but one cannot exist without the other. I can see how little details like that could mess up the direction you want to see the thread go. lol Carry on though, it isn't everyday I get to see a professional at being stupid at work, let alone one that is head of a 6-pac. Swat the weakest and the first to deflect that attack is the one that should have been the one at the start. So far you aren't very unpredictable.
You would be in a better position to compare how much better Gaza has it than any Indian you know from any Reservation. Palestine would be the area on the wrong side of a tall wall if you were to walk the land. Google earth is a decent mapping program, think the places mentioned in UN181 can still be found? That name is still up for grabs when defining nationhood at the UN. Gazanians just has no ring to it.
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You forgot the 'we interrupt this ......' part. This would be a lot easier if you guys just published a full list of documents and articles that can should never be referenced. I would go with 'whatever we say' but those updates are few and far in between, know what I mean?
Your version of freedom is you talking and anybody not in agreement can shut up. That about sum your message up?
(forgetting the part that 6 bigger idiots backing you up is a sign of how solid your fantasy is)
No, no one knows what you mean. You babble more than you make sense.
We've argued these matters to the bitter end. You offer nothing new but different angles to the same responses, intermixed with more of your patented idiocy.
Nope, that's just what you think because you aren't bright enough to understand.
'You offer nothing new but different angles . . . ', no wonder I'm such a heretic. As for supporting your sanity as far as deductive reasoning, I rest my case.
Really? Egypt over-blows a brick building and Israeli dome sensors picks up a brick that 'got away' and it 'matches' a certain shell so the borders get closed in all. How many times in a row is that, Vegas would bar this bunch. Fill the harbor building this and it becomes part of what country, Palestine or Israel? Some headlines have used the term, 'the west bank of Israel' and it's only an annex away from that. Gaza is different as she has access to international waters.
There's a real whiff of terra nullius here. You don't exist so this is ours now. We are all well acquainted with this line of argument, being major beneficiaries in these here parts.
Oh the twisting of truth into thick knots made of fathoms of lies. Israel never existed and never will, not on a chunk of land anyway.
Jews aren't from Israel. They are from Judea. Israelites in Isreal became the Christians, Muzzies, those who stayed with Mosaic Law and others in Palestine.
That thick book lays it all out really damn clearly.
[SIZE=-1]Erasing Palestine from the Map
The second major problem with this map is that Palestine—both historic and contemporary—is erased from it. A white dotted line traces the border between the West Bank and Israel but the line is barely visible beneath the yellow-shaded ring. Moreover, “West Bank” (not “occupied West Bank,” or “occupied Palestinian territory,” or “Palestinian West Bank” or “Palestine,” mind you) appears in font so small that it seems to designate some tiny city northeast of Jerusalem, not the Palestinian territory occupied by Israel since 1967. And while Israeli municipalities such as Arad, Ashdod, Holan, and Hrzliya, among others, are included, nowhere can one find the Palestinian cities of Ramallah, Nablus, Bethlehem, or Jericho, much less al-Bira, Jenin, or Qalqilia. Only Jerusalem and Hebron, West Bank cities that are significant to both Israelis and Palestinians, are featured. Even Jaffa, the coastal Palestinian city north of Tel Aviv, has been replaced by the Israeli-Hebrew version, “Yafo.”
So what does this map tell us about the Israel-Palestine conflict? It’s not apparent what or where Palestine is, or that it even exists, but the map suggests that an ever-menacing, Iranian-supported Islamist group threatens more than half of Israel. And therefore, Israel is “concerned.” Presumably, the reader might conclude, that “concern” forces Israel to periodically defend itself, launching its own counter-attacks into the Gaza Strip. The West Bank, meanwhile, appears for all intents and purposes, part of Israel and in no way related to the Gaza Strip or the cartographically cleansed “Palestine.” So Israel’s geography is simplified into a need to defend itself and Palestine is wiped off the map.Erasing Palestine From the Map » CounterPunch: Tells the Facts, Names the Names
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Israel exists in the mind only and ever. It is not material. The glory has been expropriated. The word never meant a piece of land until relatively recent time. We could have called Nova Scotia heaven but that would be very wrong as well.
The second major problem with this map is that Palestine—both historic and contemporary—is erased from it. A white dotted line traces the border between the West Bank and Israel but the line is barely visible beneath the yellow-shaded ring. Moreover, “West Bank” (not “occupied West Bank,” or “occupied Palestinian territory,” or “Palestinian West Bank” or “Palestine,” mind you) appears in font so small that it seems to designate some tiny city northeast of Jerusalem, not the Palestinian territory occupied by Israel since 1967. And while Israeli municipalities such as Arad, Ashdod, Holan, and Hrzliya, among others, are included, nowhere can one find the Palestinian cities of Ramallah, Nablus, Bethlehem, or Jericho, much less al-Bira, Jenin, or Qalqilia. Only Jerusalem and Hebron, West Bank cities that are significant to both Israelis and Palestinians, are featured. Even Jaffa, the coastal Palestinian city north of Tel Aviv, has been replaced by the Israeli-Hebrew version, “Yafo.”
So what does this map tell us about the Israel-Palestine conflict? It’s not apparent what or where Palestine is, or that it even exists, but the map suggests that an ever-menacing, Iranian-supported Islamist group threatens more than half of Israel. And therefore, Israel is “concerned.” Presumably, the reader might conclude, that “concern” forces Israel to periodically defend itself, launching its own counter-attacks into the Gaza Strip. The West Bank, meanwhile, appears for all intents and purposes, part of Israel and in no way related to the Gaza Strip or the cartographically cleansed “Palestine.” So Israel’s geography is simplified into a need to defend itself and Palestine is wiped off the map.Erasing Palestine From the Map » CounterPunch: Tells the Facts, Names the Names
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Israel exists in the mind only and ever. It is not material. The glory has been expropriated. The word never meant a piece of land until relatively recent time. We could have called Nova Scotia heaven but that would be very wrong as well.
Gee whiz. There wasn't even Israelitesat that time. 900 years before Abraham left Iraq for Egypt.