The History and Meaning of "Palestine" and "Palestinians"

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Moral equally would mean the Israel Gov has the exiled Arabs being voters in the elections. The gift part is the Jews that were exiled to Israel (that has a strange sound to it) get to vote as they have been there for decades already.

Solve the issue in the UN Courts and give out large cash prizes as the only form of compensation. Jews being the ones to throw themselves on the financial sword would be something the world's general public would be hard pressed to find fault with. Like GWB and the all fingers wave joke, one funny moment doesn't make up for all the puppet moves he made. The big costs would be passed over to the 5 Arab/OPEC Nations backing the rebels in Stria as they would get tapped for all the unrest in the whole area. Their money is already in European controlled banks and they have a lot more of it still in the ground.

Central and South Americans know how to say 'Don't shoot.' in 10 languages.' Hebrenese is not one of them, they have a different one for that situation.

Zec:8:23:
Thus saith the LORD of hosts;
In those days it shall come to pass,
that ten men shall take hold out of all languages of the nations,
even shall take hold of the skirt of him that is a Jew,
saying,
We will go with you:
for we have heard that God is with you.
 

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I had a comment for his post....but I think you covered it all pretty well
The reason for you making a post is taken away and so no post should have been made but you made a post saying you weren't going to be making one for said reason. That about sum it (and your life) up?

That has a patent?? 8O

Man those standards are set low.
Did Tosh make more in season one than in his last season? There is water-cooler banter about needing better condemners though.

And more.
You are so sensitive. Hebrenese will now now forever known as Hebewnese
 

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You seem to be a bit behind time as far as the facts, start at about 6:30.
No, I don't think I'll bother. Anyone whose reality is governed by a uniquely twisted understanding of texts written between two and five millennia ago isn't someone I'm going to accept information from, and anyone you agree with is likely to be just as wrong as you are.
 

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You recommend a 2 hour illuminati movie.......I'll pass....and I doubt you'll find many taker....

You are beyond stoopid......misspelled on purpose because it's a mile beyond stupid!
 

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No, I don't think I'll bother. Anyone whose reality is governed by a uniquely twisted understanding of texts written between two and five millennia ago isn't someone I'm going to accept information from, and anyone you agree with is likely to be just as wrong as you are.
Yes, . . . that has been known to be an obstacle a time or two. I'd rather have more answers than questions when it is all said and done and be avoided than have questions in a room where looking for answers is not encouraged but then that's just me
Too bad the banking solution comes 10 verses from the same book. I doubt by comments are going to bring down it down when it has survived for 100's of years

The blanket condemnation might include belief in gravity so try not to run over the event horizon. Making money and banking a public service is easier to do than bringing people back from the grave. We can easily do one but refuse to do it. There is no better proof that relief of the hazards of being poor is not even on the list of things that need fixing, the quality of life for the rich would not change as they cannot spend all they take in.

If I spent the same time with a similar book of a similar size I should be as familiar with the contents after a similar amount of time. If it is shorter then theology is not my 'strongest' subject. Mechanical design is also something that is something that I can visual in the same animation form once there is a starting point and a finish point. Presently that would be altering flax handling equipment into something that could handle hemp stalks bundled for transport by rail. That would mean clearing land that fits the guidelines for the strict guidelines (like elk strength fencing) and if you have to do that why not really landscape it to take full advantage of the location. That could mean south sloping land could be used but north sloping land lost production to a level that it should be avoided in that there is a lot of south sloping land to utilize. None of that has anything to do with reading and having an opinion of the bible. If it stops you from being able to visualize anything else I can write about then that is your loss not mine. If my opinion includes designs for thing like perpetual motion wheels or front-wheel drive choppers then I am still better of by being able to describe various designs with the pros and cons that some one line that is based on 'avoid because He believes in God' gets the attention.

Without it being a brag as I spent several years flipping through the pages looking for answers I can honestly say it is a lot more fun to be playing with answers instead. It was never a conversion mission so it could never be failed as each discussion usually led to something new.
Change the subject and who is in the discussion there are still new things coming as answers to a variety of 'questions'. For hemp production it might be automatic stooking at cutting time or rake 2x and then stook once the leaves are on the ground stopping weeds from starting. For the local area that gets clear-cut it could be an attractive ground cover to stop erosion untill the spruce crow taller than they are. Religion beliefs means limited open doors (thread) here.
The homesteaders will have to survive with the haywire fixes. If I can power the homestead by spinning up a wheel weighing a few tons with a cable I can pull with my truck when leaving (little faster than norm) What farmer would want to put the solar yard light in all the fence posts rather than the 1,00W yard light that covers 1,00sq ft at best. Homestead inventions should be front line items rather than what cab be salvaged at the local dump.
That might be the next industry in North America, luckily we buried a lot of stuff in the last few 100 years, time to go treasure hunting with something resembling eco-dredging. 22nd century machine going over material sorted and buried in the 1800's. Yukon gold would get the gold and the mercury and the arsenic and all the other 'goodies' left behind. Benign soil and all products sold to the business community. Old city dumps would be the areas that cities would mine.

Not that this place rates high on the discussion trail but even the few Jews I've chatted with will admit that if you are going to read an English Bible the one to read is the 1611KJV. Was it worth the 20 page discussion, sure. The bad part is I know that defining the 'land of the enemy' is the one point their argument comes up short. No need to exploit it, they already know it is short of being perfectly understood.

Chats would also have covered weather patterns of the ice ages. lol, as you can see I'm about as dangerous as 'we' come, if there was more than one, there isn't. For the record, I hope there is an ending coming shortly for a bankers plan for the area. I also know a repeat of Iran from 1953-1979 isn't going to work, shoveling in $1T for useful community projects will work though. Not one Govt has ever been overthrown by the people because they were 'too nice'.
 

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Zec:8:23:
Thus saith the LORD of hosts;
In those days it shall come to pass,
that ten men shall take hold out of all languages of the nations,
even shall take hold of the skirt of him that is a Jew,
saying,
We will go with you:
for we have heard that God is with you.

You're lucky that your biblical quote is sort of relevant to the thread so I'll give you a pass on a STGTSWC quote......this time.

"Jewish Girl Blues" by Bradley Fish - www.bradleyfish.com - YouTube
 

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...The blanket condemnation might include belief in gravity so try not to run over the event horizon. Making money and banking a public service is easier to do than bringing people back from the grave. We can easily do one but refuse to do it. There is no better proof that relief of the hazards of being poor is not even on the list of things that need fixing, the quality of life for the rich would not change as they cannot spend all they take in.... [etc.]
I'd try to respond in detail to whatever it is you're arguing if I knew what it is, but I don't, so I can't. That word salad reads like you're drunk or stoned. The only point I got from it--and I'm far from sure about even this much--is that you're thinking I reject your information and arguments because you believe in god and I don't. That's really irrelevant, I reject them because they're wrong.
 

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You recommend a 2 hour illuminati movie.......I'll pass....and I doubt you'll find many taker....

You are beyond stoopid......misspelled on purpose because it's a mile beyond stupid!
Jordan Maxwell and Admiralty Law is a tad dry I'll give you that, however it is the only place the BAR and the City of London are explained in any detail.
There is a 4hr one also. I listen to them more than sit and intently watch. This guy has an interesting out look on the OT. (1 to 4)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mtBz1roiQR8&list=PLEA099CE59F0A0322&index=3

I'd try to respond in detail to whatever it is you're arguing if I knew what it is, but I don't, so I can't. That word salad reads like you're drunk or stoned. The only point I got from it--and I'm far from sure about even this much--is that you're thinking I reject your information and arguments because you believe in god and I don't. That's really irrelevant, I reject them because they're wrong.
The 'salad' was a short list of topics that I could cover in as much detail as the Bible. That you conclude something about how accurate my views would be on a different subjects when you have never heard them as we have never covered the short list.

Like I mentioned earlier I'm not aware I am missing anything important by not covering anything more than what is already under the bridge. Even the expanding earth theory has never explained how you can push crust that floars into a liquid that ins under so much pressure it is shooting up into the air to a great height. It doesn't matter if I even find a suitable answer as it might belong in the 'unanswered pile' for a long time to come.
Glad you are still kicking,
bye.
 

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Palestine is merely a geographical region. Calling Palestine a country is like calling Western Europe a country; or the Levant a country. It has never existed as a nation state. Israel isn't even the only country which is situated in Palestine. Jordan does, too.

It's very noticeable that the pro-Palestinian/anti-Israel brigade do not know all this. They're very ignorant of the political history of the region and believe that Palestine was once a nation state until nasty Israel came along and "occupied" it. And if you try to tell them the truth, they'll just ignore you.
 

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So anyways, Egypt has to clear a buffer zone to try and hinder tunnelling by Hamas and its criminal enterprises as well.

I wonder what else Israel did wrong this week.
 

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They remained in existence. Duh!
At least they know what to do to win the hearts and minds of this crowd and they appear to be the gift that keeps giving. The history of the brownshirts would have segments where bad is called good, no better example of that than this motley crew. (inquiring minds would want to know why none of you can ever find articles like this, I already have the answer to that one) This would the clay becoming the potter, works as well as any species jump in the past.
If something isn't acknowledged then it doesn't exist right? wow and I get a ring side-seat to see just who that works on, so far it is only the mindless and really who will miss them?

http://rt.com/news/201579-israel-gaza-border-crossing/
Israel has said it’s shutting the only two operating Gaza border crossings indefinitely. This comes a day after a projectile hit Israel from the strip, but caused no damage. Border closures threaten to isolate already devastated Gaza completely.
The move will affect both the Kerem Shalom and Erez border crossings, Haartez reported, quoting Israel’s defense establishment. The authorities have notified the Palestinians of the decision.
Meanwhile, the three other crossings into Gaza are still not operational and the passage from the area into Egypt – the Rafah crossing – remains closed.
From now on and until further notice, only critical humanitarian aid going into Gaza will be allowed via the Erez crossing.



Over 1.7 million Gazans isolated from the world after Israel, Egypt close crossings « Aletho News


Gaza has become an open-air prison after Israel decided to close two border crossings with Gaza, the army said on Sunday, after a rocket allegedly fired from the Palestinian enclave struck its territory.
The Israeli blockade comes a week after Egypt closed its border with Gaza. With all borders closed, more than one and a half million people in Gaza are now isolated from the outside world. They are prisoners inside the 360 square kilometers that make up the coastal Strip.
“The crossing points for people and goods, Erez and Kerem Shalom, have been closed until further notice except for humanitarian aid,” an army spokeswoman said.
She said that the measure was taken after a rocket fired from Gaza hit Israeli-occupied Palestinian territory on Friday, without causing any casualties or damage.
There was no claim of responsibility from any armed faction in Gaza. A military spokeswoman said forces were still searching for debris.


PHOTO OF SUSPECTED PALESTINIAN TERRORIST | Desertpeace
ERUSALEM (Ma’an) — Israeli forces in occupied East Jerusalem on Friday attempted to detain two Palestinian children, a two-year-old and a nine-year old, on suspicion of throwing rocks.Israeli soldiers were conducting a raid on the home of the Jaber family in the Silwan neighborhood in order to search for an individual suspected of throwing rocks at them from the roof, the family told Ma’an.When the soldiers ascended to the roof to detain the alleged culprit, however, they found a two-year-old named Mimati Asaad Jaber who was playing with his mother. While they were playing, apparently, a rock had fallen into the street below.
The boy’s grandfather, who was in the house during the raid, said that the boy was only playing and that he did not know there were soldiers in the street below the building when he tossed the stone.
Upon seeing the two-year-old with his mother, however, the Israeli soldiers shifted their attention to a nine-year-old member of the family nearby.

Europeans Are the Last People to Teach Israel Moral Lessons: Journalist | Analysis & Opinion | RIA Novosti
“While recognizing Israel's legitimate right to defend itself against any attacks, the EU underlines that the Israeli military operation must be proportionate and in line with international humanitarian law,” the EU Council said in a statement issued July 22. “The EU is particularly appalled by the human cost of the Israeli military operation in Shuja’iyya, and is deeply concerned at the rapidly deteriorating humanitarian situation,” the EU Council stressed.

Palestine is merely a geographical region. Calling Palestine a country is like calling Western Europe a country; or the Levant a country. It has never existed as a nation state. Israel isn't even the only country which is situated in Palestine. Jordan does, too.

It's very noticeable that the pro-Palestinian/anti-Israel brigade do not know all this. They're very ignorant of the political history of the region and believe that Palestine was once a nation state until nasty Israel came along and "occupied" it. And if you try to tell them the truth, they'll just ignore you.
If any person has trouble putting the UN181 defined Arab lands on a map should that person should not be part of any discussion about anything anywhere. The Brits would be the masters at putting fine-print and loop-holes into contracts and treaties. The 'legal' hold is what is written in the Torah is it not? Do they have any proof that the land could be gifted to them by the physical owner. The book of wars would seem that there was some resistance to that 'coming home'. It is also no legally possible to claim something in reality as being yours if the only proof is a document that is thought of to be a collection of stories, by the same people that want the land. BTW Judism is a religious movement rather than a political one, the UN Human right documents are ones that the Muslim general population would readily adopt and history bears that out. It also bears out that the West is the ones holding back that transformation and that has to be agenda driven because people are not that stupid naturally. At least there are examples of how a single bad idea can be changed into the 'norm' in surprisingly few steps.

If $6B is raised in reconstruction how long would it take to spend it if this incident closes the border for that long (unknown length)? Any models of what the final product will be? I assume the Bedouin villages are part of the package, perhaps something in early gypsy only with ATCO 72 footers x 5 pulled by a D8 Camel. I assume the wandering foot syndrome is more to do with water than the need to travel in a migratory route.

I'd be more than happy to post articles like that if I could find some.
 
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