The Guardian: Occupy was right: capitalism has failed the world

Tecumsehsbones

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As opposed to not good science...all that matters is that the methods and analysis are appropriate, and that the conclusions follow from the results.

You're the one trying to paint it as the science of one group-green beans- versus another-corporations. I'm the scientist telling you it's a false dilemma.
Umm. . . Ton? It's false dichotomy. Sorry.

Edited to add:

You're usually spot-on, so I checked. It's false dichotomy OR false dilemma, both acceptable. That's better.
 

petros

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Aren't you the one that said we are currently in an ice age?

We are indeed. You never knew that? When all the polar and alpine glaciers are gone, then and only then can you say we're out of the ice age.

How is that polar melting coming along? Ice free by 2013¿

No f-cking clue whatsoever.

Interglacial
An interglacial period is a geological interval of warmer global average temperature lasting thousands of years that separates consecutive glacial periods within an ice age
 

mentalfloss

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Yes, interglacial.

And just because we are in an interglacial period does not mean that is the reason for the warming.
 

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A group of Duke investors push to out directors
About 39,000 tons of ash spilled Feb. 2 from a pond at a shuttered coal-fired power plant near Eden, N.C., triggering investigations and subpoenas. The incident, the third-largest coal-ash spill in the U.S., coated 70 miles of the Dan River, according to the letter.

Shares of Duke Energy, the predominant utility serving Greater Cincinnati and Northern Kentucky, have become the worst performer on the 13-company Standard & Poor’s 500 Electric Utility Index since the spill became public. Shares closed Tuesday at $72.81, up 74 cents on the day.

A federal grand jury is probing North Carolina’s oversight of the company’s 33 coal-ash ponds in that state. Gov. Pat McCrory, a former Duke employee, has asked the company to remove coal from riverbanks to prevent a recurrence.

The state regulator, the Department of Environmental and Natural Resources, last month cited Duke for violating pollution permits when it pumped 61 million gallons of coal-ash pond wastewater into a tributary of the Cape Fear River. The state is also seeking to revive lawsuits filed last year over pollution from ponds at two plants. Duke has denied the permit violations.​

Yep, another example of capitalists improving the land and water! Though in this case some investors are responding, which should please the Occupiers :lol:

Umm. . . Ton? It's false dichotomy. Sorry.

Edited to add:

You're usually spot-on, so I checked. It's false dichotomy OR false dilemma, both acceptable. That's better.

Yes, many names for it, which is unhelpful!
 

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Federal regulators fine GM $7,000 a day - Fortune Features
Federal regulators have fined General Motors $28,000 -- a total that will grow $7,000 with each passing day -- over its failure to answer questions about its ignition switch recall.

GM had until April 3 to answer 107 questions related to the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration's investigation into why it took the automaker more than a decade to reveal an ignition switch defect that has been linked to 13 deaths.

The $7,000-a-day fine will continue until the company responds to all questions, the NHTSA said. The federal agency may ask the U.S. Department of Justice to take civil action to compel the automaker to respond. The automaker could face a maximum penalty of $35 million in civil fines for failing to respond fully or truthfully, according to details in NHTSA's original special order of investigation to GM.

In February, the automaker issued a recall of the 2005 to 2007 model year Chevrolet Cobalt, Pontiac G5 and Pontiac Pursuit as well as 2003 to 2007 Saturn Ions, 2006 to 2007 Chevrolet HHRs and 2006 to 2007 Pontiac Solstice and 2007 Saturn Sky models. The recall was later expanded to include all model years, affecting about 2.6 million cars worldwide.​

Honest mistake right, to wait more than a decade to reveal a failure? It surely can't be because the cost of recalls would have been bigger than the cost of settlements? Was someone prattling on about the bottom line earlier? :roll:
 

mentalfloss

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To wait more than a decade to reveal a failure that actually killed people.

Happy Capitalism!
 

mentalfloss

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Ship! I thought people kill people. And, now I hear it is economic theory.

It becomes a problem when reaping a profit can lead to significant harm to others.

Good legislation fixes that problem.