The Great American LIE.

EagleSmack

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OB,

You and I go back many years so you know better than anyone here what I have always stood for.

smoochsmoochsmooch

No pride

It's been going on for the past 20 years and the pillaging knows no partisian boundaries. It's everyone's fault for letting it happen regardless of your political preference.

Just 20? I'd say longer.
 

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Nay Nay... he's looking like he's always looked like and he suckered you Libs in!

Bush's wars... don't forget he added a third! lol

This ALL OBAMA baaaaby!
But unlike you, I at least apply my principles on a consistent basis. I criticize him for giving welfare to the rich and for prolonging two needless wars. In fact, I was the first one on this forum to criticize his stimulus package and this was acknowledged by some right wingers here. Today you attack him for this but you failed to do it with Bush when he gave away trillions in welfare to the rich and when he started those wars. Ultimately you people stopped supporting Bush's wars. But only after it was proven he lied about WMD. But if you were really principled, you would call for a trial for treason.

By the way, now that Obama has given you the welfare you wanted are you going to vote for him?

You even have some Americans suffering from anti-Americanism...want to take their country down because they believe in world government..:roll:


You must be referring to Reagan because he was president of the world government World Federalist League and George Bush, Sr who called for a New World Order.

 

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But unlike you, I at least apply my principles on a consistent basis.

Except when it comes to silly insulting posts....

The far right loonies on this forum persist in calling me liberal or commie or some other sh|t because they are too stupid and too narrow minded to read what has been posted. They live in their own little mindless world and refuse to see the light of truth.

Something you have perpetually cried to the mods about, year after year.

The credibility expressed in your posts, has the consistency of warm jello.
 

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It's amazing how those American Liars always seem to get asked for their blood soaked American Dollars when some third world sh!thole gets hit by an earthquake or a flood.

Judging most of your posts oceanbreeze I'd say the smell from here stinks more like cesspool and you are just another one of those rabid nitwits who buys all this garbage hook line and sinker.
 

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It's amazing how those American Liars always seem to get asked for their blood soaked American Dollars when some third world sh!thole gets hit by an earthquake or a flood.
Not to mention, as ITN so aptly proved long ago. American citizens, per capita, give more to charity than any other nation.
 

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Today you attack him for this but you failed to do it with Bush when he gave away trillions in welfare to the rich and when he started those wars.

Wrong... thanks for playing!

Check my posts on corporate welfare and Iraq.


Ultimately you people stopped supporting Bush's wars. But only after it was proven he lied about WMD. But if you were really principled, you would call for a trial for treason.

How was it proven that he lied?

By the way, now that Obama has given you the welfare you wanted are you going to vote for him?

Im not on welfare... then I'd be all for Obama if I was. Someone has to pay for it.
 

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Since when is it "anti american" if folks consider other theories, ideas and information besides what the USG spews out to the dumbed down public who believe every lie they are told as gospel.??

Since when did free thinking become "anti american"??? Seems that freedom of thought, expression , and questioning the information one is fed is one of the basic principles on which the nation was created.

Furthermore.........why is it ok to be anti muslim (for most of the prejudiced americans ) and not ok to be anti american. Both are nothing more than some silly generalizations. and mean absolutely NOTHING.

What IS important is the behavior of the US .....to its own population and to the world at large. We have seen decades of atrocities committed by the US on the planet and within its own borders.........and yet most give these a pass because the US created a PHONY IMAGE of being a tolerant, humanitarian, just, and principled nation. The myth has evolved through time and is believed by many. Fortunately .........we are in the midst of the grand awakening. And WOW......the US is NOT a super nation with all the attitubes it assigned to itself. It is a nation, like others on the planet with its own ills, wonders, problems and that is the reality that is starting to come home.

And indeed..........the truth of the US actions are seldom as they are conveyed and promoted by the media.

when people stop theorizing, THINKING., questioning, discussing .......they will have assumed full robotic qualities and those in leadership will have a plliable population it will be able to manipulate as it wishes.
 

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Since when is it "anti american" if folks consider other theories, ideas and information besides what the USG spews out to the dumbed down public who believe every lie they are told as gospel.??

Since when did free thinking become "anti american"??? Seems that freedom of thought, expression , and questioning the information one is fed is one of the basic principles on which the nation was created.

Furthermore.........why is it ok to be anti muslim (for most of the prejudiced americans ) and not ok to be anti american. Both are nothing more than some silly generalizations. and mean absolutely NOTHING.

What IS important is the behavior of the US .....to its own population and to the world at large. We have seen decades of atrocities committed by the US on the planet and within its own borders.........and yet most give these a pass because the US created a PHONY IMAGE of being a tolerant, humanitarian, just, and principled nation. The myth has evolved through time and is believed by many. Fortunately .........we are in the midst of the grand awakening. And WOW......the US is NOT a super nation with all the attitubes it assigned to itself. It is a nation, like others on the planet with its own ills, wonders, problems and that is the reality that is starting to come home.

And indeed..........the truth of the US actions are seldom as they are conveyed and promoted by the media.

when people stop theorizing, THINKING., questioning, discussing .......they will have assumed full robotic qualities and those in leadership will have a plliable population it will be able to manipulate as it wishes.

You mean stop spreading misinformation and bull crap theories.
 

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It's amazing how those American Liars always seem to get asked for their blood soaked American Dollars when some third world sh!thole gets hit by an earthquake or a flood.

Judging most of your posts oceanbreeze I'd say the smell from here stinks more like cesspool and you are just another one of those rabid nitwits who buys all this garbage hook line and sinker.

You have been brainwashed completely.......having bought into the MYTH of AMERICA and how it self grandized itself. It is sad that this is your reaction : ie. poster bashing in the ugliest way.........instead of THINKING about what you write. ( which is stench at its worst and some of the most NON THINKING trash on here. What ever happened to independant thought. ANd why the fanatical NEED TO DEFEND the US as blindly as you do?

You mean stop spreading misinformation and bull crap theories.

really?? and who appointed YOU the all factual, all knowing , all sensible, all logical non theoretical supreme but militant governor of the forum. ??? Do you have NO ::REGARD for freedom of ideas, and respect for others???

Do all theories have to go through YOU for verification??? Would that include those by Stephen Hawkings too??


why are you so afraid of ideas different from yours???
 

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Since when is it "anti american" if folks consider other theories, ideas and information besides what the USG spews out to the dumbed down public who believe every lie they are told as gospel.??
It isn't. It is however to keep spewing the same generalized drivel, over and over.

Since when did free thinking become "anti american"???
That's funny, you think you're a free thinker.

Furthermore.........why is it ok to be anti muslim (for most of the prejudiced americans ) and not ok to be anti american.
It isn't. But that's just your anti Americanism making up more BS.

Both are nothing more than some silly generalizations.
I agree completely.

and mean absolutely NOTHING.
Which is why your posts are considered spam.

when people stop theorizing, THINKING., questioning, discussing .......they will have assumed full robotic qualities and those in leadership will have a plliable population it will be able to manipulate as it wishes.
Or when they grasp every silly theory without ever scrutinizing it, but instead spread it as if was gospel. They have assumed full robotic qualities.

poster bashing in the ugliest way.........
Geeze, how come gopher didn't get that lecture?

Oops, your facade is slipping!

 

EagleSmack

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What IS important is the behavior of the US .....to its own population and to the world at large. We have seen decades of atrocities committed by the US on the planet and within its own borders.........and yet most give these a pass because the US created a PHONY IMAGE of being a tolerant, humanitarian, just, and principled nation. The myth has evolved through time and is believed by many. Fortunately .........we are in the midst of the grand awakening. And WOW......the US is NOT a super nation with all the attitubes it assigned to itself. It is a nation, like others on the planet with its own ills, wonders, problems and that is the reality that is starting to come home.

And indeed..........the truth of the US actions are seldom as they are conveyed and promoted by the media.

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No anti-Americanism here boys and girls.

Move along.... :)
 

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A lot of us above the 49th don't happen to like everything that happens south of the border..

But for most of us...it's not an obsession:lol:
Nor do we need to grasp hold of every silly utterance to bash the US with.

US foreign policy has enough flaws, without having to make it up.
 

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A Parasite On The World

By Paul Craig Roberts


August 12, 2011 "
Information Clearing House" --If Russian prime minister Putin’s recent description of America as “a parasite on the world” was reported by the US media, little doubt but that most Americans were infuriated. We are the virtuous people. Without us good guys to police the world there would be mayhem and wars everywhere, not merely the ones we started in the Middle East, Asia, and North Africa. Without the American white hats people everywhere would be starving and dying from natural disasters. It is us chosen ones who provide the rescue operations and good deeds. How dare the former KGB monster to slander our country!

Is it merely a coincidence that on August 11 the Swiss announced that they were discarding their monetary constitution that has prevented inflation in Switzerland and that has made their currency a safe haven for people everywhere who desired to protect their wealth, both small and large, from the predatory inflation practices of their own governments? Or is the Swiss announcement a result of America’s financial irresponsibility, the behavior of a parasite?

The Swiss said that they are forced to violate their monetary constitution, because the irresponsible practices of the United States and European Union monetary authorities are driving so many dollars and euros into Swiss francs that the franc has appreciated to astronomical heights and is threatening Switzerland with the collapse of their export markets and Gross Domestic Product.


*APaul Craig Roberts: US Parasite On The World? :* Information Clearing House News

the greatest american LIE is the one(s) it has been feeding to itself about how humanitarian, wonderful, and compassionate they are. Also , how much they are needed to help the world ( via wars and aggression of course), and police the world...(when they can't even police themselves) and of course just how superior they are to everyone else on the planet. Is that the same kind of lie Germany spewed to the germans , as it went along destroying any group that did not fit their elite criteria???

Folks can't learn from history ........they just revise it to suit their own ideology. and continue to find ways of justifying the most horrific acts to one another.





A lot of us above the 49th don't happen to like everything that happens south of the border..

But for most of us...it's not an obsession:lol:

so, why bother making such a remark. It adds NOTHING to the conversation.