The enthusiasm leads to the idolatry

darkbeaver

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Tax-slave, brilliant, like your kindred Einstein!
May God let you lose and set the tax-collectors on you, amen!

Da sleeper, may God make you sleep without awaking again, amen!
I will not be sorry for the gang of the stubborn: the enemy of God.

Hello E.S, I don't think you're as familiar with God as you think. A real believer would forgive those two and pray for thier souls, but you chose hell. Yer off my Christmas list.
 

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Where ist der idolatreen?
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I have some raw materials...to be delivered
 

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Hello E.S, I don't think you're as familiar with God as you think. A real believer would forgive those two and pray for thier souls, but you chose hell. Yer off my Christmas list.

How can I forgive them while one of them reviled God, and the other reviled the Quran interpreter? See their replies #11 and #14
Had anyone of them reviled me personally, I might have forgiven them. And in fact, I shouldn't.

My grandfather never denied Moses.

Haven't I told you they were bewildered in the wilderness of Sinai for forty years, because they disobeyed Moses and rebelled against God's command? Or are you stubborn to this also?
http://quran-ayat.com/conflicts/english2.htm#Their_Rebellion_against_Their_Prophet_
quran-ayat.com/conflicts/english2.htm#Their_Rebellion_against_Their_Prophet_
 
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Haven't I told you they were bewildered in the wilderness of Sinai for forty years, because they disobeyed Moses and rebelled against God's command? Or are you stubborn to this also?

My grandfather never went to Sinai. I'm not being stubborn this time. I simply know my grandfather and you don't.
 

darkbeaver

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How can I forgive them while one of them reviled God, and the other reviled the Quran interpreter? See their replies #11 and #14
Had anyone of them reviled me personally, I might have forgiven them. And in fact, I shouldn't.



Haven't I told you they were bewildered in the wilderness of Sinai for forty years, because they disobeyed Moses and rebelled against God's command? Or are you stubborn to this also?
http://quran-ayat.com/conflicts/english2.htm#Their_Rebellion_against_Their_Prophet_
quran-ayat.com/conflicts/english2.htm#Their_Rebellion_against_Their_Prophet_

How can they revile God and not revile you personally? You are self professed to be of and one with God. When God forgives you have no alternative but to follow suit without exception nor hesitation. However if God initiates punishment you are obliged to follow the example with the same diligence.
In my opinion when doubt arises in cases like this you should exercise caution and wait for the signs of Gods intentions, for instance warts, facile distortion, vomiting frogs and voting for gender multiplication legislation. All of these conditions or any one observed in the doubter would give you licence to persue condemnation.
 

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How can you so confident, while the heavens and earth tremble with fear of Him?

Quran 7: 99, which means:
(Do they feel secure from God's designing, [which is in return of their designing against the believers]?

None feels secure of God's designing but only the people of the lost [because they do not believe the punishment may come on them.]
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More explanation is in the link:
http://quran-ayat.com/pret/7.htm#a7_99
quran-ayat.com/pret/7.htm#a7_99

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Among the major sins are:
1- Feeling secure of God's designing (in return of their wrong-doing and sins)
2- Losing hope of God's forgiveness.
3- Being despaired of God's mercy.
 

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Because I know exactly what the him is and was and how " the heavens and earth tremble with fear of him means. This fear is remembered from the last great extinction event on earth twelve thousand years ago.

Haven't I told you, you are desperate. So when you die, you will be certain the Quran is true and God's threats are true, but then your believing will be useless and will not be accepted.