The enthusiasm leads to the idolatry

Torch light

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The exaggeration in loving the Christ, the Christian saints, Jewish sages, Muslim imams -->
leads to the enthusiasm which leads to -->
glorifying these persons like God's glorifying, which will lead to -->
the idolatry (or associating these figures with God in the glorification and worship) ...

which is contrary to the first and the most important commandment: that is to worship God alone and to take none apart of God in the worship and glorification.

Quran 4: 171, which means:

[God – be glorified – addressed Christians:]

(171. People of the Book [: the Gospel], do not exaggerate in your religion nor say aught concerning God save the truth.

The Messiah: Jesus the son of Mary was but a messenger of God, and His "word", that He cast to Mary and a "spirit" [coming] from His [neighborhood],

so believe in God and [all] His messengers.

Say not "Trinity"; desist [from such words], it will be better for you; for God is One God; Far Exalted is He above having any son.

To Him belong all the [cosmic destructive factors] in the [gaseous] heavens, and [the sudden destructive factors] on earth.

God suffices for a One Who records your acts.)

More explanation of this great aya is in the link:
http://quran-ayat.com/pret/4.htm#a4_171
quran-ayat.com/pret/4.htm#a4_171
 
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Then God - be glorified - gave more proofs and arguments against considering Jesus as a god or a son of God or one part of a Trinity, so He said in the following aya

Quran 4: 172, which means:
(The Christ will never disdain to be a servant of God, neither will the angels favored [by God.]

Whosoever disdains to serve Him, and waxes proud, He will gather them altogether to Him [in the space.] )

More explanation is in the link:
http://quran-ayat.com/pret/4.htm#a4_172
quran-ayat.com/pret/4.htm#a4_172

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Afterwards, God - be glorified - explained what He will do to "the submissive" and "the disdainful"

Quran 4: 173, which means:
(As for those who believe and do righteous [deeds], He will give them their [due] wages, and increase them still more out of His bounty.

Whereas those who are disdainful and arrogant, He will punish them [in Hell] with a painful chastisement, and they shall not find for them, apart from God, any guardian or savior.)

More explanation is in the link:
http://quran-ayat.com/pret/4.htm#a4_172
quran-ayat.com/pret/4.htm#a4_172
 
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Your stubbornness is well-known even to prophets and even to God.

As I remember in the Torah (included in the Bible):
"And they stiffened their necks like the necks of their fathers and forefathers."
 
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Your grandfather denied, while you deny the true message of Moses, and follow the false image drawn to you by the rabbis.

This is why your ancestors were bewildered in the wilderness for forty years.

This is why the revelation was curtailed and stopped to come to the Children of Israel and was shifted to the Children of Ishmael: the Arab, so that afterwards no revelation will come to you anymore.

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The enthusiasm of Jews about Ezra son of Siraeh

After Ezra did his trick: writing some words with the invisible ink, then claiming that God Himself would write it with His might, then Jews were cheated by his trickery ... they thought it was true that God had written it .. so they started to glorify Ezra, some of them considered him at that time like Moses, and some said he was greater than Moses, until in their time some of them said Ezra was the son of God.

Quran 9: 30-31, which means:
[God – be glorified – explained about some kinds of the association with God, committed by Jews and Christians, so He said:]

30. The [past] Jews said: "Ezra is the son of God",

and [most of] Christians say: "The Christ is the son of God!" That is [merely untrue] words uttered by their mouths;

[in this respect] they but simulate what the disbelievers [among the pagan Arab] used to say, [and that was] before [the Arab];
may God be against them! How they do lie!

31. They have taken their rabbis and their monks and the Christ, Mary's son, as lords apart from God, when they were commanded [in the Torah, Psalms and Gospel] to serve but only One God; there is no god but He; glory be to Him above all [material creatures] that they associate [with Him.] )

More explanation is in the link:
http://quran-ayat.com/pret/9.htm#a9_30
quran-ayat.com/pret/9.htm#a9_30
 
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No, he is not; and you only lie knowingly and deliberately on account of your known bigotry.

I admit that no god but God alone without associate,
and that Mohammed is His servant and prophet.​

This is the slogan of Muslims, which anyone embraces the Islam religion should utter and believe, or else he will not be Muslim.

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Christians erect the statues of Jesus and his mother in their churches and homes:

Which is contrary to the First Commandment: that people should not make engraven things to worship and sanctify.
Which is in fact the exact idolatry no more or less.

N.B. The Cross itself is an idol, on which a statue of Jesus is inserted.
 
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taxslave

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Torch light said:
Then God - be glorified - gave more proofs and arguments against considering Jesus as a god or a son of God or one part of a Trinity, so He said in the following aya

Quran 4: 172, which means:
(The Christ will never disdain to be a servant of God, neither will the angels favored [by God.]

Whosoever disdains to serve Him, and waxes proud, He will gather them altogether to Him [in the space.] )

More explanation is in the link:
http://quran-ayat.com/pret/4.htm#a4_172
quran-ayat.com/pret/4.htm#a4_172

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Afterwards, God - be glorified - explained what He will do to "the submissive" and "the disdainful"

Quran 4: 173, which means:
(As for those who believe and do righteous [deeds], He will give them their [due] wages, and increase them still more out of His bounty.

Whereas those who are disdainful and arrogant, He will punish them [in Hell] with a painful chastisement, and they shall not find for them, apart from God, any guardian or savior.)

More explanation is in the link:
http://quran-ayat.com/pret/4.htm#a4_172
quran-ayat.com/pret/4.htm#a4_172
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Your gawd is a fake.All her followers screw sheep.
 
DaSleeper

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Another quran quoting nut-bar has joined the forum
 
Torch light

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Tax-slave, brilliant, like your kindred Einstein!
May God let you lose and set the tax-collectors on you, amen!

Da sleeper, may God make you sleep without awaking again, amen!
I will not be sorry for the gang of the stubborn: the enemy of God.
 
Murphy

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I'm not sure who Torch Light is, but he is not Muslim. He is a copycat, and not a good one as far as that goes. He is most likely Avro.

You have some issues, and you need help. Why you keep coming back and have multiple accounts is not clear, but it is odd.
 
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