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Ron in Regina

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I bet you and your drivers wish you could find backhaul even at a discount .
That doesn’t fit the economic model generally. Backhauls work when they are along the beaten path that you want to be on without diverging you dramatically off the route you need to be on.

Generally, most manufacturing for the things that we haul is One Direction from the US to Canada, and we’re highly specialized to do what we do. We have discovered that it makes more economic sense for us to run down, empty and come back loaded, unless it’s something that we can carry with the equipment that we have and we don’t have to diverge too far off the beaten path that we follow generally from Northwest Indiana to dealerships across Western Canada.

Working within the hours of service (HOS) rules, and Cabatage rules (no state to state deliveries for Canadians), there’s a finite amount of time behind the wheel before Driver has to stop for a minimum of 36 hours to reset his logbook (or try to run on recap hours, which are a pain in the ass), every load that we pick up in the US has to cross one international border (but not two, to keep Canadians from delivering to Alaska).

An American driver could deliver oranges from Florida to Montreal, and if he has a load from Vancouver to California….he can pick up an “incidental load” in Canada to get him from Montreal to Vancouver. It’s just the way things work.
You won find any in a stagnant economy .
They are rare when the economy isn’t stagnant, because we are highly specialized for what we actually do. Our equipment isn’t designed for general freight.
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Trump is nothing new .
Trump is not new, but he is a blatantly extreme example of what you’re trying to describe above.
 

Ron in Regina

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(Trumps rape of Venezuelan resources is gonna take a decade before it really produces, but that that’s Heavy crude similar to the oil sands in Canada and the clock is ticking)
U.S. President Donald Trump shared a news article that stated Canada is ‘on notice’ two days after the U.S. inked a “deal” with Venezuela over its oil reserves.
If I was in his (Carney’s) shoes, I would be attempting to twin pipelines and rail lines east to west and coast to coast inside of our own borders as quickly as logistically possible…on top of trying to maintain equitable relations with our largest trading partner while trying to diversify as much as possible, so we’re not dictated our politics from a foreign nation.
In a Truth Social post on Sunday, Trump shared a news article on the announcement with the headline: “Trump’s historic oil ‘deal’ with Venezuela realigns global energy and puts OPEC, Canada on notice.”
Canada isn’t trying to make Canada greater by invading and/or annexing through military or economic means Cuba or Venezuela or Greenland or America or Mexico or Botswana.
Hmmmm…I wonder what he means by this?:
Ottawa announced nearly $28 billion CAD in Counter-Tariffs on U.S. Goods, but has already left oil, gas, and other major resource exports off the list…so why is Trump stating what he’s stating in the link? What’s that motivation?
 

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That doesn’t fit the economic model generally. Backhauls work when they are along the beaten path that you want to be on without diverging you dramatically off the route you need to be on.

Generally, most manufacturing for the things that we haul is One Direction from the US to Canada, and we’re highly specialized to do what we do. We have discovered that it makes more economic sense for us to run down, empty and come back loaded, unless it’s something that we can carry with the equipment that we have and we don’t have to diverge too far off the beaten path that we follow generally from Northwest Indiana to dealerships across Western Canada.

Working within the hours of service (HOS) rules, and Cabatage rules (no state to state deliveries for Canadians), there’s a finite amount of time behind the wheel before Driver has to stop for a minimum of 36 hours to reset his logbook (or try to run on recap hours, which are a pain in the ass), every load that we pick up in the US has to cross one international border (but not two, to keep Canadians from delivering to Alaska).

An American driver could deliver oranges from Florida to Montreal, and if he has a load from Vancouver to California….he can pick up an “incidental load” in Canada to get him from Montreal to Vancouver. It’s just the way things work.

They are rare when the economy isn’t stagnant, because we are highly specialized for what we actually do. Our equipment isn’t designed for general freight.
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Trump is not new, but he is a blatantly extreme example of what you’re trying to describe above.
Not really , he is just a convienent whipping boy to keep Canadians wound up . Won’t the Canadians proposed tariffs affect your industries volumes ? Sounds like Carney is shooting you in the foot .
 

Ron in Regina

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Not really , he is just a convienent whipping boy to keep Canadians wound up . Won’t the Canadians proposed tariffs affect your industries volumes ?
Absolutely! So far they haven’t directly (These are finished vehicles) but it’s coming, I’m assuming, as the input costs for manufacturing (steel, aluminum, etc…) go up for these finish products the prices will go up, and the price of diesel is definitely up, and the repair costs on parts is going up, squeezing from many directions. Then there’s the whole less disposable income for the customers of the dealerships we deliver to, etc…
Sounds like Carney is shooting you in the foot .
Sounds like both Trump and Carney are both shooting us in the foot. One is reacting to the other, and the spill off damage is affecting us all, and will incrementally the longer this stupidity and strong arm coercive tactics continue.
 

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Absolutely! So far they haven’t directly (These are finished vehicles) but it’s coming, I’m assuming, as the input costs for manufacturing (steel, aluminum, etc…) go up for these finish products the prices will go up, and the price of diesel is definitely up, and the repair costs on parts is going up, squeezing from many directions. Then there’s the whole less disposable income for the customers of the dealerships we deliver to, etc…

Sounds like both Trump and Carney are both shooting us in the foot. One is reacting to the other, and the spill off damage is affecting us all, and will incrementally the longer this stupidity and strong arm coercive tactics continue.
It used to be economical to buy an RV in Washington or California and go through the importing and registration etc. yourself or with a broker . Those of course were used vehicles . I wonder if that market will start back up .
 
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Ron in Regina

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It used to be economical to buy an RV in Washington or California and go through the importing and registration etc. yourself or with a broker . Those of course were used vehicles . I wonder if that market will start back up .
We do haul these for private Canadian purchasers as well, but when they use a commercial carrier (trucking company), they also have to use a commercial Canadian broker (dems da rules), but it must be economical to some extent still, or it wouldn’t be happening but it’s all from (not to) the U.S. for whatever reason.

Very rarely is it from Canada to the United States with a used RV, due to the strength of their dollar comparatively, though we do see this with the high-end horse trailers (horse/living compartment) that originally come from southern Michigan.

(If a private purchaser buys an RV in the US to ship to Canada, as long as they haul it across the border themselves and are present at the border when the unit crosses, they could do this without a Canadian broker)

The one I’m working on right now as a side deal, the guy bought a destination unit in Minnesota for cheap cheap, but he does not have the drivers license endorsement himself to haul up his own RV, nor is his truck capable of hauling this destination unit.
 

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We do haul these for private Canadian purchasers as well, but when they use a commercial carrier (trucking company), they also have to use a commercial Canadian broker (dems da rules), but it must be economical to some extent still, or it wouldn’t be happening but it’s all from (not to) the U.S. for whatever reason.

Very rarely is it from Canada to the United States with a used RV, due to the strength of their dollar comparatively, though we do see this with the high-end horse trailers (horse/living compartment) that originally come from southern Michigan.

(If a private purchaser buys an RV in the US to ship to Canada, as long as they haul it across the border themselves and are present at the border when the unit crosses, they could do this without a Canadian broker)

The one I’m working on right now as a side deal, the guy bought a destination unit in Minnesota for cheap cheap, but he does not have the drivers license endorsement himself to haul up his own RV, nor is his truck capable of hauling this destination unit.
Sounds like your help is worth the cost .
 
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Ron in Regina

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U.S. President Donald Trump shared a news article that stated Canada is ‘on notice’ two days after the U.S. inked a “deal” with Venezuela over its oil reserves.
Rory Johnston, oil market analyst at Toronto-based Commodity Context, said Venezuela has historically faced challenges getting its product to market and called Mr. Trump’s claim that the ‘deal’ will amount to 65 billion barrels coming under U.S. control a “red herring.”
In a Truth Social post on Sunday, Trump shared a news article on the announcement with the headline: “Trump’s historic oil ‘deal’ with Venezuela realigns global energy and puts OPEC, Canada on notice.
“Despite Venezuela having these massive claimed reserves, they currently produce only about a million barrels a day,” he said. In comparison, Canada produces over 5.3 million barrels of crude oil per day.
Hmmmm…I wonder what he means by this?:
Regardless, for the Canadian crude industry, the effect of the U.S.-Venezuela partnership could eventually be an “incremental” increase in competition with the oil flowing into the U.S.’s Gulf Coast, said Mr. Johnston.
Ottawa announced nearly $28 billion CAD in Counter-Tariffs on U.S. Goods, but has already left oil, gas, and other major resource exports off the list…so why is Trump stating what he’s stating in the link? What’s that motivation?
This shift will likely result in “slightly worse oil prices for Canada, all else equal,” Mr. Johnston said, adding that declines will probably be “in the ballpark of $4 to $5 dollars a barrel.” Canadian crude is similar in quality to Venezuela’s.
Trumps Venezuela ‘deal’ announcement comes nearly nine months after the U.S. military at Mr. Trump’s direction carried out an operation to capture Venezuela’s former leader Nicolás Maduro and spirit him to the United States to face federal narcoterrorism and drug trafficking charges, and installing acting President Delcy Rodríguez in his place.
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A U.S.-Venezuela oil ‘deal’ has been announced by President Trump and Interim President Delcy Rodríguez. The public knows virtually nothing about the details of the agreement — nor do I, a Special Adviser to Venezuelan Congressman Antonio Ecarri on Economic, Monetary, and Energy Affairs. This deal was clearly arrived at in secrecy, with no public debate, and signed under duress. Therefore, it is illegitimate and probably illegal.
The ‘deal’ would give the U.S. 55% of the new company’s effective output, split between equity ownership and guaranteed at-cost off-take. Who’s paying for this, and what’s the timeline?
 

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Gotta do something as opposed to outright capitulation. If you were in Carney’s shoes at this point, what would you do? Try to diversify knowing that the results are going to be years down the road (?) or bend over and lube up the entire country?

(Trumps rape of Venezuelan resources is gonna take a decade before it really produces, but that that’s Heavy crude similar to the oil sands in Canada and the clock is ticking)

If I was in his shoes, I would be attempting to twin pipelines and rail lines east to west and coast to coast inside of our own borders as quickly as logistically possible…on top of trying to maintain equitable relations with our largest trading partner while trying to diversify as much as possible, so we’re not dictated our politics from a foreign nation.

Dude is getting to sit in the big chair because he came in on a platform of standing up for Canada (I still would’ve voted for Poilievre), and now it’s time to put up or shut up.
Unfortunately, that goes against his grain & it will never happen. Carney is lying thru his teeth about pipelines but I'll be the first to bite my tongue if any actual pipelines go thru.
 
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