The difference between rape and theft?

White_Unifier

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I would never leave my wallet on the dashboard and door unlocked while leaving my car unattended. It's not because I believe that doing so would excuse a thief morally. It's not because I believe that the responsibility to prevent theft lies entirely in my hands and that the potential thief bears no responsibility for his actions if I'm careless.

It's quite simply because I don't want to get robbed.

I have sometimes read feminists looking down on women who choose to not get drunk or who choose to dress modestly for example because by making that choice they are supposedly excusing would-be rapists.

Have these feminists not considered that maybe these women just don't want to get raped and so are taking reasonable precautions to reduce at least somewhat the risk of that happening with no intention of communicating that to get drunk or dress immodestly would somehow excuse rape any more than leaving the wallet on the dashboard and the car door unlocked would excuse theft?

In the end, what's the difference between a woman who dresses and drinks modestly and a person who hides his wallet and locks his door?
 
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White_Unifier

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Theft is taking something that you don't want to lose.

My point was this. If a man leaves his wallet on the dashboard and his car door unlocked, while people might accuse him of being careless or irresponsible, no one would suggest that his carelessness somehow excuse the thief.

If a woman dresses modestly and chooses to not drink at a bar, some would accuse her of being guilty of somehow excusing a would-be rapist by taking her safety into her own hands. Yet no one would ever accuse a man who hides his wallet and locks his car door of somehow excusing the would-be thief. Why the double-standard?
 
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gerryh

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I would never leave my wallet on the dashboard and door unlocked while leaving my car unattended. It's not because I believe that doing so would excuse a thief morally. It's not because I believe that the responsibility to prevent theft lies entirely in my hands and that the potential thief bears no responsibility for his actions if I'm careless.

It's quite simply because I don't want to get ribbed.

I have sometimes read feminists looking down on women who choose to not get drunk or who choose to dress modestly for example because by making that choice they are supposedly excusing would-be rapists.

Have these feminists not considered that maybe these women just don't want to get raped and so are taking reasonable precautions to reduce at least somewhat the risk if that happening with no intention of communicating that to get drunk or dress immodestly would somehow excuse rape any more than leaving the wallet on the dashboard and the car door unlocked would excuse theft?

In the end, what's the difference between a woman who dresses and drinks modestly and a person who hides his wallet and locks his door?


You are honestly comparing rape with theft? Seriously? Sad.
 

White_Unifier

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You are honestly comparing rape with theft? Seriously? Sad.

No. I was comparing theft prévention with rape prevention. Somehow, if a woman takes precautions against rape, she's supposedly excusing a would-be rapist. Yet if a man locks his car door, no one would accuse him of somehow excusing a would-be thief.

Rape is a violent crime. Theft is not necessarily so.

True. But if a man locks his car door, people would say it's normal. But if a woman dresses modestly or chooses not to drink, she gets accused if somehow giving a would-be rapist a victory. Why the double standard? Why can a man take reasonable precautions and not be judged, but a woman is judged at every turn?
 

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Food for thought..
 

tay

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I would never leave my wallet on the dashboard and door unlocked while leaving my car unattended. It's not because I believe that doing so would excuse a thief morally. It's not because I believe that the responsibility to prevent theft lies entirely in my hands and that the potential thief bears no responsibility for his actions if I'm careless.

It's quite simply because I don't want to get robbed.

I have sometimes read feminists looking down on women who choose to not get drunk or who choose to dress modestly for example because by making that choice they are supposedly excusing would-be rapists.

Have these feminists not considered that maybe these women just don't want to get raped and so are taking reasonable precautions to reduce at least somewhat the risk of that happening with no intention of communicating that to get drunk or dress immodestly would somehow excuse rape any more than leaving the wallet on the dashboard and the car door unlocked would excuse theft?

In the end, what's the difference between a woman who dresses and drinks modestly and a person who hides his wallet and locks his door?
Women can dress modestly if they want to........


 

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Someone ask him how he feels about stealing candy from a baby.......


If Oklahoma state GOP Rep. George Faught has his way, rape will be on the path to being legal in the state. At least that’s what rapists are hoping for after Faught made a frightening statement on the subject during a debate on House Bill 1549, which restricts abortion.

Democratic Rep. Cory Williams masterfully cornered Faught during the hearing by asking him if he believes rape and incest are the “will of God” since the legislation has no exceptions for either, meaning women would be forced to give birth to their rapist’s baby.

Faught’s reply is absolutely appalling and demonstrates once again why women should never vote for Republicans, especially Republicans who want to base our laws on the Bible.

“Well, you know, if you read the Bible, there’s actually a couple circumstances where that happened,” Faught said. “The Lord uses all circumstances. I mean, you can go down that path, but it’s a reality unfortunately.”

Faught literally just used the Bible to justify rape. And then he used it to justify incest.

“Same answer,” Faught replied. Then he argued that Williams’ questions have nothing to do with the bill. Williams vehemently disagreed and explained why.

“You are proffering a divine intervention as the reason why you won’t do that and so I think it is very important,” Williams said before demanding Faught repeat his answer again. “This body wants to know — and myself personally — whether you believe rape and incest are actually the will of God.”

Faught obliged and stated that rape and incest are God’s will because God is sovereign over all activities that happen.

Oklahoma Republican Declares That Rape Is The


www.youtube.com/watch?v=DPkEa_E9eIo
 

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I have sometimes read feminists looking down on women who choose to not get drunk or who choose to dress modestly for example because by making that choice they are supposedly excusing would-be rapists.



You have read feminists looking down on women who don't get drunk? Where have you read that?
 

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Someone ask him how he feels about stealing candy from a baby.......


If Oklahoma state GOP Rep. George Faught has his way, rape will be on the path to being legal in the state. At least that’s what rapists are hoping for after Faught made a frightening statement on the subject during a debate on House Bill 1549, which restricts abortion.

Democratic Rep. Cory Williams masterfully cornered Faught during the hearing by asking him if he believes rape and incest are the “will of God” since the legislation has no exceptions for either, meaning women would be forced to give birth to their rapist’s baby.

Faught’s reply is absolutely appalling and demonstrates once again why women should never vote for Republicans, especially Republicans who want to base our laws on the Bible.

“Well, you know, if you read the Bible, there’s actually a couple circumstances where that happened,” Faught said. “The Lord uses all circumstances. I mean, you can go down that path, but it’s a reality unfortunately.”

Faught literally just used the Bible to justify rape. And then he used it to justify incest.

“Same answer,” Faught replied. Then he argued that Williams’ questions have nothing to do with the bill. Williams vehemently disagreed and explained why.

“You are proffering a divine intervention as the reason why you won’t do that and so I think it is very important,” Williams said before demanding Faught repeat his answer again. “This body wants to know — and myself personally — whether you believe rape and incest are actually the will of God.”

Faught obliged and stated that rape and incest are God’s will because God is sovereign over all activities that happen.

Oklahoma Republican Declares That Rape Is The


www.youtube.com/watch?v=DPkEa_E9eIo

So using that logic murder is legal as well. Shooting Caught would become an act of gawd.
 

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You're talking about victim shaming when it has to do with rape. I haven't heard women being shamed for NOT drinking to excess and risking their safety.

You may have read about some zealot feminists who've attempted to articulate that it does not matter what a woman is doing, non consensual sex is rape.

failure on their part.

There is no victim shaming when it comes to possession being stolen.

Rape causes emotional issues that can last for a life time. Your wallet being stolen does not.
 

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You're talking about victim shaming when it has to do with rape. I haven't heard women being shamed for NOT drinking to excess and risking their safety.

You may have read about some zealot feminists who've attempted to articulate that it does not matter what a woman is doing, non consensual sex is rape.

failure on their part.

There is no victim shaming when it comes to possession being stolen.

Rape causes emotional issues that can last for a life time. Your wallet being stolen does not.
Don't be too hard on him. Machjo's on women's side here. He wants rape to be punished with significant fines, prolly up to a hundred bucks. Maybe even points on your license! Unless it's fornication, and then both the victim and the attacker get hit.