Or selling beer to minors. Who says they are going to drink it? Could be used to wash cars
.It's just legal liability. It has nothing to do with a Nannystate.
The death of personal responsibility
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Of course there have been deaths connected with every type of activity and probably every type of article from a garden hose to a pair of roller skates and when it is a child involved it is particularly sad. But it is a fact of life and the main prevention is going to be from the individual him/herself. We are becoming too sanitized. All of us who are still around in the latter stages of our lives have survived all kinds of things without very much being banned. Remember getting our pant leg caught up in the chain on our bike and going for a spill and scraping our knees and elbows or the soapbox without brakes speeding down a hill out of control amongst traffic. Were these things banned? We used to chew on pencils painted with lead paint..................who gave it a second thought? How many died from it? Car seats are a modern invention. My dad had on old Dodge sedan in which the back seat was long gone..............my seat was a round block of wood about 16" in diameter and about 18" long sitting on the floorboards, not secured to anything. I'm still here. No one ever gave a thought to what a missile this could be in an accident. One of the shortcuts to a lot of places when we were kids were the railway tracks, no one died. Of course the one big difference between then and now is the media. I guess things are much better now for 1% of the population and a lot worse for 99%.
That too is a distinct possibility ..........................drink more than they can handle then puke all over the car! :lol:
Or selling beer to minors. Who says they are going to drink it? Could be used to wash cars
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That too is a distinct possibility ..........................drink more than they can handle then puke all over the car! :lol:
"Garage sale sellers responsible for product safety, Health Canada says"
Too bad gov'ts don't think they should be culpable for anything that screws up because of them.
Too bad gov'ts don't think they should be culpable for anything that screws up because of them.
Lots of people make a decent dollar- tax free - checking garage sales for good bargains then they have their own and resell - and unknown to many - Farmers Markets - people have been nabbed selling organic vegetables that they bought wholesale from a dealer. Good markup on that.
I gather you didn't get into an accident when your old man was driving and you were sitting on that block of wood. How about you take the rear seat out of your car, throw your grandkid in on a block of wood, and then rear end someone doing 30kmph and we'll see what happens to the kid. Should be fine though, right? You survived. :roll:
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Any person with a room temperature I.Q. could tell from what I wrote that I recognize the potential hazards. Of course with traffic conditions and higher speeds today, I wouldn't consider it. We weren't like your mainstream family of today, we lived in the sticks and had no money. :lol:
What higher speeds? I suggested a mere 30 kmph. The point is, just because we didn't have the safety measures in years gone by, doesn't mean that the safety measures we have now are a waste. The fact is they save lives. Car seats save lives, seatbelts save lives, helmets save lives. These are indisputable facts. Just because we didn't use them in the past and didn't get hurt doesn't mean someone else didn't. Some one that may be alive today if they had had the safety equipment then that we have now. Your continued "when I was growing up" straw man argument is just so much bullshyte.
This legislation is obviously needed as there are far too many idiots out there that come up with the "when I was growing up" argument and will sell unsafe equipment because "when they were growing up".
You won't get any argument from me and I don't know why you think you would. I just stated that we are "over sanitized" today and the majority of us survived through "less safe" conditions. Of course you are safer wearing a helmet while cycling (I went over the handle bars at age 5 "doubling" and was knocked out for an hour) Not a pleasant experience.
I don't think so.............gadgets only contribute so much in keeping people safe, far less than things like being aware of the dangers and paying attention to what you are doing. Sure buy a car seat and use it properly, but you don't need to run out once a week to buy a so called better one. Getting back to the original discussion of yard sales, one wise poster pointed out that a car seat purchased at a yard sale may well be for a very different purpose than its original use.
Nobody, including this legislation is stating OR implying that one needs to go out and buy a new carseat every week. The legislation is to protect people in the same way other consumer protection legislation is used. All it is doing is extending the legal liability to EVERYONE that sells or gives away a car seat or other product that has safety attached to it.. Not just the retail store.
Has nobody in the brain-dead asylum on parliament hill ever heard the adage "BUYER BEWARE"
You know this is the kind of stupidity from a govt that makes me want to go to Ottawa and just start shooting. I suppose next will be a law that if we don't rat out our neighbor for selling junk on a Saturday morning we will be prosecuted too. I would be quite willing to up the ante to multiple murder of numerous dumb-f*ck, ignorant, Orwellian politicians if the govt wants to prosecute me under this law.
I'm sorry but if somebody is dumb enough to buy a 15 year old half busted car seat and strap their child into it then it should be them prosecuted and not the one who sold it off their lawn. We are not talking about selling snake-oil to the mentally handicapped here we are talking about reasonably intelligent people buying used crap out of a carport.
The better course of action from the govt would have been an ad campaign with a simple statement 'use care and caution when buying second hand products'.
I can only imagine the amount of costs enforcing and administering this most f*cking stupid of policies will absorb. Think about the current backlog in courtrooms and toss in a couple of million law-suits and crown prosecutions just because someone bought an old matchbox car with lead paint at a flea market.
Seriously folks, this is the kind of bullsh*t that makes people go postal. On the brighter side it should also lead to the en-mass revolt needed to tear down this abhorration we call a democracy of the people.
WELCOME TO 1984....BIG BROTHER IS WATCHING YOU!!!!
Health Canada is putting out instructional videos (that no one will see) to help educate vendors of used goods. Hopefully they'll spend a few million on a marketing blitz so that this "instructional video" will actually be seen.
It's legal liability, dictated by the State, to remove the responsibility of the purchaser.
Just for the record, there are a few exceptions, namely booze and tobacco... Coincidentally, sanctioned and regulated by the gvt - one might even say that they are the 'seller'.
The long and short of it is, there is no point in having a government body trying to keep our kids alive if we bind and gag them from doing their job. Kids die because of crap passed off to save a buck. Expired car seats, car seats that have been in accidents, cribs that no longer meet code...products people have deemed unfit for their own children but have no qualms about selling to someone else's. Buyer beware only goes so far when it comes to children.
There are, btw, simple ways of dealing with selling things that the gov. has deemed are unsafe (car seats do not apply, those are illegal to sell or trade no matter what)
"For doll use only, deemed unsafe for children by Health Canada" is one of the simplest. Feel free to buy it, I've made you aware it's unsafe.
There are, btw, simple ways of dealing with selling things that the gov. has deemed are unsafe (car seats do not apply, those are illegal to sell or trade no matter what)
"For doll use only, deemed unsafe for children by Health Canada" is one of the simplest. Feel free to buy it, I've made you aware it's unsafe.