Ahh, well we have a few bull horns for the Libs and Cons in here, maybe he was referring to that, as you say.
The Coalition Strikes!!!
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Ahh, well we have a few bull horns for the Libs and Cons in here, maybe he was referring to that, as you say.
I prefer to use the term "blow horns", with all the connotations it musters, lol.
Sorry Colpy. I couldn't pass that up.
Colpy, you are wrong about the minorities held by Harper. They are 300 and 400 days shorter than Liberal records years earlier. You are wordsmithing a bit. I know it has been said before by media but they also reported other lies given to them by the Conservatives in the past. This does not make Harper the worst Prime Minister to work a compromise, but he is probably close given having to get the GG to allow him to shut down the house all the when things get rough. He also didn't seem to be able to compromise his way out of being the first Prime Minister in history to be in contempt of parliament. Not looking too good there!!
There was ONE Liberal government that was, for a time, a minority........as I said before. It was run by the useless and insane Liberal William Lyon Mackenzie King between, I believe 1921 and 1925. It was NOT the longest running minority government, because it was NOT a minority throughout the entire term.
(I looked it up) The election was held on Dec. 6, 1921. " Initially the Liberal Party had a one seat minority but only until December 1922 when two Progressive members actually crossed the floor and joined the Liberal caucus giving the government a majority." That minority would be shorter than either of Harper's minorities.
" It maintained that majority until December 1923 when it lost two seats in by-elections returning it to a minority. It continued as a minority until November 1924 when the Liberals gained a seat in a by-election and became a majority again." Once again, a minority term shorter than either of Harper's minorities. Quotes from Wikipedia.
The two largest election to election minorities in Canadian history are the last two run Conservative minorities. Even if you take the Liberal government of 90 years ago as the longest minority (very questionable), Harper and the Conservatives have controlled the second and third longest.......
Any of the above facts blows your argument about Liberal compromise in minority completely out of the water.
By the way, the central part of your post is completely incoherent, aside from the name-calling. What are you talking about?
If it is prorogation, Chretien engaged in the practice 4 times.....there has been 105 prorogations since Confederation....it is an entirely legitimate practice......and it worked for Harper. The opposition re-thought its seditious little coalition plan when it recognized the outrage of the people.
What is not looking good is your grasp of the facts.
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GG is short for Governor General. I thought you might get that easier. You did concede on the length of these governments a bit. Liberal compromise is probably why people walked the floor and why Liberals won bi-elections way back when. Doesn't matter. Being not so good at something may be a source of pride for a Conservative but it is not for the other parties. They want to do it correctly with out the fear mongering. If you are not for us, you are against us and other such school ground bully tactics do not always work. If we tell the people that the other parties are going to do what we want to do, we will scare them into voting for us. that does not always work either. This is treating people with distain and disrespect. Not all people like that. The Conservatives say they have to have a majority to do what they want to do. Of course they do, they are sure not going to navigate that any other way looking back at their lack of skill in the house and all the things Harper has said in his past with the National Peoples Coalition. Coalition, Hmmm. Anyway it will all come down to how many people can you trick, if he is to get anything done, good or bad. The other parties don't operate like that, thus they are as a slightly right of centre / centre / left of centre group are always in the majority. Even in Progressive Conservative times of old that held true. Only lately has an ultra right-wing party formed government in Canada, and only in a weak minority role. If history means anything that is unlikely to change. Steven spots are starting to show now.
My friend, I know what the GG is............
I conceded nothing, I pointed out where you were incorrect......
EVERY party in Canada that has recently made it into Parliament is centrist in make up, so much so that their policies overlap. There is no "ultra right wing party" except in the deep dark recesses of your head.
It was the National Citizens Coalition, and it had nothing to do with seizing power in cahoots with separatists after misleading the Canadian people by blatantly lying about their intentions......which is exactly what the Liberals are planning. I suppose you call that "compromise".
If they want a coalition, if their backers want a coalition, say so NOW. Announce it........let us vote on it. Guess what? They lie instead, because to admit to the possibility of a coalition would be to hand Harper his majority. And ANYONE with an IQ higher than their shoe size knows that....
Ahhh......a "weak" minority??? The two longest in Canadian history? And the Conservative seat numbers expected to rise???
You are really suffering a myriad of delusions. Seriously.
BTW....from the horse's mouth, so to speak.....
Tory majority key to stopping sovereigntists: Harper - Canada Votes 2011 - CBC News
A little more???
Analysis: PQ demands for powers prelude to referendum | Full Comment | National Post
And what we DON"T need is a gov't in power that requires the support of the separatist BQ for everything........
Is that not blatantly obvious??????????
If you like your country, vote Conservative, give Harper a majority......
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Why don't the Conservatives just announce that they want to merge with the Bloc. They probably don't want to push Canadian citizens to hard to fast. They better let us get use to gutted health care and their I-pod tax first. Maybe they don't want us to know they are going to fire some more people. Like the head of the nuclear over sight agency, only later admitting she knew what she was doing. People at the CWB for doing their jobs properly were fired. They didn't alter documents with "not' or funnel millions of farmers dollars into places that it should not go. Example: Fraud committed by Harper's MP Baird and Clement in approving fraudulent projects and going ahead with fraudulent projects that had nothing to do with G8. With the CWB people, Harper later admitted they should not have been fired. Their severance came out of the farmers money pool and the new people Harper put in cost the farmer more money. A Conservative MP that he fired for no just cause, others I talked to that said they did not like their leader and were just riding out the rest of their careers. Trying hard to bite their tongues and not rock the boat. Maybe lies like, we will abolish the senate, but we have to load it with crooks first. Canadians can see this regime for what it is. A bunch of thugs. That's why their polls are dropping. The people want change pretty bad now. Voter apathy is a Conservatives friend. By the early results on the CBC Vote Compass, (over 10 percent of the voting public having gone through those motions already), it looks like the Conservatives don"t have the friends they use to have.
Ahh Excuse me?
The Bloc is a separatist party, determined to destroy the country. The Conservative party is a federal party, that serves the entire nation. It is the Liberals and the NDP that are currently hopping into the sack with the separatists, and it is the country that is going to get screwed.
The Conservative platform on health care is identical to the Liberal platform......continue 6% annual increases to the provinces. It was the Liberals that radically cut health care in the 90s, NOT the Conservatives.....it was also the Liberals that restored it, but the Conservatives have continued that, and will keep on doing so.
If you have knowledge of fraud, then I suggest you contact the appropriate law enforcement agency. Otherwise, you should STFU about criminal accusations.
The Liberals and NDP were HOWLING for Guergis to be fired. That's right, the Count and Layton BOTH were demanding she be thrown out, and Harper moved quickly to forestall scandal........as well, she was not fired from her job, she is still an MP, she was removed from caucus....an internal matter of the CPC, and no one else's concern.
The CBC Vote Compass was set up by a Liberal to reflect the Liberal attitude, and to direct the stupid to vote for the Liberal Party of Canada. It is simply another reason we must get rid of the CBC, as it is politically little more than a propaganda tool of the Liberal Party of Canada.
http://www.torontosun.com/comment/columnists/ezra_levant/2011/04/11/17956001.html
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Interesting concept. That would re-create the PC party of the Mulroney era.
Ah, yes. Tell me, when you have it on all the time, do you have the volume above 0?
SIMPLE.
Try it yourself. Go to the Compass, and enter totally neutral answers to all the questions.
You come out as a Liberal.
Hmmmmm.....that either means the brain-dead, without belief or principle are Liberals....or the test is biased.
Take your pick.
I had opted for the former, until I was told the designer was a Liberal campaign adviser for Ignatieff during his leadership run, and that questions in which the Liberal and Conservatives policies are identical direct the subject to the Liberals.
Read the article, then come back, and we will talk about it.
None of us are sovereign. It's long gone. I'm surprised some people still think Canada is an autonomous state.
I do.
I listen to a number of things...my favourite being "The Debaters" lol
Also The Current. The House. And the news.........the last being the most biased of the bunch.
You read the Toronto Sun.
You probably also listen to the conservative hi-jacked AM 640 Talk Radio.
Both of these outlets have indoctrinated countless more than a harmless online quiz.
Are you really that ****ing stupid????
I live in New Brunswick, I never heard of "AM 640", and I listen to the CBC or a local (also liberal) news and sports station for political opinion.
I do not read the Toronto sun, I read Ezra Levant, who is and has been a staunch fighter for free speech......Rick Mercer on Ezra....
YouTube - Ezra Levant : Political Analyst and Guest Speaker
And here is what is truly shows you up as an idiot:
The Sun, Ezra Levant, and talk radio are part of a DEBATE, you know, freedom of speech, the free exchange of ideas.......
The Election Compass pretends to be a tool helping people choose their party according to their opinions during an election campaign.....no debate involved....and it LIES.
GEEZUS, smarten the **** up.
Colpy, Levant is a self professed conservative. He wrote that ridiculous book about .. I'm not even going to plug him, but it was a failed attempt to cover up how bad the Alberta tar sands are.
The guy is the Canadian version of Glenn Beck.
He is eeeeeevil.
And I'm not too worried about an online quiz that doesn't really affect anything. I don't expect CBC to be right wing shills - they probably do lean a bit more to the reasonable side of the political spectrum. But by comparison, Levant and his crew spread some pretty dangerous propaganda that could be pretty harmful to the very land we are all committed to.
The people on the right are crazy man! Don't fall into that trap.
The guy is the Canadian version of Glenn Beck.
He is eeeeeevil.
And I'm not too worried about an online quiz that doesn't really affect anything. I don't expect CBC to be right wing shills - they probably do lean a bit more to the reasonable side of the political spectrum. But by comparison, Levant and his crew spread some pretty dangerous propaganda that could be pretty harmful to the very land we are all committed to.
The people on the right are crazy man! Don't fall into that trap.
Colpy...are you able to make up your own mind and read into politics yourself or do you need the voice of others rattling in your noggin to form an opinion?
No, you and the other idiots would rather buy oil from our enemies, in countries with no environmental nor labour protection.
Ethical Oil: The case for Canada's oilsands - Ezra Levant
I know you won't read it, because it might overload the piece of dental floss you call a brain.
Ezra is so dangerous that he and that terrorist Rick Mercer are buddies...lol