The Christian Lie :)

gerryh

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6 commandment broken.

Remember vi
You said if someone breaks a commandment they are not a Christian.
 

bluebyrd35

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6 commandment broken.

Remember vi
You said if someone breaks a commandment they are not a Christian.

Well, the 6th commandment in the Bible says kill or murder. How does one kill or murder that which the Bible itself does not consider a living soul/being?? Nowhere does the Bible accept a fetus or embryo as a living being before it draws it's first breath.
 

Nationhood

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So to counter his assertion, you invoke the same fallacy?
I never said I agreed with it (because I don't). I was merely bringing it up to show that he's not the only religious person to invoke that same fallacy to defend their religious faith.

Mentalfloss gets it.
 

VanIsle

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6 commandment broken.

Remember vi
You said if someone breaks a commandment they are not a Christian.
You're right. I did word it poorly. I did say a person who does not follow the ten commanments is not a christian. I'll say it how I really feel. I've already said that I think people should be called "good people" rather than christians because the ten commandments are things good people just do without holding a copy of the ten commandments in their pocket for reference. Thou shalt not kill. Tough one isn't it. If I am alone in my home and someone breaks in with intent to kill or harm me - should I stand back and allow that to happen because I believe in the ten commandments? I do not have access to something like a gun or any item a person would refer to as a weapon. Like any household, I have knives in the drawer. Would I use one to save my own life - yes I would. If I killed in the process, I would be breaking the commandments. I feel I could be forgiven for that because while I would have killed a person, I would not have planned that kill - I would not have committed murder nor would I have killed for the sake of revenge. My point being -sometimes choices have to be made and it's all up to the individual. The raped woman who decides not to keep the child she did not plan for has to make her own decision. Not every woman would give up the child. It's just so personal a decision IMO that we cannot judge a person for it. I am fortunate that I have never been in the position and am of an age that I never will be. I don't know anyone who has been in the position either so again - I cannot judge them.
 

mentalfloss

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While invoking the same fallacy...:roll:

Follow along carefully MF, you might figure out that I use specific words/wording, for a reason too.

Ninja Bear!
 

CDNBear

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Sorry I missed this...

I never said I agreed with it (because I don't). I was merely bringing it up to show that he's not the only religious person to invoke that same fallacy to defend their religious faith.
Like I said, invoked. I didn't say you agreed with it. Where did you get that idea from?

Mentalfloss gets it.
I'm sure he does, seeing as you both made the same mistake.
 

Colpy

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Just my two cents, but it seems to me there would be a lot less terrorist in the world when people admit that religion is BS.

Huh.....

Atheists, in the guise of Marxists, murdered 100 million people in the twentieth century.....

Wanna run that by me again?????
 

Cliffy

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Huh.....

Atheists, in the guise of Marxists, murdered 100 million people in the twentieth century.....

Wanna run that by me again?????
A common mistake by the religious is that just because people think religion is bunk doesn't mean they are atheists. I believe in the Creator and spirituality but I think religion breeds contempt for everybody who doesn't believe their brand of belief system. In other words: separation. To me spirituality is a belief in a deity without religious dogma. It is the dogma that is dangerous not the teachings behind it.
 

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A common mistake by the religious is that just because people think religion is bunk doesn't mean they are atheists. I believe in the Creator and spirituality but I think religion breeds contempt for everybody who doesn't believe their brand of belief system. In other words: separation. To me spirituality is a belief in a deity without religious dogma. It is the dogma that is dangerous not the teachings behind it.

Are you saying that everyone that has a particular religious belief has contempt for others that have a differing religious belief?
 

Cliffy

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Are you saying that everyone that has a particular religious belief has contempt for others that have a differing religious belief?
Not really, but it does seem to be the trend. I have talked with hundreds of people from the various Christian sects and very few were tolerant of others from different sects. I tried once to get all the various religious groups in the Quesnel area to gather together to discuss their similarities. Of course it never happened because the JWs would show up if the Mormons did and the Baptist would show if the Pentecostals did and.... and... You get my drift?
 

mentalfloss

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Bull****.

His very actions belie that idea.

He is insane.....if he thought he was a duck, would you be blaming Mallards????

roflmao

Let it go man. Even if he was insane, it doesn't excuse the muslim-hating, medieval christianism.
 

Colpy

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roflmao

Let it go man. Even if he was insane, it doesn't excuse the muslim-hating, medieval christianism.

Who is excusing it???

I think he should be hanged in the public square of Oslo.....sane or crazy. He knew it was wrong.

Even if you considered him sane, the problem is he made a leap to political Christianity........a philosophy dead since shortly after the Middle Ages........

That has absolutely nothing to do with Christian theology....read the New Testament.

And he denies in his statement any connection to the philosophy of Christianity.......

Completely unlike political Islam......as Islam at its core is political, with exhortations to war, domination, extermination of unbelievers, and Jew murder, Muslim killers are expecting their reward in heaven. They are completely in line with Muslim theology. Read the Koran and the hadith.

There has been a simple, peaceful non-political Christianity dominant in the world for hundreds of years.......while Islam spreads by the sword.

If you can't tell the difference.....well, never mind.
 

mentalfloss

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Completely unlike political Islam......as Islam at its core is political, with exhortations to war, domination, extermination of unbelievers, and Jew murder, Muslim killers are expecting their reward in heaven. They are completely in line with Muslim theology. Read the Koran and the hadith.

You should probably stick to the topic instead of using this crazy man's ideology as an excuse to slander muslims.

You're starting to sound a lot like him.
 

Colpy

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You should probably stick to the topic instead of using this crazy man's ideology as an excuse to slander muslims.

You're starting to sound a lot like him.

I did address the topic.....which you chose not to address :)

Even if you considered him sane, the problem is he made a leap to political Christianity........a philosophy dead since shortly after the Middle Ages........

That has absolutely nothing to do with Christian theology....read the New Testament.

And he denies in his statement any connection to the philosophy of Christianity.......