The casual arming of the idiot cousins in the country directly south of Canada.

[CDNBear]

So, your opinion actually coincides with mine??

I doubt it. I haven't thrown logic and critical thought to wind.

Good grief, not feeling well today are you.

I feel fine. You really should stop making things up. Somebody might confuse you for one of the authors you tout as factual.

Now should I be asking you to supply those hard facts?? You know make you prove your opinion.

Sure, that's how it works. Look up "The mysterious disappearance of the Iroquois." Here at CC or in Google.

LOL So you admit historians are not the factual source you have been touting but are basicly flawed by bias........

Just French ones with an agenda. You and your sources should be able to relate.

so what excuses do you have regarding the money trail used for rearming Germany uncovered by an economist??

He didn't uncover anything that I didn't already know. He just made up tenuous connections and a whole mess of fantasy.

If you weren't so woefully uneducated in the period, you wouldn't be so easily hoodwinked by authors who sell sensationalism, not history. Not to mention, you seem unable to differentiate between what is a factual event, as apposed to how a series thereof are connected. Which was the basis for the great big hint I gave you with "I worked for ThyssenKrupp. By your logic, I'm a Nazi supporter."

You know the laundered money used by certain American industries fed through different banks and countries. Those funds that were then used to supply materials to German subsiduaries that built those weapons and the funding of other companies that contributed to the rearmament.

You do realize that the use of the word rearmament, denotes a specific time period. One that really doesn't do your claims any good. Not that I have any hopes of you admitting your error, despite your subtle shift in time lines and claims.

Do you even acknowledge that helping to rearm Germany even played a part in WWII

Yep. Again, unlike you, I'm objective. But this isn't what you were claiming. Shall I post your claims verbatim?

I am glad to see you finally started to acknowledge the fact that the timeline matters, even if you aren't capable of actually admitting it out right. Your subtle shift in time line and claims, is obvious and pathetic.

What were you saying about the lengths someone would go, to win some imagined contest?

Oh I am curious....... because I am bilingual and can read, this explains what? other than I put the effort into learning a second language.

I have no idea what you're talking about here.

You really should avoid making up things. It just makes you look silly and desperate.

 

[bluebyrd35]

This is getting really boring, all these one line rantings, more or less about my intelligence, character, and prejudices. In my opinion, the money trail, Sutton produced is more believable, than those of historians who are basing their conclusions on the faulty memories and prejudices of those involved in an event. I maintain that an economist chasing down money trails is much more likely to find the truth than an historian who adds his biases to those that existed at the time of an event.

You don't like Sutton's conclusions, tough. So produce factual links, that actually proves them wrong. Proof, not simply based on another's opinion or what one believes is a "leap of fantasy" After all just look at the leap of fantasy of the curators of the Calliers Museum made.

Since I live 25 minutes from the Kanawake Reserve and have been to the Iroquois Powwow on the Mohawk reservation,several times, I was aware that the Iroquois confederacy was alive and well. Did you notice how many English institutions outside and inside of Quebec supported that stupid ruse?? Oh and hey many clans of those 5 nations that make up the Iroquois nation come from outside of Quebec/Canada. Kinda points out the biases that get into history eh?? LOL. Maybe they should have followed the money trail, instead of what makes it into the National Archives of Canada and the Canadian Museum of Civilization by way of historians.

Please note, not one remark about your intelligence, character or prejudices.

 

[CDNBear]

This is getting really boring, all these one line rantings, more or less about my intelligence, character, and prejudices. In my opinion, the money trail, Sutton produced is more believable, than those of historians who are basing their conclusions on the faulty memories and prejudices of those involved in an event. I maintain that an economist chasing down money trails is much more likely to find the truth than an historian who adds his biases to those that existed at the time of an event.

Irrelevant, not even Sutton makes the case for the US arming Germany during the war.

You don't like Sutton's conclusions, tough. So produce factual links, that actually proves them wrong. Proof, not simply based on another's opinion or what one believes is a "leap of fantasy" After all just look at the leap of fantasy of the curators of the Calliers Museum made.

If I really thought you'd change your mind, I would expend the energy.

But since I showed you the flaws in your links, using your very links, and you still haven't the ability to concede that there are some glaring issues there.

I have no doubt the truth could fall from the sky, land on your face and start to wiggle, and you'd still deny it.

Since I live 25 minutes from the Kanawake Reserve and have been to the Iroquois Powwow on the Mohawk reservation,several times, I was aware that the Iroquois confederacy was alive and well.

And yet, I bet you know less about them than you do about WWII.

Did you notice how many English institutions outside and inside of Quebec supported that stupid ruse??

Yep.

Oh and hey many clans of those 5 nations that make up the Iroquois nation come from outside of Quebec/Canada.

Really? You don't say! Tell me more.

Kinda points out the biases of that get into history eh?? LOL.

Nope.

Maybe they should have followed the money trail, instead of what makes it into the National Archives of Canada and the Canadian Museum of Civilization by way of historians.

Maybe they should have been just objective.

Please note, not one remark about your intelligence, character or prejudices.

That's because I am intelligent, my character is above reproach, and I have few prejudices. Leaving you at a loss for proving anything you made up. Which of course saves you from future embarrassment.

I'm still waiting for you to expose the prejudices you claimed my posts were full of.

Just a quick question, is the US Federal Reserve a private institution?

 

[ironsides]

This is getting really boring, all these one line rantings, more or less about my intelligence, character, and prejudices. In my opinion, the money trail, Sutton produced is more believable, than those of historians who are basing their conclusions on the faulty memories and prejudices of those involved in an event. I maintain that an economist chasing down money trails is much more likely to find the truth than an historian who adds his biases to those that existed at the time of an event.

You don't like Sutton's conclusions, tough. So produce factual links, that actually proves them wrong. Proof, not simply based on another's opinion or what one believes is a "leap of fantasy" After all just look at the leap of fantasy of the curators of the Calliers Museum made.

Since I live 25 minutes from the Kanawake Reserve and have been to the Iroquois Powwow on the Mohawk reservation,several times, I was aware that the Iroquois confederacy was alive and well. Did you notice how many English institutions outside and inside of Quebec supported that stupid ruse?? Oh and hey many clans of those 5 nations that make up the Iroquois nation come from outside of Quebec/Canada. Kinda points out the biases that get into history eh?? LOL. Maybe they should have followed the money trail, instead of what makes it into the National Archives of Canada and the Canadian Museum of Civilization by way of historians.

Please note, not one remark about your intelligence, character or prejudices.

The title of this forum is wrong, no one is casually arming the country south of you. There is nothing casual about it, Americans are arming themselves.

In case you have not noticed… Americans are arming themselves. Sales of those rifles the liberals like to refer to as “assault rifles” are so brisk, nationwide, that they are back-ordered for weeks and, in some cases, even months. (In the event you are unfamiliar with the term “Assault Rifle”… the common definition, by liberals and “gun-grabbers” of an assault rifle, is… a rifle that One: Looks scary” and Two: Holds more than five rounds!)

http://westernfrontamerica.com/2009/01/16/americans-arming/

 

[bluebyrd35]

The title of this forum is wrong, no one is casually arming the country south of you. There is nothing casual about it, Americans are arming themselves.

In case you have not noticed… Americans are arming themselves. Sales of those rifles the liberals like to refer to as “assault rifles” are so brisk, nationwide, that they are back-ordered for weeks and, in some cases, even months. (In the event you are unfamiliar with the term “Assault Rifle”… the common definition, by liberals and “gun-grabbers” of an assault rifle, is… a rifle that One: Looks scary” and Two: Holds more than five rounds!)

http://westernfrontamerica.com/2009/01/16/americans-arming/
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Yes and shooting like just happened in Ohio. One dead and 11 wounded, because of a dispute. Two students simply left got their guns and came back shooting.

I wonder how much is due to the atmosphere of fear, brought on by the incredible stupidity of those elected to run the country. Many Americans love their guns but perhaps the recent and not so recent political shinannigans have none gun lovers wanting the biggest, scariest protections they can get.

What a way to settle a dispute...... three lives in the crapper. It is depressing that these are University students. Education apparently doesn't really equal knowledge or common sense does it.

hmmmmm this seem to be coming up against a lot of this lately.

 

[CDNBear]

Hmmm, still not able to answer questions eh?

Predictable, but surprising.

 

[bluebyrd35]

Move them goal posts!

Per Capita eh?

And these Merchant Marines all died at the hands of the Germans and their U-Boat torpedoes while they were delivering weapons to the Germans.

What weapons were they delivering again? You haven't answered yet.
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Opel aircraft & weapons built at the GM subsiduary in Germany with GM financing funnelled through international banks and countries. I understand it was found they were operated with slave labour. Henry Ford was an admirer of Hitler, as well. Actual letters from him to Hitler can be found on the web, & in wiki, I believe.

You will also notice, that I mentioned those (publically or privately financed) Merchant Marines, were, on the whole working for the Allies. Arms were not shipped from the US directly, just as the funds to pay for them or lent to Germany were not. They were run through multiple banks and countries.

The Merchant Marines were not part of the US forces, during times when they were not at war, when they became the US Merchant Marines. The war, I believe according to several of you here, didn't even begin until 1941. So they were a private run force, not connected with the US Government. See that date when the war started for the US works against as well as for an argument.
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LMAO... too easy

Yup quite right far too easy.

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... meanwhile in the skies over Libya...

Yes, we are part of NATO .......you know the North Atlantic Treaty Organization. Generally speaking it is the US that leads these forces. I remind you though that for several years now Canada has had a Bush wanna be for a Prime Minister, worse, got elected with about 40% of the national vote. Unfortunately, the Liberal party is in disfavour here at the moment. How different it would have been if the runner up NDP got in. Not better just different.

 

[DaSleeper]

I wish someone would learn how to quote so we all know who said what without having to reread the last two pages every time:roll:

 

[CDNBear]

Arms were not shipped from the US directly, just as the funds to pay for them or lent to Germany were not.

OMG you actually concede to fact.

Thank you.

I told you we were right.

 

[Ocean Breeze]

Ohio police shoot man dead after 'domestic killings'

Seven people have been shot dead by a gunman in the north of the US state of Ohio, say reports.


BBC News - Ohio police shoot man dead after 'domestic killings'

that wonderful culture of violence and guns. with all those guns around the nation, one can expect even more of this kind of incident ........as the stress of the economic woes contine, and reality begins to hit home......despair, rage and acting out stands a good chance of being even more prevelant. One can only imagine how these will be dealt with .

 

[DaSleeper]

‪Tutorial - How to Quote a Forum Post - PhilosophyForum.com‬‏ - YouTube


‪Tutorial - How to Multi-Quote PhilosophyForum.com‬‏ - YouTube

 

[bluebyrd35]

Hmmm, still not able to answer questions eh?

Predictable, but surprising.

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Told you I was bored with those one line put down comments.

Besides, why answer the small group, who infers I am anti-American, Anti-Canadian, Anti-French, Anti-English, off my meds, suffering from hysteria, oh and we mustn't forget those lovely comments about my sanity. I should wait until I become anti-native as well??.......which seems to be about to manifest in the next post.

Replying to one who denies validity outright based on, the site, the author, the qualifications don't suit, is not worthy my time. I have run out of patience. You enjoy playing with facts and twisting them just enough to cast doubt on them. Not my cuppa tea thanks.

 

[JLM]

I wish someone would learn how to quote so we all know who said what without having to reread the last two pages every time:roll:

Ya payin' attention Petros? :lol:

 

[CDNBear]

that wonderful culture of violence and guns.

Where the general population, per capita contribute more to charitable organization, than Canadians.

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Told you I was bored with those one line put down comments.

You don't understand what a question mark looks like?

Besides, why answer the small group, who infers I am anti-American, Anti-Canadian, Anti-French, Anti-English, off my meds, suffering from hysteria, oh and we mustn't forget those lovely comments about my sanity. I should wait until I become anti-native as well??.......which seems to be about to manifest in the next post.

Not at all. I just asked a couple simple questions. Well several actually. All of which you have dodged. Why is that?

Replying to one who denies validity outright based on, the site, the author, the qualifications don't suit, is not worthy my time.

Why do keep lying?

I dismissed the material, because I used your other links material to show you the inconsistencies in your own material.

I have run out of patience.

You spelled crap wrong.

You enjoy playing with facts and twisting them just enough to cast doubt on them.

No I enjoy playing with Op/Ed material disguised as fact, and use peoples own material to show the errors and inconsistencies.

In the hopes that they learn something.

Not my cuppa tea thanks.

Quite.

 

[bluebyrd35]

I wish someone would learn how to quote so we all know who said what without having to reread the last two pages every time:roll:

Maybe you had better wish I DON'T learn, after all it would be rather hard to answer links that actually stayed put. LOL. Never mind, have to give you something to complain about eh??

 

[CDNBear]

Maybe you had better wish I DON'T learn, after all it would be rather hard to answer links that actually stayed put.

Why?

1, His post has nothing to do with links.
2, The links you do manage to post, were easy to disprove, with the other links you post.

LOL.

Quite.

 

[bluebyrd35]

Where the general population, per capita contribute more to charitable organization, than Canadians.

You don't understand what a question mark looks like?

Not at all. I just asked a couple simple questions. Well several actually. All of which you have dodged. Why is that?

Why do keep lying?

I dismissed the material, because I used your other links material to show you the inconsistencies in your own material.

You spelled crap wrong.

No I enjoy playing with Op/Ed material disguised as fact, and use peoples own material to show the errors and inconsistencies.

In the hopes that they learn something.
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Ho hum.....yawn... !!]

 

[CDNBear]

Ho hum.....yawn... !!]

Yes, I'm already aware of your cowardly closed-minded dodging and cop outs.

How sad.

I guess those questions were just to tough for you?

 

[DaSleeper]

Maybe you had better wish I DON'T learn, after all it would be rather hard to answer links that actually stayed put.

Links that worked

This might just help you post a link that works instead of having us look around and you take the credit for us finding one that works;-)

‪How to post a link on Techkings vbulletin forum.‬‏ - YouTube

So simple to paste into the link box instead of the general message area.....Thanks

LOL. Never mind, have to give you something to complain about eh??

You been complaining this whole thread with post that are next to unintelligible....

 

[bluebyrd35]

OMG you actually concede to fact.

Thank you.

I told you we were right.

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Did you miss that in Sutton's book?? Now I do know you read that link. The arms were simply laundered through other countries. What did you think my emphasis on the money trail was all about?? Those arms got to where they were meant to as did the money.

That is what I mean about slantiness and sleezy in your responses. If someone said what a nice blue sky today, I would not expect to get a long argument on the fact that is was really black space or that colors are not really as we see them. As I said not worth discussing anything with someone like this.