The Canadian Zionism Question

eh1eh

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darkbeaver

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Good to see the unbiased opinions that you rely on to support your already clear decision on the State of Isreal. Really.


A plea for the unbiased position! That's rich coming from you. Care to exercise no bias is a position taken very early in examination. Sixty years later a little action is in order. You are living in the past, this is tomorrow, the trial period is over, please step onto the little hatch under the rope. It has been a very long time since I exercised a non bias disinterest with respect to that foaming mad dog israel.
 

weaselwords

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Everything would have been so much simpler if the Palestinians had accepted the 1948 partition when Israel did. Instead we have constant state of militariism on both sides trying to correct precieved wrongs. Go ahead and blame the Zionists for wanting to protect Israel. But at the same time blame the Palestinians for their intransigence, their inability to speak with one voice and their indiscriminate violence. There is more than enough guilt to spread around.
 

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This was already debunked as a propaganda piece.

Also, Chomsky is a bit heavy handed in his prose, but his analysis is usually bang-on when it comes to foreign affairs. He was on top of the Nicaragua mess and I always get a kick out of his overview of Italy's U.S.-backed fascism while Mussolini was in power.

Anyway, I wouldn't put too much stock in critics who bend over to suck Ezra's ethical jizz.
 

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A plea for the unbiased position! That's rich coming from you. Care to exercise no bias is a position taken very early in examination. Sixty years later a little action is in order. You are living in the past, this is tomorrow, the trial period is over, please step onto the little hatch under the rope. It has been a very long time since I exercised a non bias disinterest with respect to that foaming mad dog israel.
Mores the pity for you, my friend.

Yes I would agree that you could say Chomsky is reputable.
And I think we both agree what he is reputable for.
 

mentalfloss

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Of course, by those who oppose it, everything here is pretty much a propaganda piece of some sort.

No, it's legit propaganda.

Firstly, the idea that previous peaceful passages are abrogated by later passages and that those later statements must be held as literal is not in any way shape or form the methodology by which all muslims live by. That video implies that it is, which is outrightly wrong.

If this was the case, there would not be so many different sects of the religion. The reason why there are so many sects is coincidentally what the author of that video says 'westerners' believe wrongly based on their own religions. It is due precisely by virtue of the fact that there are many varying interpretations of the Qur'an that all of those sects exist to begin with!

Literalism has been a source of disagreement within the Muslim community for centuries, with the debate over it continuing today. In the past many prominent Islamic scholars such as Ibn Taymiyyah and Muhammad ibn Abd-al-Wahhab were proponents of it, in addition to modern day scholars such as Abd-al-Aziz ibn Abd-Allah ibn Baaz. It has been a primary area of contention between Shi'as and many Sunnis, especially proponents of Salafism.[citation needed]
Qur'anic literalism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


Secondly, the assumption that all later contradicting passages are actually the violent and while the original, earlier ones are pacifist is also a huge assumption that is simply not true. The whole 'abrogation' issue is based on the idea that later passages which contradict earlier ones will be the passages used if they are 'better' or based on Allah's will.

This does not mean that they are necessarily violent by any means. That's absolutely ridiculous. In fact, many muslims actually oppose the idea of abrogation because Allah is supposed to be all-wise - and would never need to revise older passages.

The Problem of Abrogation in the Quran

Lastly, sharia law as a single, organized international conspiracy that all islamists enforced in order to infuse this 'creeping sharia' is unjustified, despite the existence of minor considerations like sharia courts, for instance. That they can operate above existing administrations is patently false, even in muslim nations.

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Skatchie

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I really believe Israel is the enemy of the world, as it currently stands. We need to get rid of the Jewish influence on the media in the world, it's bringing us down. Since the holocaust the greatest atrocities in the world have been those committed by the Jews. It really is disgusting how they lack humanity as a culture. I hate to say it but it's true. They need to clean up their ways, and many Jews already are, which is a good thing. Get the Zionists out and quit hiding behind something that happened 70 years ago. Take responsibility for what has happened since which is no better than what happened to them.
 

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I really believe Israel is the enemy of the world, as it currently stands. We need to get rid of the Jewish influence on the media in the world, it's bringing us down. Since the holocaust the greatest atrocities in the world have been those committed by the Jews. It really is disgusting how they lack humanity as a culture. I hate to say it but it's true. They need to clean up their ways, and many Jews already are, which is a good thing. Get the Zionists out and quit hiding behind something that happened 70 years ago. Take responsibility for what has happened since which is no better than what happened to them.

I imagine you would fit right in on Nov, 9-10, 1938 -
 

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I really believe Israel is the enemy of the world, as it currently stands. We need to get rid of the Jewish influence on the media in the world, it's bringing us down. Since the holocaust the greatest atrocities in the world have been those committed by the Jews. It really is disgusting how they lack humanity as a culture. I hate to say it but it's true. They need to clean up their ways, and many Jews already are, which is a good thing. Get the Zionists out and quit hiding behind something that happened 70 years ago. Take responsibility for what has happened since which is no better than what happened to them.

Oops, you're going to have to back that up sunshine. Bring the proof.
 

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You nuts or something, just about the only culture in the world now originates from Jews. (Theater, science etc.) Check your Nobel Peace Prize winners, exclude President Obama. (not Jewish) Oh yes, stop blaming everone else.
 

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Spare me your pity, it is misplaced this close to the end of Israel. It's exactly as wonderful as a major disease being cured.
So approx 5 to 6 milion Jews, close to the amount that were the 1st culture to be exterminated on an assembly line basis because they were Jews. It is that same thinking that i would compare to your stated belief of extermination of the Jews in Isreal.

You and Skatchie would get along fine -
 

weaselwords

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A little bit of hyperbole don't you think Skatchie, considering the following "atrocities" since 1948
Lets start in Africa Rwanda
Uganda
Kenya
Somalia
Ethiopia
Etriea
Sudan
Liberia
Nigeria
Democratic Republic of Congo
I could go on but thats enough of Africa for now.
How about Asia Burma
Indonesia
Afghanistan
Philippines
Cambodia
Iraq / Turkey / Iran - Kurds
In Europe there's Bosnia-Herzogvina
Macedonia
Kovoso
If you want to take a look at the west Guatemala
Dominca
Chile
Argentina
Get your ducks in a row before making grandiose statements.
 

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I really believe Israel is the enemy of the world, as it currently stands. We need to get rid of the Jewish influence on the media in the world, it's bringing us down. Since the holocaust the greatest atrocities in the world have been those committed by the Jews. It really is disgusting how they lack humanity as a culture. I hate to say it but it's true. They need to clean up their ways, and many Jews already are, which is a good thing. Get the Zionists out and quit hiding behind something that happened 70 years ago. Take responsibility for what has happened since which is no better than what happened to them.

BULL****

Joo-hater.

Better pull your head out of your arse and look around. Here are some FACTS on "atrocities" since the Holocaust.......NONE have been perpetrated by Jews.

Casualties listed are the minimum estimates.

Rwanda: tribal genocide 500,000 dead
Uganda: repression by Idi Amin, tribal genocide 300,000 dead
Sudan: religious and tribal genocide, civil war 800,000 dead
China: repression of her own people 40,000,000 dead
China: repression in Tibet 600,000 dead
Cambodia: communist repression 3,000,000 dead
USSR: repression in Afghanistan 1,000,000 dead

And I haven't even touched on South America, the Iraq-Iran War, the Balkans, the Congo (4 million at least killed), and on and on and on and on and on.

None of it caused by Jews.

Now.

The Middle East.

Total casualties since the creation of Israel, including the War of Independence when Israel was invaded by 5 armies, the Suez Crisis, the Six Day War (a pre-emptive, defensive war) the Yom Kippur War (in which Israel was attacked) the Israeli invasion of Lebanon (twice), the occupations, the Intifadas, the day-to-day struggle, the missiles and on and on and on.

At MOST 150,000 dead.....that includes BOTH sides, and Arab accusations of Israeli murder of 50,000 civilians, completely unproven.

At most.

The Coalition killed that many Iraqis in the First Gulf War.

So, now that it is completely obvious that you have made an absolute fool of yourself, might I suggest you STFU?????
 

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The picture gets clearer and clearer.

The Beave and Skachie both hate Jews and both think AGW is a fraud.

Coincidence? I don't think so.

I suppose the Jews are behind AGW, along with aliens, CIA, KGB, the UN, 97% of the scientists, universities, nature, facts, iluminati, stone cutters, Liberal media, the guy from the Xfiles that smokes alot....and other nefarious organizations.

Beave 0 Reality 1
 

darkbeaver

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So approx 5 to 6 milion Jews, close to the amount that were the 1st culture to be exterminated on an assembly line basis because they were Jews. It is that same thinking that i would compare to your stated belief of extermination of the Jews in Isreal.

You and Skatchie would get along fine -

You and Skatchie already get along. You are like a window, easy to see through.

Here's my last quote.
"Spare me your pity, it is misplaced this close to the end of Israel. It's exactly as wonderful as a major disease being cured."


Me and six billion other human beings will stick to it, even on the rack. So **** off stooge.
 

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The Rebel Hits a New Low


The very least that could be said of Ezra Levant is that he defended Jews from hate. But that’s now in the past

Like pretty much everyone at The Rebel, McInnes generally has branded himself a Zionist and a friend of the Jews. Levant himself has staked much of his career on his pro-Israeli bona fides, and aims much of his fundraising and editorial offerings at Canadians who feel that the mainstream media is anti-Semitic. In recent weeks, the Rebel even raised money to send a group—including Goldy, Gunn Reid, Levant, and McInnes—to the Holy Land, so they could report in person from the front lines of the war against militant Islam. It all seemed to be going rather smoothly, with Goldy and McInnes even going so far as to stand in the middle of Bethlehem and call for a new Crusade against local Muslims.

But then it all went off the rails when McInnes riffed on Israel in one of his solo video segments. Seen sitting in an armchair with mic in hand, McInnes described the tour as “basically a brainwashing trip. I mean, I think the Jewish—the Israeli government paid for this and we had donors, too, but I think they were mostly Israelis who assumed we are gonna listen to all this **** we get fed. And that is having the reverse effect on me, I’m becoming anti-Semitic.”

This is about more than just the ideological pathologies of one weird Canadian media company. It is about a warped new ideological arena where Zionists and creepy Nazi apologists are willing to overlook their differences in service to a common hateful cause.

Questioning the historical narrative of the Holocaust, once the ultimate taboo, is now just fodder for right-wing sensationalism, in other words. A monster has been set free, and I am not sure how it’s going to be pushed back into its soiled cage.

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