The Canadian election………….

darkbeaver

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Canada’s Conservatives to call national election before economic downturn worsens

By Keith Jones
4 September 2008



Before the week is out, Canadian Prime Minister and Conservative Party leader Stephen Harper is all but certain to call a federal election for Tuesday, October 14.
Harper met individually with the three other major party leaders between Friday, August 29 and Monday, September 1. The ostensible aim of these meetings was to determine whether a fall session of parliament would be “productive.” In reality, the meetings were pro forma affairs staged so that Harper can claim that despite his attempts to find “common ground” with the opposition, his minority government lacks sufficient parliamentary support for its legislative agenda. An election is needed therefore—or so the argument goes—to put a “dysfunctional” parliament out of it misery.

Far and away the most important of these reasons is the rapidly deteriorating economic situation.
Mounting economic crisis Economic growth has stalled, with the economy contracting in the first quarter of the year and registering anemic growth in the second. On Tuesday, the Organization for Economic Co-operation and Development or OECD lowered its projection for Canada’s economic growth in 2008 to 0.8 percent. Among the G-7 countries, only Italy is expected to have slower growth.
Although technically the country is not in a recession, 55,000 jobs were cut in July, more than in any month since the 1990-91 slump.
The slowdown in Canada’s economy and that of the US, which consumes over three-quarters of Canada’s exports, comes after years of wrenching job losses in the manufacturing sector. Since 2002, some 400,000 manufacturing jobs, more than 15 percent of the total, have been eliminated as a result of the rise in the value of the Canadian dollar, off-shoring, increased foreign competition, and the never-ending corporate drive to sweat out greater profits. Especially hard-hit have been the auto and forest industries.
A commodity-resources boom in the mining and energy sectors and a surge in investment in Alberta’s oil tar sands have meant buoyant profits for key sections of Canadian capital and limited the growth in unemployment. But this is now all threatened. Commodity prices have begun to recede as demand tapers off in China and elsewhere and the US sub-prime mortgage crisis is cascading through the world financial system.
The Conservatives manifestly fear the electoral impact of mounting job losses and financial market turbulence. Rising prices have also severely pinched the incomes of working people. Between April and July the increase in Canada’s Consumer Price Index doubled from 1.7 to 3.4 percent due to soaring oil and food prices.
But Harper also aims to use the worsening economic situation to appeal to big business to rally behind his party’s drive to secure a majority government.
 

Socrates the Greek

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Back to this non-existant 'hidden adenda' again, eh??


Hey Risus good day, an election coming up here in Canada and the fight is on…
Canada will do some house cleaning come October the 14th. You and I will not argue until after the election……..it works for me…………..
 

darkbeaver

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Harper nows what's coming, they all do, none of them will tell you the real depth of it though, they know where that line is that they must not cross if they want to occupy seats and draw government cheques.
 

Risus

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Hey Risus good day, an election coming up here in Canada and the fight is on…
Canada will do some house cleaning come October the 14th. You and I will not argue until after the election……..it works for me…………..
Eh yes, clean out those liberals... :lol:
 

Socrates the Greek

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True....but he won't. Unlike Mulrooney (a Liberal in a blue suit) Harper is a fiscal conservative.



Also true......and (unfortunately) with good reason, considering this election call.



Not true. Afghanistan must be kept out of the hands of the Taliban.....that simple. As well, I see no evidence the Yanks have used economic pressure on their allies.....you have something to back that up?

Afghanistan must be kept out of the hands of the Taliban? FOR HOW LONG…………..
Canada should get the hell out of Afghanistan 97 men and women combined lost their lifes for nothing but ass kissing Bush, and no……….. The US did not apply pressure at all, Bush told NATO the US WILL PAY FOR EVERYTHING, WHAT A JOKE……..
US HAS SO MUCH MONEY THEY DON’T KNOW WHAT TO DO WITH IT, THIS IS WHY THE US IS BORROWING MONEY FROM CHINA TO BUY OIL FROM THE ARABS BECAUSE THE US IS DOING GREAT………………….HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAH.
Colpy a world of conservative BLAB LA BLA…………..:roll: :roll::roll:
 

Socrates the Greek

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Eh yes, clean out those liberals... :lol:



You only wish my good pal……….only wish………..Reality will set in, as you see Emerson decided not to run in the next election, did you hear that? The reason why is because he knows if he would make the mistake and play the devoted Conservative in Vancouver center he will get nothing but a bloody nose…………..True fact my dear pal………Smile………… :p:p:p ;-);-);-)
 

Avro

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Followed by the Liberals coming in to save the day by taxing us to death.... then when we get sick of being taxed to death and them not spending any of the suplus to make our lives better, in comes the Conservatives to save the day.... then when we hit the red line again, the Liberals.... then Conservatives..... Liberals, Conservatives......

anybody else see a pattern?

The Liberals reduced taxes and paid down the debt with that surplus. Paul Martin was the best finnance minister this country has ever seen.
 

Socrates the Greek

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The Liberals reduced taxes and paid down the debt with that surplus. Paul Martin was the best finnance minister this country has ever seen.

No kidding, Paul Martin runs circles around Harper on economic ability………..
 

Risus

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The Liberals reduced taxes and paid down the debt with that surplus. Paul Martin was the best finnance minister this country has ever seen.
You must be snorting something if you believe that. There have been a number of excellent finance ministers better than him, both liberal and Conservative.
 

Socrates the Greek

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Harper is a far better politician than Martin though, but I'd take someone with sound economic sense over someone who knows how to pander and lie for votes.


Quite simply Harper makes a great Weasel…… with a phony smile.........................

Harper makes silent noise when he try’s to look and hopelessly be charismatic, Martin there too runs cercal around Harper on Charisma…………
 
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Avro

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Quit simply Harper makes a great Weasel…… with a phony smile.........................

Harper makes silent noise when he try’s to look and hopelessly be charismatic, Martin there too runs cercal around Harper on Charisma…………


Nah, Martin always looked ackward and fumbled a stumbled his way through debates. Harper has honed his politcal skills by studying, of all people Cretien, who was an excellent debator. You watch Harper just smoke Dion in the coming debte this election.
 

Socrates the Greek

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Nah, Martin always looked ackward and fumbled a stumbled his way through debates. Harper has honed his politcal skills by studying, of all people Cretien, who was an excellent debator. You watch Harper just smoke Dion in the coming debte this election.

Ye, I don’t like that at all, what were the Liberals thinking in choosing and setting up Dion for the Top Job??????????? Some times we make irreversible mistakes until the sh!t hits the fan and then the correction is on………Dion will be the Joe Clark of the Liberals,:angry3: but treditionaly Canada is a Liberal thinking Nation,
VIVA LA CANADA.............:lol:
 

Avro

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Ye, I don’t like that at all, what were the Liberals thinking in choosing and setting up Dion for the Top Job??????????? Some times we make irreversible mistakes until the sh!t hits the fan and then the correction is on………Dion will be the Joe Clark of the Liberals,:angry3: but treditionaly Canada is a Liberal thinking Nation,
VIVA LA CANADA.............:lol:

No, it will be worse for Dion, he will never ever become PM, at least old Joe won an election.

If Harper can buy enough votes in Ontario....ie retooling Ford plant....he could get his majority.
 

Ron in Regina

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I'm not a Harper fan (I am in Saskatchewan!) but from the current crop of potential leaders that we
have to choose from, I think he would harm us the least. Best of the worst is still the best, I guess.

I predict, for the 14 seats in Saskatchewan:
NDP = 1
Liberals=0
Green Party=0
Conservatives=13

What do you folks figure is going to happen in each of your own provinces?
 

Socrates the Greek

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I'm not a Harper fan (I am in Saskatchewan!) but from the current crop of potential leaders that we
have to choose from, I think he would harm us the least. Best of the worst is still the best, I guess.

I predict, for the 14 seats in Saskatchewan:
NDP = 1
Liberals=0
Green Party=0
Conservatives=13

What do you folks figure is going to happen in each of your own provinces?



Hey Ron,
I think the seat numbers per province could be the same as the 2006 election….unless Quebec or Ontario pulls an upset on the Conservative camp…….which I highly doubt…….


KEEPING IN MIND THAT SHOULD THE CONSERVATIVES NOT PLAY THE WEASEL GAME WITH THE OVER SPENDING ON THE 2006 ELECTION……………WHO CAN TELL, THESE SEAT NUMBERS OR THE POPULAR VOTE COULD AND I AM SURE IF THE OVER SPENDING NEVER TOOK PLACE ON THE CONSERVATIVE CAMP, THE RESULTS WOULD AND SHOULD HAVE BEEN IN FAVOR OF THE LIBERALS……………….. I HOPE CANADIANS WILL TAKE POINTS OFF THE CONSERVATIVES FOR THAT.

 
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TenPenny

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I expect that Atlantic Canada will probably give one or two more Conservatives. Not likely NL, but NS and NB. Hard to say what will happen in Bill Casey's riding, that's a cluster****. But overall, Harper seems to have gotten over his 'culture of entitlement' shtick, and he's somewhat connected to reality.
 

lone wolf

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Ontario has a Liberal government. Traditionally, it tends to go opposite in federal.

Con - 50
Lib - 44
NDP - 12

Now ... excuse me while I go wash my mouth out with soap, gargle with gasoline ... and take up smoking
 

Colpy

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I expect that Atlantic Canada will probably give one or two more Conservatives. Not likely NL, but NS and NB. Hard to say what will happen in Bill Casey's riding, that's a cluster****. But overall, Harper seems to have gotten over his 'culture of entitlement' shtick, and he's somewhat connected to reality.


God Yes! Can we please get rid of that asshole, Paul Zed