The biggest problem of present physics.

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Sonic Booms Make Those Stringy Things

Posted on October 10, 2011 by Mel Acheson
The IC5146 interstellar cloud. Credits: ESA/Herschel/SPIRE/PACS/D. Arzoumanian (CEA Saclay)


Oct 11, 2011
Consensus astronomy proposes that thunder causes lightning.
Infrared images of the “clouds” around the Cocoon Nebula reveal “networks of tangled gaseous filaments.” The filaments tend to have constant width and extend for many light-years. They appear to be stellar counterparts of the “stringy things” found in Venus’s tail. (We won’t mention the similar features in comet tails.) They puzzle astronomers because gravity and hot gas don’t do that. To add an enigma to the puzzle, “newborn stars are often found in the densest parts of them.”
If such a thing as “the vacuum of space” actually were to exist, hot gas would expand into it rather than get tangled. The vanishing small force of gravity tends to act with spherical symmetry, not with the linear complexity of twisting filaments. Astronomers have to say something to keep up the appearance of being knowledgeable in the face of such clear falsification of the theories they have come to believe in, so they speculate that “sonic booms from exploding stars” generate the filaments.
The gas, of course, is plasma, a word that’s not present in consensus astronomy’s lexicon. The filaments are Birkeland currents, identifiable by their coherence over large distances, their twisting about each other into cable structures, and their pinching into high-density “star-forming” instabilities. The networks are better known in plasma physics as circuits. The image above is a snapshot of a cosmic electrical discharge.
Since astronomers have no word for electricity, they have no way to explain what puzzles them: the concentration of fast-moving charged particles into long, thin channels. Their only recourse is to the superstition that preceded the investigation of electricity: thunder causes lightning.
Mel Acheson
Hat tip to Alazel Acheson

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I've seen thousands of them on golf courses.

The Beaver dude is partly right. The basic foundation of reality is energy, but energy takes on many forms: heat, light, electricity, even thought.

The Cliffy dude is partly right in that I am partly right and partly up and partly left and partly blue and partly mad but all of that is an expression of plasma the one and only primal stuff. A cabbage is the same stuff as a carrot is the same stuff as a bunny is the same stuff as a bug. There are three dimensions only, matter and energy and life, the father the mother and the son. Forms are forms none of them are permanent but the information to build them is, and when the raw matter to assemble exists it will be under the constant tension to live. I can't say anything about reality.
 

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For some weird reason I can't post in here when quoting Socratus' impossible claim.

The Universe as whole is Two- Measured World.
Next to Material-Gravity World the Vacuum World exists too.

You cannot have a vacuum in two dimensions...it's contradictory. A vacuum is a volume of space without any matter. You can't have a volume of space with two dimensions, you'd instead have a plane with infinite length and width with zero thickness...if there is no thickness then you can't have matter in a dimension that doesn't exist, so even the definition of a vacuum becomes meaningless.
 

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A Nobel Prize for the Dark Side

Posted on October 11, 2011 by Wal Thornhill
“Science today is about getting some results, framing those results in an attention-grabbing media release and basking in the glory.” —Kerry Cue, Canberra Times, 5 October 2011
On October 4, 2011 the Nobel Prize in Physics was awarded to three astrophysicists for “THE ACCELERATING UNIVERSE.” Prof. Perlmutter of the University of California, Berkeley, has been awarded half the 10m Swedish krona (US$1,456,000 or £940,000) prize, with Prof. Schmidt of the Australian National University and Prof. Riess of Johns Hopkins University’s Space Telescope Science Institute sharing the other half. The notion of an accelerating expansion of the universe is based on observation of supernovae at high redshift, known as The High-Z SN Search.



Brian Schmidt of the Australian National University. Photo by Belinda Pratten.

However, accelerating expansion requires a mysterious source of energy in space acting against gravity, dubbed “dark energy.” Calculations show that the energy required is equivalent to 73% of the total mass-energy of the universe! Historians will look back at science today with disbelief and amusement at the ‘science’ of today. Following equally mysterious ‘black holes’ and ‘dark matter,’ if we continue to discover darkness at the present rate we shall soon know nothing!

“The present boastfulness of the expounders and the gullibility of the listeners alike violate that critical spirit which is supposedly the hallmark of science.”
—Jacques Barzun, Science: the glorious entertainment

“If you take a highly intelligent person and give them the best possible, elite education, then you will most likely wind up with an academic who is completely impervious to reality.”





Carl Linnaeus in 1758 showed characteristic academic hubris and anthropocentrism when he named our species Homo sapiens sapiens (“Sapiens” is Latin for “wise man” or ” knowing man”). But it is questionable, as a recent (18th August) correspondent to Nature wrote, whether we “merit a single ‘sapiens,’ let alone the two we now bear.” To begin, big bang cosmology dismisses the physics principle of no creation from nothing. It then proceeds with the falsehood that Hubble discovered the expansion of the universe. He didn’t, he found the apparent redshift/distance relationship (actually a redshift/luminosity relationship), which to his death he did not feel was due to an expanding universe.

Carl Linnaeus in 1758 showed characteristic academic hubris and anthropocentrism when he named our species Homo sapiens sapiens (“Sapiens” is Latin for “wise man” or ” knowing man”). But it is questionable, as a recent (18th August) correspondent to Nature wrote, whether we “merit a single ‘sapiens,’ let alone the two we now bear.” To begin, big bang cosmology dismisses the physics principle of no creation from nothing. It then proceeds with the falsehood that Hubble discovered the expansion of the universe. He didn’t, he found the apparent redshift/distance relationship (actually a redshift/luminosity relationship), which to his death he did not feel was due to an expanding universe.

Look over there! It's a huge piece of nothing! I wonder whats in it?
 

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the universe is expanding into expanding space?

Yes...what I'm saying is that thought isn't a form of energy by itself...it's a combination of chemical and electrical energy. Like a hybrid car that uses gasoline and batteries to propel the vehicle, that's not a form of energy by itself.

They say that thoughts are not stored in the brain but in the field surrounding the living body. They've been looking for the meaty file cabinet for decades.
 

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the universe is expanding into expanding space?
An explosion has two wavelengths. Higher a and lower frequency that travel at different speeds so yes space can be created long before the secondary matter containing forming wave hits.
 
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A vacuum is a volume of space without any matter.
/ Tonington /
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a)
A vacuum cannot be a volume of space without any matter.
Why?
Because to create a volume of space is needed mass.
To create a volume of space is needed some power.
Only the mass ( as a power ) according to GRT can curved
space in sphere – volume.
b)
More punctually.

The biggest problem of present physics is that physicists think
that we have only one Reference Frame – Matter World

And we have another Reference Frame – Vacuum World
Therefore we must think about The Double Universe
But physicists refuse to think about Vacuum World

All galaxies exist in Vacuum
The detected mass in Universe is very small and therefore
Gravitational effects ( GRT ) took place only in a small

area of Infinite Vacuum
The Vacuum is Source of Matter Universe
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israel socratus


 

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You've changed goal posts now. Reference frames are not dimensions.You're confused. Vacuum is space without matter. Mass isn't required at all, in fact it's explicitly excluded by definition.
 

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An explosion has two wavelengths. Higher a and lower frequency that travel at different speeds so yes space can be created long before the secondary matter containing forming wave hits.

So what did the initial undeferentiated plasma explode into. How far did the initial wave penetrate into nothing before it encountered three dee virgin volumn soos as to be able to accomodate space? It seems to me there would be no volume for space to fill.
Socratus envisions the vaccumn left behind in the previous compression maybe, compression expansion, compression expansion that is the simple two stroke universe Hawkings flogs. My guess is as good as theirs, anyone can use a tape measure for **** sake.

**** the gas models
 

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You guys realize Dexter will find this thread and start kicking major butt.
 

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The universe is stuffed full there are no empty regions there is no top hat that conveys bunnies from its darkvacuum depths.

There's no perfect vacuum, but the universe most definitely is not stuffed full. There's lots of radiation, neutrinos, photons, but it's not stuffed full. The distance you're talking about actually matters for describing the distribution of matter. Over very large distances the universe appears homogeneous.

Socrates is talking about the vacuum dimension and now reference frame...the biggest problem presently in physics would probably be 95% of matter and energy that is not well understood at all. Dark matter and energy, the stuff they're working on at CERN and other high energy atom smashers.
 

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the biggest problem presently in physics would probably be 95%
of matter and energy that is not well understood at all.
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Question: Why they cannot understand?
In my opinion, because they dont want agree that tha Universe
as whole is Two- Measured World.
Next to Material-Gravity World the Vacuum World exists too.