The Bankers Manifesto 1892

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Yeah, that would be perfect and when the gov't. found itself short of money, no problem, just put on an afternoon shift at the mint until things catch up.
Just by eliminating our current interest payments that would keep 40B in circulation. Canada could always use something like a portion of the tar-sands as collateral (rather than gold). Our ability to pay off loans also requires the principle be paid off. If 40B is the interest then how much do we actually give the banks every year, does it require taking out a new loan (even more interest payments)?
 

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Just by eliminating our current interest payments that would keep 40B in circulation. Canada could always use something like a portion of the tar-sands as collateral (rather than gold). Our ability to pay off loans also requires the principle be paid off. If 40B is the interest then how much do we actually give the banks every year, does it require taking out a new loan (even more interest payments)?


Just hang on a minute there Buster, eliminate Gov't. interest payments you say? What about the people who lent the money to the Gov't.? Did you ask them if that was alright? I'm one of them and you didn't ask me. You seem like one of these "very intelligent individuals" who have all the answers as long as you are not affected. Don't p*ss me off. :angryfire::angryfire:
 

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Just hang on a minute there Buster, eliminate Gov't. interest payments you say? What about the people who lent the money to the Gov't.? Did you ask them if that was alright? I'm one of them and you didn't ask me. You seem like one of these "very intelligent individuals" who have all the answers as long as you are not affected. Don't p*ss me off. :angryfire::angryfire:

Quite so, JLM. Many people have bought the government of Canada bonds (I don't have any myself). These people are lenders to the government.

Besides, regardless of what anybody is saying here, there is no short cut to getting rid fo the debt and the deficit. Much as people may not like it, the only way to do that is to raise taxes and cut services, the old fashioned way.
 

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Just hang on a minute there Buster, eliminate Gov't. interest payments you say? What about the people who lent the money to the Gov't.? Did you ask them if that was alright? I'm one of them and you didn't ask me. You seem like one of these "very intelligent individuals" who have all the answers as long as you are not affected. Don't p*ss me off. :angryfire::angryfire:
Your little business dealing are squat in terms of importance. This is the sort of money being played with.
Canadian Federal Government Debt 1998

Which part of the article from this link makes you mad, from your above statement all of the points are worth cheering for.

Index to Billions for the Bankers, Debts for the People

I could find a more detailed answer to what this quote below says.
The Bank Of Canada (Central Bank Of Canada) used to be under the authority of the Federal Finance Minister. Ostensibly, to this day, it still is. But there is a catch that most people don't know about. From 1934 until 1974 it created currency and the issuance of credit for the PEOPLE OF CANADA. The interest on these loans was put back into Canada and was used to build the Trans Canada Hwy and various infrastructure.

In 1974, however, when Canada joined the G7, which became the G8, which is now the G20, it gave up it's monetary control and credit issuance to private banking cartels that run most of the western industrial nations (Germany, England, France, Switzerland, Italy etc). The Canadian National Debt has since gone from 18 billion in 1974, to now 500 hundred billion in 2009... That is compound interest paid mostly to: ROCKEFELLER/ROTHSCHILD financial. Hope this answer helps you. '
WikiAnswers - Who owns the Bank of Canada


 

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Quite so, ironsides. I posted my post #89 before I read yours. But as I said there, if you owe 100,000 $ to the bank, you got a problem, if you owe 100 billion, the bank has got a problem. So the fact that USA owes so much money to China is China's problem, and China is not so foolish to demand immediate payment.

If they did, China will have as many problems as USA.

I read a news report a few days ago that China is supposedly buying US treasuries thru fronts - Other banks - then the trail stops at the bank - no linkage to how much China is really holding.
 

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I wouldn't count on Europe to save any banking system. Things do not look good for them.

Could the Euro's Days Be Numbered?

The frenzied betting by financial markets against the stability of Greek government bonds is a clear indication that many investors don't believe Athens will find a way to deal with its massive debt — at least not without an equally huge European bailout. But beyond the market speculation lies a longer-term question that is tormenting the 16 euro-zone nations: Could the Greek crisis be the beginning of the end for the common currency, just eight years after its first notes and coins were issued? Might the doubts and pressures that are driving the euro's value downward lead to the eventual implosion of Europe's most concrete achievement thus far?

Greek Financial Crisis: Will It Lead to Demise of Euro? - TIME
 

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I know what I think about what a banker's manifesto should look like. I asked because I wanted to know what others think. Apparently you don't know what to think, but would prefer to give me history.
Sure I do , you must have missed the 20 or so posts.
 

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I wouldn't count on Europe to save any banking system. Things do not look good for them.
If campaign contributions can help determine who wins a political race why would that not also apply to who has the most money in any adventure is going to be the winner (most of the time).
When a Bank starts owning all the businesses it is making them the owners of much more than a bank. They use the money they 'gain' to buy more and more of what should be owned by the people who built the business.

If the Banks used tactics like below then when things like the depression in the 30's are there because that is the way those top Banks work. They might not have had a choice back then (the King could have 'revoked their move' but since they were 'relatives' He didn't. The Bank and the Crown again had full power over the 'private money as they 'owned' the best businesses.

The financial problem today could be solved by those same people, they will ensure it gets worse, just because they can gain a little more power.

"As the wealth and power of the Rothschilds grew in size and influence so did their intelligence gathering network. They had their 'agents' strategically located in all the capitals and trading centers of Europe, gathering and developing various types of intelligence. Like most family exploits, it was based on a combination of very hard work and sheer cunning. Their unique spy system started out when 'the boys' began sending messages to each other through a network of couriers. Soon it developed into something much more elaborate, effective and far reaching. It was a spy network par excellence. Its stunning speed and effectiveness gave the Rothschilds a clear edge in all their dealings on an international level.
"Rothschild coaches careened down the highways; Rothschild boats set sail across the Channel; Rothschild agents were swift shadows along the streets. They carried cash, securities, letters and news. Above all, news -- the latest exclusive news to be vigorously processed at stock market and commodity bourse.
"And there was no news more precious than the outcome at Waterloo..." (The Rothschilds p. 94).
Upon the battle of Waterloo depended the future of the European continent. If the Grande Armee of Napoleon emerged victorious France would be undisputed master of all she surveyed on the European front. If Napoleon was crushed into submission England would hold the balance of power in Europe and would be in a position to greatly expand its sphere of influence.
Historian John Reeves, a Rothschild partisan, reveals in his book The Rothschilds, Financial Rulers of the Nations, 1887, page 167, that "one cause of his [Nathan's] success was the secrecy with which he shrouded, and the tortuous policy with which he misled those who watched him the keenest."
There were vast fortunes to be made -- and lost -- on the outcome of the Battle of Waterloo. The Stock Exchange in London was at fever pitch as traders awaited news of the outcome of this battle of the giants. If Britain lost, English consuls would plummet to unprecedented depths. If Britain was victorioug, the value of the consul would leap to dizzying new heights.

As the two huge armies closed in for their battle to the death, Nathan Rothschild had his agents working feverishly on both sides of the line to gather the most accurate possible information as the battle proceeded. Additional Rothschild agents were on hand to carry the intelligence bulletins to a Rothschild command post strategically located nearby.
Late on the afternoon of June 15, 1815, a Rothschild representative jumped on board a specially chartered boat and headed out into the channel in a hurried dash for the English coast. In his possession was a top secret report from Rothschild's secret service agents on the progress of the crucial battle. This intelligence data would prove indispensable to Nathan in making some vital decisions.
The special agent was met at Folkstone the following morning at dawn by Nathan Rothschild himself. After quickly scanning the highlights of the report Rothschild was on his way again, speeding towards London and the Stock Exchange.

Arriving at the Exchange amid frantic speculation on the outcome of the battle, Nathan took up his usual position beside the famous 'Rothschild Pillar.' Without a sign of emotion, without the slightest change of facial expression the stony-faced, flint eyed chief of the House of Rothschild gave a predetermined signal to his agents who were stationed nearby.
Rothschild agents immediately began to dump consuls on the market. As hundred of thousands of dollars worth of consuls poured onto the market their value started to slide. Then they began to plummet.
Nathan continued to lean against 'his' pillar, emotionless, expressionless. He continued to sell, and sell and sell. Consuls kept on falling. Word began to sweep through the Stock Exchange: "Rothschild knows." "Rothschild knows." "Wellington has lost at Waterloo."
The selling turned into a panic as people rushed to unload their 'worthless' consuls or paper money for gold and silver in the hope of retaining at least part of their wealth. Consuls continued their nosedive towards oblivion. After several hours of feverish trading the consul lay in ruins. It was selling for about five cents on the dollar.
Nathan Rothschild, emotionless as ever, still leaned against his pillar. He continued to give subtle signals. But these signals were different. They were so bubtly different that only the highly trained Rothschild agents could detect the change. On the cue from their boss, dozens of Rothschild agents made their way to the order desks around the Exchange and bought every consul in sight for just a 'song'!
A short time later the 'official' news arrived in the British capital. England was now the master of the European scene.
Within seconds the consul skyrocketed to above its original value. As the significance of the British victory began to sink into the public consciousness, the value of consuls rose even higher.
Napoleon had 'met his Waterloo.'
Overnight, his already vast fortune was multiplied twenty times over."
 

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You don't have to fear money to see how bankers are controlling everything. Besides, money is a fictitious commodity. It has no intrinsic value and you can't eat it when it crashes.

Cliffy, actually, what you call "Control", I call a lack of skill.

Its a long story, but the wrong families are running the wrong Banks.

Iniquity put them out of "position".
 

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Cliffy, actually, what you call "Control", I call a lack of skill.

Its a long story, but the wrong families are running the wrong Banks.

Iniquity put them out of "position".
It's called hoarding when 3% of the population have more than 90% of the wealth. The weird part is how those same 3% have convinced the 90% that this is for their own good.

Maybe the 90% don't need intentional dumbing down lol