The association of others with God

Cliffy

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This is an excellent way of dating, but the meteorites are older than the earth itself; in fact most of the mountains are older than the earth itself; most of the mountains are parts of the ancient planets that were destroyed in the previous Doomsday which involved the previous solar system (the previous sun and its planets.)

So these planets were broken up into many pieces some of which fell down on our earth and the other planets: Mars, Venus and others .. and these pieces of the old broken up planets became mountains on our earth and the rest of the planets.
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So dating the earth age should take this point into consideration.

The date of the earth formation is not related to the 6000 years, which was the duration of time taken by our earth to be transformed from a sun to an earth with a cold crust.
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Nice bit of fiction there. Are you sure you are not a Scientologist in disguise? Just because some clown 1400 years ago, who was illiterate and did not understand science, decided to make up this fairy tale, doesn't mean it has any validity. Your book seems to be more of a work of fiction than the bible.
 

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You are circling in a whirlpool; shall I make for you a craniotomy to insert this in your brain? It can't be. But you don't want to consider: this is much better than the available theories.

Most of mountains on earth are not of the same date as the rest of the earth.
The Universe and the Quran 2

More than 1400 years: true, but it is the word of God revealed to His messenger and it is true,
and now at present the interpretation has come by the Comforter :) the late interpreter of the Quran and the Bible) and it is also true.

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To prove my words: ask yourself: is our sun the first sun in the universe?
Certainly, it is not. So what was before it? Can't there be another sun?
However, suns explode and it has been observed and proved scientifically by astronomers: the explosion of some suns and stars. And this has been fixed in pictures and images.

Moreover, from where do these meteorites came which fall every now and then on many parts of the world? Unless they are the remnants of some destroyed planets.

In addition, it has been discovered that many meteorites contain amino acids of extra-terrestrial origin; what does this mean? It means obviously that they came from a planet containing life and which was destroyed leaving these rocks which are its parts.

Anyhow, you know the sun and the earth and every other object has an end, and it will be destroyed: the sun will explode and the planets will be destroyed which is in fact the doomsday: so in case these planets are destroyed what will remain of them: the meteorites and the earth portions that will fall on the nearby objects:

So when such large pieces fall on any planet what will they form: mountains of course.
 
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Cliffy

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You are circling in a whirlpool; shall I make for you a craniotomy to insert this in your brain? It can't be. But you don't want to consider: this is much better than the available theories.

Most of mountains on earth are not of the same date as the rest of the earth.
The Universe and the Quran 2

More than 1400 years: true, but it is the word of God revealed to His messenger and it is true,
and now at present the interpretation has come by the Comforter :) the late interpreter of the Quran and the Bible) and it is also true.

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To prove my words: ask yourself: is our sun the first sun in the universe?
Certainly, it is not. So what was before it? Can't there be another sun?
However, suns explode and it has been observed and proved scientifically by astronomers: the explosion of some suns and stars. And this has been fixed in pictures and images.

Moreover, from where do these meteorites came which fall every now and then on many parts of the world? Unless they are the remnants of some destroyed planets.

In addition, it has been discovered that many meteorites contain amino acids of extra-terrestrial origin; what does this mean? It means obviously that they came from a planet containing life and which was destroyed leaving these rocks which are its parts.

Anyhow, you know the sun and the earth and every other object has an end, and it will be destroyed: the sun will explode and the planets will be destroyed which is in fact the doomsday: so in case these planets are destroyed what will remain of them: the meteorites and the earth portions that will fall on the nearby objects:

So when such large pieces fall on any planet what will they form: mountains of course.
You are even sillier than was previously thought. There are trillions of stars (suns) in the universe, billions of galaxies and trillions of planets. Earth is just one tiny insignificant speck of dust in an infinite sea of tiny specks of dust and you think the one who created all this gives a sh!t what you believe or think. Give your head a shake man.
And, by the way, mountains are formed when tectonic plates collide not from chunks of rock falling out of the sky. Chunks falling cause craters.
 

Twila

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maybe some religious people could get together and update their religious books so that they at least have the facts straight.

They've changed the books before, it's not like it would be the second time.
 

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maybe some religious people could get together and update their religious books so that they at least have the facts straight.

They've changed the books before, it's not like it would be the second time.
or at least read the ones they have instead of being lazy and letting your so called "guru" do your thinking for you.
 

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You are even sillier than was previously thought. There are trillions of stars (suns) in the universe, billions of galaxies and trillions of planets. Earth is just one tiny insignificant speck of dust in an infinite sea of tiny specks of dust and you think the one who created all this gives a sh!t what you believe or think. Give your head a shake man.
And, by the way, mountains are formed when tectonic plates collide not from chunks of rock falling out of the sky. Chunks falling cause craters.

As you like, OK then. :-(
But no of course :lol:
 
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AnnaG

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You are circling in a whirlpool; shall I make for you a craniotomy to insert this in your brain? It can't be. But you don't want to consider: this is much better than the available theories.

Most of mountains on earth are not of the same date as the rest of the earth.
The Universe and the Quran 2

More than 1400 years: true, but it is the word of God revealed to His messenger and it is true,
and now at present the interpretation has come by the Comforter :) the late interpreter of the Quran and the Bible) and it is also true.
Lies.

To prove my words: ask yourself: is our sun the first sun in the universe?
Certainly, it is not. So what was before it? Can't there be another sun?
However, suns explode and it has been observed and proved scientifically by astronomers: the explosion of some suns and stars. And this has been fixed in pictures and images.
Yes, there are billions of suns. That is what those bright dots are in the night sky. And the ones we can see in the night sky are only the suns in our little galaxy.

Moreover, from where do these meteorites came which fall every now and then on many parts of the world? Unless they are the remnants of some destroyed planets.
That is only a small part of the story. Meteorites and other bodies also form from cosmic dust. Some of those cosmic bodies started from dust and grew in size.

In addition, it has been discovered that many meteorites contain amino acids of extra-terrestrial origin; what does this mean? It means obviously that they came from a planet containing life and which was destroyed leaving these rocks which are its parts.
Amino acids are simply compounds of elements (hydrogen, carbon, nitrogen, oxygen, and sometimes sulfur) that are composed of aminos and carboxyls (the structures of those 5 elements). These compounds are called "organic" and generally come from plants but not necessarily.

Anyhow, you know the sun and the earth and every other object has an end, and it will be destroyed: the sun will explode and the planets will be destroyed which is in fact the doomsday: so in case these planets are destroyed what will remain of them: the meteorites and the earth portions that will fall on the nearby objects:
Our sun will go red giant first (about 4.5 billion years from now) and bake the planets. There will be no life left. After that the sun will go through the red dwarf, white dwarf, and then supernova stages. That will break up some planets and send others scattering.

So when such large pieces fall on any planet what will they form: mountains of course.
Wrong. If the pieces are large enough they will break up the planet. Smaller pieces will cause craters.
As I said, the Quran is not a reliable source of science. Not even close.
 
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It's amazing to look at pictures of space, all the stars and galaxies which seem to go one endlessly. Then with that image in your mind, you get little gnats like selfslime who are going to set you straight on how things are.
 

Twila

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It's amazing to look at pictures of space, all the stars and galaxies which seem to go one endlessly. Then with that image in your mind, you get little gnats like selfslime who are going to set you straight on how things are.

You'd think he'd be happy being allowed to practice his choosen religion instead of insisting that he's right.

If he wasn't so insistent that his inaccuracies were right, he might find his religion isn't degraded so much.

oh well maybe one day he'll learn to leave well enough alone.
 

Dexter Sinister

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In quantum physics, objects do not exist without an observer. .
As one who actually knows something about quantum physics--I still have my university textbooks--I assure you that is absolutely not true. It is fully consistent with an objective reality that exists entirely independently of observers.
 

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Pork is yummy. wine is yummy. I am not dead yet, nor have I killed anyone. I do not hate anyone or anything easily. But I eat apples, I like snakes, do not worship anything, let alone blindly and without cause, so I must be evil. Evil is good. What I think is bad is not thinking for oneself and taking other people's word as true without question. That is how sheeple are led into stuff that is really nasty.

If humans ever were perfect like these people Adam and Eve, it was because back a few million years ago, their brains were about the same as any other animal and geared towards eating, sleeping, producing progeny, and self-defense. However, because evolution generally urges genes towards continuity of species, human brains did develop and since cognitive thought was possible, reason became the human tool for continuity rather than claws and teeth, or poison, or whatever. And ever since then the ignorant, easily-led, and easily-mystified have preferred to attribute inexplicable phenomena to deities rather than investigate and find the real reasons behind the phenomenon. And there has been no evidence whatsoever that any deities have ever been anything more than indifferent towards ANY of Earth's inhabitants. So that must mean that if humans are evil, it is because we can reason.

Personally, I like being able to reason. It produces many things for me to enjoy; music, my kids, my hubby, movies, stuff on the net, sciences, art, etc.. I do not ever want to be perfect because that implies the loss of reason and then I would be no different than some bovine munching on grass and running away from some predator.
 

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Pork is yummy. wine is yummy. I am not dead yet, nor have I killed anyone. I do not hate anyone or anything easily. But I eat apples, I like snakes, do not worship anything, let alone blindly and without cause, so I must be evil. Evil is good. What I think is bad is not thinking for oneself and taking other people's word as true without question. That is how sheeple are led into stuff that is really nasty.

If humans ever were perfect like these people Adam and Eve, it was because back a few million years ago, their brains were about the same as any other animal and geared towards eating, sleeping, producing progeny, and self-defense. However, because evolution generally urges genes towards continuity of species, human brains did develop and since cognitive thought was possible, reason became the human tool for continuity rather than claws and teeth, or poison, or whatever. And ever since then the ignorant, easily-led, and easily-mystified have preferred to attribute inexplicable phenomena to deities rather than investigate and find the real reasons behind the phenomenon. And there has been no evidence whatsoever that any deities have ever been anything more than indifferent towards ANY of Earth's inhabitants. So that must mean that if humans are evil, it is because we can reason.

Personally, I like being able to reason. It produces many things for me to enjoy; music, my kids, my hubby, movies, stuff on the net, sciences, art, etc.. I do not ever want to be perfect because that implies the loss of reason and then I would be no different than some bovine munching on grass and running away from some predator.
I guess that makes you "perfectly imperfect". :).
 

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As one who actually knows something about quantum physics--I still have my university textbooks--I assure you that is absolutely not true. It is fully consistent with an objective reality that exists entirely independently of observers.
Sound in the forest also exists without an observer.
 

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and then sometimes I like to season the pork chops and bake them in a pan with lots of sauerkraut. The juice from the chops gives the sauerkraut a nice flavor

This of course must be accompanied with some mashed potatoes and peas.:)