The animals that watched this and took pictures are as bad as the rapists!!!

[mystimorn]

CBC News - British Columbia - Dad of gang-raped girl makes appeal

What is wrong with this world when "people" will actually stand by , watch this happen to a young girl, and post the pictures on the internet ? Then there are the "people" who go to look at those pictures?
And we call cats, dogs, wolves etc etc animals.
Mysti

 

[karrie]

It's techinically child pornography, so, thankfully anyone looking at them or distributing them can be charged.

 

[JLM]

CBC News - British Columbia - Dad of gang-raped girl makes appeal

What is wrong with this world when "people" will actually stand by , watch this happen to a young girl, and post the pictures on the internet ? Then there are the "people" who go to look at those pictures?
And we call cats, dogs, wolves etc etc animals.
Mysti

Which led to my question whether the "human" animal is mutating? Just as bad as the initial act is the inaction of "friends" to render assistance and aid the investigation. But you know what? 35 years ago people in Montreal stood and watched a little boy drown because they thought the water he was drowning was polluted. So maybe we are not getting too much worse.

 

[gerryh]

CBC News - British Columbia - Dad of gang-raped girl makes appeal

What is wrong with this world when "people" will actually stand by , watch this happen to a young girl, and post the pictures on the internet ? Then there are the "people" who go to look at those pictures?
And we call cats, dogs, wolves etc etc animals.
Mysti

There have been questions raised as to whether or not she was a willing participant. As in this was a gang bang rather than a rape.

at this time only 2 arrests have been made, one 16 year old for making and distribution of child pornography and one male for sexual assault.

 

[Machjo]

It's techinically child pornography, so, thankfully anyone looking at them or distributing them can be charged.

Thankfully, yes. Though even if she wasn't underage, seeing that, at least from what I read, it was not consensual, she does not remember the event (though she'd seen the videos later), and that she was in no condition at the time to give her consent, it is an act of assault.

It actually surprises me that she would need to be underage for any charges to be laid. If a male 30-year old taxi driver were knocked unconscious and abused by some sick women, and the video went viral, we could do nothing about it because he was not underage?

We should not depend on child pornography laws to protect her in this case, though granted such laws are useful. In this particular case, it should simply be illegal to watch a video of any kind of sexual exploitation or assault.

Looking at it that way, it's actually quite sad that we need to rely on child pornography laws here when what happened here is even more troubling since it was not just a matter of underage sex, but also without her consent.

There have been questions raised as to whether or not she was a willing participant. As in this was a gang bang rather than a rape.

at this time only 2 arrests have been made, one 16 year old for making and distribution of child pornography and one male for sexual assault.

As per the CBC last night, she does not remember the incident, or at least not clearly.

Even if there would have been consent, but she was not in any mental state to give it, then as far as I'm concerned, that's not genuine consent, nor should it be recognized as such in law.

 

[karrie]

Even if there would have been consent, but she was not in any mental state to give it, then as far as I'm concerned, that's not genuine consent, nor should it be recognized as such in law.

Granted, but, I also don't think the courts would be right to look at violent, clear cut rape, as the same as a girl who had too much to drink or smoke. Otherwise every gent would need to pack a breathalyzer with him incase his girlfriend has a little too much to drink.

 

[ironsides]

Rape is rape, these animals should be given at least 25 years.

 

[JLM]

There have been questions raised as to whether or not she was a willing participant. As in this was a gang bang rather than a rape.

at this time only 2 arrests have been made, one 16 year old for making and distribution of child pornography and one male for sexual assault.

I'm sure there will be a few people who will try to minimize it- while the poor girl has nightmares for the rest of her life.

Rape is rape, these animals should be given at least 25 years.

I'd be surprised if the worst offender does more than 4 years.

 

[Machjo]

Granted, but, I also don't think the courts would be right to look at violent, clear cut rape, as the same as a girl who had too much to drink or smoke. Otherwise every gent would need to pack a breathalyzer with him incase his girlfriend has a little too much to drink.

Then I guess the question is, was the intoxication self-inflicted with her full knowledge, or was her drink or food laced with a substance unbeknown to her?

If it's of her own free will, then perhaps she might be partly to blame (though by no means entirely, and the men involved would still have to take at least half the blame). But if it was without her knowledge of what she was consuming, as part of a vile conspiracy, then not only is she totally blameless, but the guys involved are doubly guilty, not only for rape, but for doping too.

Rape is rape, these animals should be given at least 25 years.

I don't know how many years are appropriate, but to ensure that we the taxpayers aren't punished by their actions, I'd hope that the time served is in hard, economically productive labour aimed at making the prison as economically self-sufficient as possible.

 

[joanna73chen]

CBC News - British Columbia - Dad of gang-raped girl makes appeal

What is wrong with this world when "people" will actually stand by , watch this happen to a young girl, and post the pictures on the internet ? Then there are the "people" who go to look at those pictures?
And we call cats, dogs, wolves etc etc animals.
Mysti

What are those people's hearts like as? Hard stones? even a dog has a feeling heart.

Poor girl! Please help this young girl. Stop talking about that attack and circulating those photos. She needs to move on, make a peace environment for her. She will be healed soon, I wish.

 

[JLM]

No way Machjo- if she was drugged by her own free will then she is guilty of putting herself in a vulnerable position- BUT that does NOT in anyway mitigate the guilt of the perpetrators. :smile::smile:

 

[Ariadne]

The last report I read, a couple of days ago, said that the victim was given a date rape drug. A couple of girls (under 18) insisted nothing happened. It seems like this generation is inclined to say what they think will keep them popular, not what is morally correct.

 

[mystimorn]

The last report I read, a couple of days ago, said that the victim was given a date rape drug. A couple of girls (under 18) insisted nothing happened. It seems like this generation is inclined to say what they think will keep them popular, not what is morally correct.

It is bad enough, in our schools, that kids will watch another being bullied. But if this happened, that they will lie just to be popular, what does this tell us about where humans are headed. Rather frightening to think what is next.
Look where they get their kicks. Snuffing banana peels, eyeballing vodka, even taking prescription drugs from their parents medicine cabinets putting the drugs in a bowl and passing it around at parties. Like I said frightening to see the direction that some people are headed.
Mysti

 

[JLM]

It is bad enough, in our schools, that kids will watch another being bullied. But if this happened, that they will lie just to be popular, what does this tell us about where humans are headed. Rather frightening to think what is next.
Look where they get their kicks. Snuffing banana peels, eyeballing vodka, even taking prescription drugs from their parents medicine cabinets putting the drugs in a bowl and passing it around at parties. Like I said frightening to see the direction that some people are headed.
Mysti

Yeah, I think probably one possibility is the human race has about run it's course, I think species get old just as individuals get old. The race is deteriorating mentally, physically and morally. On the other hand there are young people who are sound so maybe it's just Mother Nature's way of doing a severe cut back on the population. It's doubtful whether the answer will become clear in my lifetime but in another 100 years the answer will be clear.

 

[talloola]

Yeah, I think probably one possibility is the human race has about run it's course, I think species get old just as individuals get old. The race is deteriorating mentally, physically and morally. On the other hand there are young people who are sound so maybe it's just Mother Nature's way of doing a severe cut back on the population. It's doubtful whether the answer will become clear in my lifetime but in another 100 years the answer will be clear.

yeah, it is very disturbing indeed to see what many of the young people are doing to themselves and
others. what is wrong with the thought process of the young, when they have to shove pills into
themselves and turn themselves into something very far from what they naturally are. I don't understand
it, it is so unnatural, and at a time of their lives where they are at the threshold of adulthood, and
some are young adults, they choose to turn themselves into mentally handicapped humans, who can't make
a sensible decision, but would rather be high on almost anything.

Yeah, the younger people will jump
all over this, but I can remember young people without any drugs, then later, young people full
of drugs, and just feel sad to see them ruining what should be the best time of their lives.
I see a society now, that accepts drugs as a normal part of life, and one must just accept it,
and also make excuses for it. There is a huge criminal element out there, who is making billions
from them, and for some reason they can't be stopped, and I really don't believe that, because there
is so much money for so many, why should they stop, there must be so many kick back
to those who should be trying to stop it, that they also become part of it.

And, it's not anyone elses fault, the fault is in the user and families, the they need to take responsibility
for themselves, and also be dealt with more severly, (but I don't know what that would be either),
many punishments just cause more problems.

It is astonishing and horrifying to me that people would purposely give a young woman date rape drugs so
they can repeatedly rape her, while others stand by and watch, or participate, take pictures, post those
pictures.

That is the bottom of the barrel in the human race, it is disgusting.

 

[JLM]

yeah, it is very disturbing indeed to see what many of the young people are doing to themselves and
others. what is wrong with the thought process of the young, when they have to shove pills into
themselves and turn themselves into something very far from what they naturally are. I don't understand
it, it is so unnatural, and at a time of their lives where they are at the threshold of adulthood, and
some are young adults, they choose to turn themselves into mentally handicapped humans, who can't make
a sensible decision, but would rather be high on almost anything.

There's just one answer for it Talloola, we middle aged people................ha ha have to go downtown with clubs and start bashing heads............maybe starting at City Hall. :lol::lol::lol:

 

[taxslave]

There is a story circulating around the lower mainland that the girl in question was a willing participant in the video until here parents found out and then she cried rape. This according to some of her friends.
The story is true but I can't verify that it is indeed the truth.

 

[gerryh]

There is a story circulating around the lower mainland that the girl in question was a willing participant in the video until here parents found out and then she cried rape. This according to some of her friends.
The story is true but I can't verify that it is indeed the truth.

No, that can't be the truth taxslave because the media is saying the opposite, and the police are saying the opposite and we all know that the media and the police NEVER stretch the truth or lie.

 

[Machjo]

No way Machjo- if she was drugged by her own free will then she is guilty of putting herself in a vulnerable position- BUT that does NOT in anyway mitigate the guilt of the perpetrators. :smile::smile:

True enough if, as you said, it was of her own free will, which at lest from the reports I've read thus far, it wasn't, and she was not aware in the least of having consumed any kind of mind-altering substance.

 

[lone wolf]

I really don't know whose version to believe because I have seen willing participants who have attacks of remorse or ill will later and I have seen genuine rape victims too. The only safe thing to say is having photo ops was a really stupid thing to do.