The 2011 Occupy Protests: A Precursor to Meaningful Action

B00Mer

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The "Occupy" movements did illustrate one major point to all politicians: there is as much anger and dissatisfaction on the political left as there is/was on the right, that led to the establishment of the Tea Party movement in the US. The anger wasn't focused on one issue or set of issues but it is there, and I think that is something the politicians need to be aware of. The "Occupiers" were derided in many quarters but they also struck some chords with many others and they shared 2 common targets with the original Tea Partiers: ineffective gov'ts and excessively powerful corporate lobbies. In large part the difference between the 2 groups is in how they feel the problems need to be addressed.

You get a good old Lefty titty-twist...

 

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[FONT=&quot]Examples of Cultural Values to Attack (monetary policy with regard to the electoral process)

An example of policy in the US that reflects distorted values is the Super PAC legislation: a political device that allows for unlimited contributions to political parties. Monetary contributions correlate with electoral success; that is, parties that receive most funding generally win. Consequently, money disrupts the democratic process in favour of the 1%.

The culture and ethics associated with the Super PAC law need be challenged and attacked. This is law that should not be.

Canadians have a similar problem, though nowhere near as democratically crippling. The $2-per-vote subsidy is an excellent democratic law, which, unfortunately, Stephen Harper has made steps to have abolished entirely by 2015.

This policy should remain. It's greater incentive to vote and allows people to not only support the party of their choice during an election but it also allows them to contribute financing to it in default of voting. Some people earn very little and don't think of donating to parties. This law allows parties to exists even if their support base is not financially strong.
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DaSleeper

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Indeed it has been!

It always makes me smile when someone attempts to insult another's intelligence and their post is chock full of common spelling errors.

So long Occupiers!



My Dad told me , when I was young..." you can't realise the value of anything unless you have earned it through your own labour"

I would guess, that all that stuff left behind, was donated???
I would hate to be the employer that hires one of those "do-nothings".......
 
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damngrumpy

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As with all social movements they have a shotgun effect in the beginning. The try to cover
too much of the spectrum. yes there is encampments of idealist people and the opposition
will foucus on the drug issues and drinking. That comes with encampments. The difference
will come when the more focussed protests begin to center of what the problems really are.
We saw the classic example of this in the early seventies. The anti war protest movement
was winding down and those still engaged in civil action and social issues changed their
focus to the environmental movement. People laughed at them, condemned them, made
fun of them and dismissed them. Withing twenty years they tried to deal with them while
maintaining the status quo. Now of course they have joined them. In my opinion the
corporate elite have now stolen their agenda and are using the environment for profit to
themselves. We are paying the people who made the mess, great sums of money to clean
it up. By that I mean reclamation companies in construction to the manufacturers of new
green products to replace the harmful ones they sold us three decades ago.
This struggle is a class struggle as much as we say it is not. After WWII the middle class
refused to accept the world the way it was so instead of revolution the corporate elite made
concessions and lately they have been clawing them back.
In fact the middle class has helped them. They bought all those RRSPs and made investment
money possible for the companies to not only profit, but to set up off shore and put their
very small time investors out of work. The same people who complain about the export of jobs
are the same middle class people buying Chinese made goods at Walmart.

As the future progresses people will have to not only define the problem they will have to change
their behaviour and respond with serious solutions and that requires more than marches and
slogans. Yes Occupy is the movement of the future and it could well become the new left
with a purpose.
 

pgs

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As with all social movements they have a shotgun effect in the beginning. The try to cover
too much of the spectrum. yes there is encampments of idealist people and the opposition
will foucus on the drug issues and drinking. That comes with encampments. The difference
will come when the more focussed protests begin to center of what the problems really are.
We saw the classic example of this in the early seventies. The anti war protest movement
was winding down and those still engaged in civil action and social issues changed their
focus to the environmental movement. People laughed at them, condemned them, made
fun of them and dismissed them. Withing twenty years they tried to deal with them while
maintaining the status quo. Now of course they have joined them. In my opinion the
corporate elite have now stolen their agenda and are using the environment for profit to
themselves. We are paying the people who made the mess, great sums of money to clean
it up. By that I mean reclamation companies in construction to the manufacturers of new
green products to replace the harmful ones they sold us three decades ago.
This struggle is a class struggle as much as we say it is not. After WWII the middle class
refused to accept the world the way it was so instead of revolution the corporate elite made
concessions and lately they have been clawing them back.
In fact the middle class has helped them. They bought all those RRSPs and made investment
money possible for the companies to not only profit, but to set up off shore and put their
very small time investors out of work. The same people who complain about the export of jobs
are the same middle class people buying Chinese made goods at Walmart.

As the future progresses people will have to not only define the problem they will have to change
their behaviour and respond with serious solutions and that requires more than marches and
slogans. Yes Occupy is the movement of the future and it could well become the new le


Yes Grumpy I know about those new green products,replacing the junk from 3 decades ago.
How is that vinyl siding on your house?
Much greener than natural growing cedar I am sure.
I bet it lasts longer as well.
 

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Thanks for the neg rep. If I am getting that from a right-wing radical like yourself I must be doing something right. Thanks again!

;-)

Sorry you got me confused with someone else. I am hardly a right wing radical unless that describes someone with a strong work ethic and a dislike for free loaders.
 

pgs

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Sorry you got me confused with someone else. I am hardly a right wing radical unless that describes someone with a strong work ethic and a dislike for free loaders.
+Does anyone realy care about negative or positive .
IF I worried about what people thought about me I would aact pollitically corect.
And that is not me.
Don't worry be happy
Peace