That Pesky North Korea Issue

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It will take 25 years minimum for unification to succeed. However the immediate costs are too great for South Korea to handle overnight. Just the pension costs and health care costs would bankrupt South Korea. If South Korea invited the North population just to visit the South, the streets would be stacked high with North Korean villagers collapsing on the Streets of South Korea with mental breakdowns.

South Korea would need at least 10 or 15 years just to prepare for unification.

China is not going to finance unification if the U.S. still has a military base in the South.

America is not going to finance it because they can't afford it and don't want unification if it means losing a military base.

And, South Korea can not do it on it's own.
 
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Hi! pgs

It will take 25 years minimum for unification to succeed. However the immediate costs are too great for South Korea to handle overnight. Just the pension costs and health care costs would bankrupt South Korea. If South Korea invited the North population just to visit the South, the streets would be stacked high with North Korean villagers collapsing on the Streets of South Korea with mental breakdowns.

South Korea would need at least 10 or 15 years just to prepare for unification.

China is not going to finance unification if the U.S. still has a military base in the South.

America is not going to finance it because they can't afford it and don't want unification if it means losing a military base.

And, South Korea can not do it on it's own.
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You live in a dream world , and your hatred of the United States clouds your vision .
 
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Why don't you tell me how you see unification happening and how long it may take to open the borders if ever it was agreed to?
 
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Why don't you tell me how you see unification happening and how long it may take to open the borders if ever it was agreed to?
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I don’t see unification as an end result of the current situation . The North are not yet ready to release their hold on the thrown .
 
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I don't think North Korea would agree to walk away from nuclear weapons if unification is not in the cards.

North Korea is in far worse shape than East Germany.

The subsequent economic restructuring and reconstruction of eastern Germany resulted in significant costs, especially for western Germany, which paid large sums of money in the form of the Solidaritätszuschlag (Solidarity Surcharge) in order to rebuild the east German infrastructure. Peer Steinbrück is quoted as saying in a 2011 interview, "Over a period of 20 years, German reunification has cost 2 trillion euros, or an average of 100 billion euros a year.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_reunification#Cost_of_reunification
 
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I don't think North Korea would agree to walk away from nuclear weapons if unification is not in the cards.

North Korea is in far worse shape than East Germany.

The subsequent economic restructuring and reconstruction of eastern Germany resulted in significant costs, especially for western Germany, which paid large sums of money in the form of the Solidaritätszuschlag (Solidarity Surcharge) in order to rebuild the east German infrastructure. Peer Steinbrück is quoted as saying in a 2011 interview, "Over a period of 20 years, German reunification has cost 2 trillion euros, or an average of 100 billion euros a year.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_reunification#Cost_of_reunification
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But what was the reward ? Germany is presently the wealthiest country in Europe .
 
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It is quite possible that the South Korean president has sort of ran ahead of everybody on this and is quite serious whereas America wants or intended to lead and not follow during these negotiations. I am beginning to think that the S. Korean president is quite serious about peace with the North.
 
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OpposingDigit said:
Hi! pgs

It will take 25 years minimum for unification to succeed. However the immediate costs are too great for South Korea to handle overnight. Just the pension costs and health care costs would bankrupt South Korea. If South Korea invited the North population just to visit the South, the streets would be stacked high with North Korean villagers collapsing on the Streets of South Korea with mental breakdowns.

South Korea would need at least 10 or 15 years just to prepare for unification.

China is not going to finance unification if the U.S. still has a military base in the South.

America is not going to finance it because they can't afford it and don't want unification if it means losing a military base.

And, South Korea can not do it on it's own.
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Germany reunified in much less time.
 
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OpposingDigit said:
It is quite possible that the South Korean president has sort of ran ahead of everybody on this and is quite serious whereas America wants or intended to lead and not follow during these negotiations. I am beginning to think that the S. Korean president is quite serious about peace with the North.
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Of course they do so does the whole world except Russia
 
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The two governments of Korea should start off by signing an open-border agreement between them. That alone would boost Korea's overall economy. South Korea would benefit only minimally at least initially but North Korea would benefit tremendously.
 
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South Korea can't afford to open the border and allow mass migration to the South from the North.

South Korea should begin family reunification visits immediately.
 
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Things are starting to look up. He could be in line for the prestigious Nobel Peace Prize.............probably wouldn't hurt his ratings!
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It’ll never be given to a Republican POTUS.
 
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The Latest: China, Japan, South Korea agree on North's nukes

TOKYO - The Latest on the Japan-China-South Korea trilateral summit (all times local):
1 p.m.
China, Japan and South Korea have agreed to work together to get North Korea to give up its nuclear weapons and on a three-way and regional free trade agreements.
The agreements came Wednesday at a meeting in Tokyo with Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe, Chinese Premier Li Keqiang and South Korean President Moon Jae-in.
It was the first such trilateral summit since November 2015.
Abe reiterated Japan's position that it would normalize ties with North Korea only if the latter took concrete steps toward abandoning its nuclear and missile programs and resolved the issue of Japanese abducted by North Korean agents.
A Japanese official said the leaders agreed to work toward both a free trade pact among themselves and the proposed Regional Comprehensive Economic Partnership with Southeast Asian nations.
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10:45 a.m.
China, South Korea and Japan have begun their first trilateral summit in more than two years.
Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe opened the summit Wednesday in Tokyo with Chinese Premier Li Keqiang and South Korean President Moon Jae-in.
They are expected to take up the recent flurry of developments on the Korean peninsula. North Korean leader Kim Jong Un met Moon on April 27 and Chinese President Xi Jinping earlier this week.
Abe said he hopes North Korea will give up its nuclear weapons in a complete and irreversible way.
Li said China is willing to work with Japan and South Korea to maintain regional stability.
The three-way summit is supposed to happen annually, but hasn't been held since November 2015 because of tense relations between Japan and China.
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9:30 a.m.
South Korean President Moon Jae-in has arrived in Japan for a summit with Japan and China that is expected to focus on North Korea's nuclear program and on improving the sometimes-frayed ties among the three northeast Asian neighbours.
Wednesday's summit is the seventh since the three-way meetings started in 2008 but only the first since 2015.
Japanese officials say the meeting comes at a crucial time, sandwiched between an inter-Korean summit and planned talks between President Donald Trump and North Korean leader Kim Jong Un.
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Moon is expected to brief Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe and Chinese Premier Li Keqiang about his recent summit with Kim.
Japanese officials say they hope the talks will also promote regional trade.
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