That Pesky North Korea Issue
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North Korea will close main nuclear test site, South says
North Korean leader Kim Jong Un told South Korean President Moon Jae-in that he will close his main nuclear test site in May and invite experts and journalists from the United States and South Korea into the country soon, a senior spokesman for Moon said Sunday.
Pyongyang will also change its time zone by half an hour to align it with Seoul time, Yoon Young-chan told reporters during a briefing Sunday.
Yoon said Kim had made the announcements during his historic meeting on Friday with Moon at the demilitarized zone between the two countries.
Sunday's announcement from Seoul came after US President Donald Trump suggested that his highly anticipated summit with Kim could come as soon as "the next three or four weeks."
https://www.cnn.com/?utm_source=CNN...eeb&utm_term=f5cd9023bd4646468418850f556dc606
the process seems to be progressing. If the two Koreas can work out a peace between them.....and reduce the "threat" to the US / and surrounding regions..........this would be momentous.
Trump will credit his bully , tactless tactics as the precipitating factors.........sobe it. Trump will take the credit anyhow. Of course America will believe that bully tactics work........and probably make them official policy now. (SOP ..Standard operating procedure.
theones doing the actual work.......are the Koran leaders.......... and things seem to be moving quite quickly now.
North Korea will close main nuclear test site, South says
North Korean leader Kim Jong Un told South Korean President Moon Jae-in that he will close his main nuclear test site in May and invite experts and journalists from the United States and South Korea into the country soon, a senior spokesman for Moon said Sunday.
Pyongyang will also change its time zone by half an hour to align it with Seoul time, Yoon Young-chan told reporters during a briefing Sunday.
Yoon said Kim had made the announcements during his historic meeting on Friday with Moon at the demilitarized zone between the two countries.
Sunday's announcement from Seoul came after US President Donald Trump suggested that his highly anticipated summit with Kim could come as soon as "the next three or four weeks."
https://www.cnn.com/?utm_source=CNN...eeb&utm_term=f5cd9023bd4646468418850f556dc606
the process seems to be progressing. If the two Koreas can work out a peace between them.....and reduce the "threat" to the US / and surrounding regions..........this would be momentous.
Trump will credit his bully , tactless tactics as the precipitating factors.........sobe it. Trump will take the credit anyhow. Of course America will believe that bully tactics work........and probably make them official policy now. (SOP ..Standard operating procedure.
theones doing the actual work.......are the Koran leaders.......... and things seem to be moving quite quickly now.
Time will tell. This wouldn't be the first time that the South and USA were hoodwinked by a dictator in the North.
Where are they moving ? Is the N.Korean regime failing ? Will there be free movement of people and goods across the border ?
It is a process........(IF it evolves into something positive).........and only time will tell. This is not for the Instant gratification crowd.. There is alot involved here..........besides the symbolic gestures we have seen so far. The intent & motivation seems to be there. The question not answered yet......is what dos NK want out of all this?? The devil is in the details........as usual.
REAKING NEWS
Kim Jong-un said he would abandon his nuclear weapons if the U.S. promised not to invade North Korea, a South Korean official said
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/04/29/...&gwh=7782A97A2C9F63D962FAC242F0512711&gwt=pay
How the feck did you make that crackpot deduction? The only organization that fits that bill is the United Nations. NATO has zip-zero-nada involvement with either North Korea or China, for that matter (unless the latter projects their power into Europe, somehow).
Man, what can I say?
Finish High School, maybe.
Because NATO formed an Alliance with Korea in 2012 in response to Pingpong's nuclear ambitions.
It was renewed in 2017.
Korea dragged them in.
Second Korean War: Would NATO Invoke Article 5?
Is it time to think through the implications for NATO if war were to break out on the Korean Peninsula?
By Franz-Stefan Gady
May 29, 2017
With tensions on the Korean Peninsula continuing to rise over North Korea’s ballistic missile program, a retired U.S. four-star general recently argued that NATO needs to think about its role in a possible Second Korean War, including whether North Korean aggression could trigger Article 5, which states that an attack on one member of the alliance is viewed as an attack on all.
Speaking at this year’s GLOBSEC 2017 Forum in Bratislava, Slovakia, retired U.S. General John Allen, the former commander of U.S. and NATO forces in Afghanistan, said that there is a hair trigger dimension to the security environment of Northeast Asia, which potentially could have wide-range consequences for NATO member states.
“I think it is not inappropriate for NATO to think through the process — if suddenly war broke out on the Korean Peninsula, what are Article 5 implications in that regard should that war be an aggressive war launched from North Korea to South Korea and American forces in the region come under widespread and long-range ballistic missile attacks,” the general said. “I am not proposing that we should invoke Article 5, but I think we should think through the potential implications of that.”
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NATO has repeatedly condemned North Korean ballistic missile and nuclear tests over the past years. In December 2016, the North Atlantic Council, together with four Asian partners — Australia, New Zealand, Japan, and the Republic of Korea — issued a statement in which they called on North Korea to “abandon all nuclear weapons and existing nuclear and ballistic missile programs in a complete, verifiable and irreversible manner; and engage in credible and authentic talks on denuclearization of the Korean Peninsula.”
More recently, NATO spokesperson Oana Lungescu condemned the May 14 ballistic missile test as “a new flagrant breach of a series of United Nations Security Council Resolutions, constituting a threat to international peace and security,” while emphasizing that “this is a time when de-escalation is needed, not provocation.” North Korea, however, was not an official subject of discussion during last week’s NATO summit.
Furthermore, NATO member states have so far not officially discussed triggering Article 5 in the context of North Korean aggression in East Asia and a potential conflict on the Korean Peninsula.
In an email exchange with The Diplomat, a NATO official said, “It is up to the NATO member states to decide, by consensus, whether a specific issue should trigger the collective defense clause that is Article 5 of the Washington Treaty. This has not been the case with respect to North Korea’s past missile tests. NATO fully supports the implementation of all UN Security Council Resolutions aimed at ending North Korea’s destabilizing behavior.”
It was renewed in 2017.
Korea dragged them in.
Second Korean War: Would NATO Invoke Article 5?
Is it time to think through the implications for NATO if war were to break out on the Korean Peninsula?
By Franz-Stefan Gady
May 29, 2017
With tensions on the Korean Peninsula continuing to rise over North Korea’s ballistic missile program, a retired U.S. four-star general recently argued that NATO needs to think about its role in a possible Second Korean War, including whether North Korean aggression could trigger Article 5, which states that an attack on one member of the alliance is viewed as an attack on all.
Speaking at this year’s GLOBSEC 2017 Forum in Bratislava, Slovakia, retired U.S. General John Allen, the former commander of U.S. and NATO forces in Afghanistan, said that there is a hair trigger dimension to the security environment of Northeast Asia, which potentially could have wide-range consequences for NATO member states.
“I think it is not inappropriate for NATO to think through the process — if suddenly war broke out on the Korean Peninsula, what are Article 5 implications in that regard should that war be an aggressive war launched from North Korea to South Korea and American forces in the region come under widespread and long-range ballistic missile attacks,” the general said. “I am not proposing that we should invoke Article 5, but I think we should think through the potential implications of that.”
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NATO has repeatedly condemned North Korean ballistic missile and nuclear tests over the past years. In December 2016, the North Atlantic Council, together with four Asian partners — Australia, New Zealand, Japan, and the Republic of Korea — issued a statement in which they called on North Korea to “abandon all nuclear weapons and existing nuclear and ballistic missile programs in a complete, verifiable and irreversible manner; and engage in credible and authentic talks on denuclearization of the Korean Peninsula.”
More recently, NATO spokesperson Oana Lungescu condemned the May 14 ballistic missile test as “a new flagrant breach of a series of United Nations Security Council Resolutions, constituting a threat to international peace and security,” while emphasizing that “this is a time when de-escalation is needed, not provocation.” North Korea, however, was not an official subject of discussion during last week’s NATO summit.
Furthermore, NATO member states have so far not officially discussed triggering Article 5 in the context of North Korean aggression in East Asia and a potential conflict on the Korean Peninsula.
In an email exchange with The Diplomat, a NATO official said, “It is up to the NATO member states to decide, by consensus, whether a specific issue should trigger the collective defense clause that is Article 5 of the Washington Treaty. This has not been the case with respect to North Korea’s past missile tests. NATO fully supports the implementation of all UN Security Council Resolutions aimed at ending North Korea’s destabilizing behavior.”
Military Industrial Complex Stocks Sent Crashing as North and South Korea Achieve Peace
North and South Korea reached a historic peace deal this week, and as the leaders from the two nations met in person for the first time and agreed to pursue an end to the Korean War, it signaled an incredible breakthrough in diplomacy and sent the stocks of defense contractors in the United States crashing.
When North Korea’s Kim Jong-un shook hands with South Korea’s Moon Jae-in for the first time on Friday, they put thousands of people both at home and around the world at ease, as they agreed to a peace deal that has the power to break the tension that has been between the two countries for decades.
However, while peace may seem like the best possible outcome to the average person who is aware of how the ongoing war has hurt both North and South Korea over the years, it is a resolution that hurts the United States military-industrial complex, as can be seen by the results from stocks following the meeting.
More: http://thefreethoughtproject.com/lo...ary-stocks-sent-crashing-by-korea-peace-deal/
North and South Korea reached a historic peace deal this week, and as the leaders from the two nations met in person for the first time and agreed to pursue an end to the Korean War, it signaled an incredible breakthrough in diplomacy and sent the stocks of defense contractors in the United States crashing.
When North Korea’s Kim Jong-un shook hands with South Korea’s Moon Jae-in for the first time on Friday, they put thousands of people both at home and around the world at ease, as they agreed to a peace deal that has the power to break the tension that has been between the two countries for decades.
However, while peace may seem like the best possible outcome to the average person who is aware of how the ongoing war has hurt both North and South Korea over the years, it is a resolution that hurts the United States military-industrial complex, as can be seen by the results from stocks following the meeting.
More: http://thefreethoughtproject.com/lo...ary-stocks-sent-crashing-by-korea-peace-deal/
Last week you said the were skyrocketing. Will one of the Cliffs please make up their shared mind?
I met that guy , powerful man , exudes confidence.
Personally I would like the North Korean people have the same rights and opportunity as their southern neighbor .
I think Trump frightened the South Korean People and not North Kore
I think that South Korea realized that Trump was okay with using South Korean citizens as cannon fodder as America pursues world hegemony.
I have no doubt that bright and early this morning, the CIA has began plans to oust Moon Jae-In as President to prevent closer ties between the South and North.
If left to public opinion, South Korea and Japan would not have U.S. military bases on their soil.
I think that South Korea realized that Trump was okay with using South Korean citizens as cannon fodder as America pursues world hegemony.
I have no doubt that bright and early this morning, the CIA has began plans to oust Moon Jae-In as President to prevent closer ties between the South and North.
If left to public opinion, South Korea and Japan would not have U.S. military bases on their soil.
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Well it appears your thinking is off. The South Korean president is calling for Trump to receive the Nobel Peace Prize .
Hi! pgs
The South Korean president complimented Trump just as the French president did during his recent U.S. visit. That is how you suck-hole with Trump. Immediately after the French president sucked-up to Trump in the garden, Macron then went in front of congress and bad-mouthed Trump policies.
The U.S. is just tolerating this new South Korean president. One needs to remember just how loyal the South Korean military is to America, and how (just before the election of the new S. Korea president) the military snuck in U.S. patriot missiles without public discussion. The S. Korean military loves their toys, and they prance the world with pride with having the most sophisticated weaponry ..... not like Canada where the military is kind of ashamed to be crawling around with ancient equipment.
Also; South Korea may desire closer ties, but it does not want a quick unification. The financial burden would be too prohibitive. It is quite a different situation as was with East/West Germany. In North Korea, the costs of healthcare alone is huge after years of malnourishment. Add to that, the mental health care after a lifetime of indoctrination. In East/West Germany, at least they had some sense of modern technology and news events.
The South Korean president complimented Trump just as the French president did during his recent U.S. visit. That is how you suck-hole with Trump. Immediately after the French president sucked-up to Trump in the garden, Macron then went in front of congress and bad-mouthed Trump policies.
The U.S. is just tolerating this new South Korean president. One needs to remember just how loyal the South Korean military is to America, and how (just before the election of the new S. Korea president) the military snuck in U.S. patriot missiles without public discussion. The S. Korean military loves their toys, and they prance the world with pride with having the most sophisticated weaponry ..... not like Canada where the military is kind of ashamed to be crawling around with ancient equipment.
Also; South Korea may desire closer ties, but it does not want a quick unification. The financial burden would be too prohibitive. It is quite a different situation as was with East/West Germany. In North Korea, the costs of healthcare alone is huge after years of malnourishment. Add to that, the mental health care after a lifetime of indoctrination. In East/West Germany, at least they had some sense of modern technology and news events.
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South Korea is a rich first world country . The people of N.Korea are of the same ethnic makeup . If the North were allowed free movement of people and goods , they would catch up to the south’s riches in a spectacular fashion .