Texas execution sparks international legal debate

Praxius

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K..sorry didnt realize you thought that Mexicans raping/murdering Americans shouldn't get the needle like Americans raping/murdering Americans..but whatever..**** Bush! (Right?)

Didn't expect you to get it anyways.

Yeah brilliant.... what did you say?

"So, when should we expect the first bus load of all those military deserters hiding out in Canada, to show up at Ft Leavenworth?"

Where do you find a relation of people who cross our border to avoid fighting your BS war... to Mexicans raping and murdering children?

By all means, explain how you magically pulled that one out of your arse.

But you did say something like "Exactly my point" about treaties and laws and stuff just above this didn't you?

Hmm.

Indeed... when your lovely american army resisters decide to commit crimes in our country, I hope they're treated the same was as any other Canadian who would commit the same crime..... it's only fair afterall.

So once again, where is your excuse for us to bus back all your former soldiers who defected? That would be helping your country with your own legal troubles with nothing really involving to us.... where as a mexican raping/killing children in your country, is executed in your country by your own laws? The two simply do not relate.

I could see us charging and finding guilty a US Citizen in our nation and giving him the same sentance any other Canadian would, which would relate to the example of the Rape/murder above..... but what you said makes no sense in relation.

By the actions of those in Texas on this case, the gloves are off when it comes to people in the US getting involved in crimes, be that accidental or intentional, in other countries.... you no longer have any real protection against the laws of other nations..... and as mentioned by someone else, I'd hope you guys avoid visiting Iran or China anytime soon.

Oh wait, the games are on in China.... be on your best behavior there.
 

Zzarchov

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And China will do what?

The problem with international laws is there is no international police to enforce them.

China could detain an American citizen without consul whenever it wants regardless of what America does. But regardless of what America has done with Mexico, China will have to weigh denying consular visits to the possibilities of crippling sanctions or worse, America declaring China a hostile nation and writing off all Chinese debt as invalid.

In turn, America has to worry about China selling off its American debt to someone else.
 

Scott Free

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And if one of us does go about raping and murdering teenage girls...to hell with them..maybe Iran could dish out some of that humane stoning stuff..which would be too nice in my opinion anyways....

Better yet, without due process we just have to think your guilty; maybe get your brother to turn on you for evidence.
 

unclepercy

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If the rest of you want to bend over and take it in the Schitter from some court with absoultely no authority whatsoever, then by al means..lube it up!

And if one of us does go about raping and murdering teenage girls...to hell with them..maybe Iran could dish out some of that humane stoning stuff..which would be too nice in my opinion anyways....

One more edit..lol...If an American so much as flicked a booger on the f'ing sidewalk in Iran it would be an f'ing international incident....your example country is crap...like killing that Mexican is suddenly going to make everyone hate us...think we are there already..but at least we have all the right sort of folks hating us.

By the way, Texas has signed no treaties with any Foreign government..we can't...its kinda aginst the law here.

Thomaska -- You are from Texas? Guess I haven't been paying attention lately. This weather has melted my brain - 107!!!

Have you been reading the articles about the wave of Mexicans going back home, and then upon arrival, the Mexican gov. isn't able to meet their needs - schooling, medical, housing?

I guess we could secede from the union and do fairly nicely with the Barnett Shale. After all, Texas is bigger than France. We could make and enforce our own laws.

Uncle - Yes, a Texan
 

Zzarchov

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Isn't the theory that under technicality, Texas never joined the union and remains an independant state?
 

unclepercy

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Theory? When Texas joined the union in 1845, certain assurances were demanded. One was that Texas reserve the oil and mineral rights on state property (which helps fund state colleges), also we can fly our flag above the US flag, and lastly, we can secede from the union if we choose.

Uncle
 

Colpy

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The guy tortured, and raped two teenage girls for over an hour, then kicked them to death. Then when one of them showed a faint sign of life, he and his buddies, of which another had already been sent to hell by Texas a few years ago, strangled them both with a belt, "just to be sure". And he readily bragged about it to whoever would listen, and confessed to the police that he did it too.

So allll the "hubbub" is over whether or not he got to talk to his Consulate, like that would have made a bit of difference. In Texas, you see, if you like to rape torture, and kill folks, we like to kill you back. We're fair like that.

So a big "F.U" goes out to you liberal weenies( if the shoe fits, wear it), and in case you hadn't noticed, its pretty much open season on us anyways. We're used to it.

Not sure who this International Court is, but they can go pound sand in their ass too.

Well said.
 

Walter

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I hope they cut his balls off before he got the needle.
 

tracy

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If Texas doesn't want to obey the law and their treaties then they will be treated like criminals. I feel sorry for any Americans that get themselves in trouble in a like minded country; say Iran or somewhere.

Do you really think a country like Iran would treat Americans nicely if Americans just stopped executing Mexican citizens who had lived almost their whole lives in the US and participated in gang raping, torturing and murdering a couple of children? And do you think Americans would really care if an American were executed in a foreign country after doing those things to a couple of their citizens?

BTW, did this disgusting person ever even ASK for a consular visit? Would it have made any difference in the outcome of his trial? Does that even matter?
 

scratch

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Do you really think a country like Iran would treat Americans nicely if Americans just stopped executing Mexican citizens who had lived almost their whole lives in the US and participated in gang raping, torturing and murdering a couple of children? And do you think Americans would really care if an American were executed in a foreign country after doing those things to a couple of their citizens?

BTW, did this disgusting person ever even ASK for a consular visit? Would it have made any difference in the outcome of his trial? Does that even matter?


It wouldn't have!
 

Zzarchov

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How?

this is the consular visit:

Mexican Official: "Hello, We have no authority to help you in this matter, I hope you burn your sick ****"

Gang Rapist: "Anyone Speak Spanish? What did that guy say?"

And no on is going to treat the Americans any different. Not in any way anyone will care.