Terrorist attack in London

[Vanni Fucci]

http://toronto.cbc.ca/regional/servlet/View?filename=to_mclellan20050711

That's right everyone...every morning, and until Annie tells you otherwise, you must stick your head between your legs and kiss your ass goodbye...because tomorrow a suicide bomber may just ruin your day...

How about we all choose not to ingest their fear pill... :thumbleft:

 

[mrmom2]

F**King A Vanni That pill should be shoved up the ass of the spin doctors that are pushing this fear :wink:

 

[I think not]

Ask the people in Toronto that take the subway everyday and go to work if they don't -- at the very least -- think about it.

 

[mrmom2]

Lets not forget Vancouvers Sky train too :wink: and New Yorks huge subway system :wink:

 

[Canucklehead]

http://toronto.cbc.ca/regional/servlet/View?filename=to_mclellan20050711

/rant

The first thing that went through my head reading this was "what does she know that's not being told?" Outside that, I was dismayed that a Canadian minister would deliberately stir the pot on this front. Psychologically prepared? Get real! What exactly does that mean? Are there psych. training courses we can all take to be prepared for every little eventuality in our lives? Ms McLellan should really give her employers (read: we taxpayers) some eff'ing credit and lose the Chicken Little impression, it's very unbecoming.
At the risk of sounding a tad callous in light of the London bombs, if it happens, it happens, and there is bugger all we can do about it except get on with things. I, for one, refuse to be cowed into some pathetic fearful mindset at the unknown because some ass(es) feel like taking out an office building or two.

/rant off

Nice weather we're having today, eh?

 

[Jo Canadian]

Lets not forget Vancouvers Sky train too :wink: and New Yorks huge subway system :wink:

They'd probably want to hit us where it hurts though. An Economically practctical target would be the Tar Sands around ft. Mcmurray. Or nailing any port such as Halifax or Vancouver where large ships import and export.

If they want to hit us culturally...Well that would be harder since we have so many cultural identities that it wouldn't effect everyone beyond the culture being targeted. In that way Canada's like a Cultural Hydra if it comes to targeting that aspect. :lol: Even if Parliment got hit, there would be many who would be Guffawing.


Actually this could almost be a new thread. :idea:

 

[bulldog]

Calling Ocean Breeze!

You owe me an apology for not reading Mog's post properly.
Come on - California. Be nice.

Bull Dog

I was just giving you an example that if i go and invade your house you will fight me back with whatever you can. Anything wrong there.

As for Ocean Breeze having her nose in my arse i would have to disagree. She is a very intelligent women on her own.

As for an apology, why would anyone apologize to you. You insulted me big time and you owe me an apology.

I did not insult your personally. I admitted to a phobia, which is a legitimate psychological condition. BTW, I am also phobic about fish. I do not see why I am expected to apologize for a phobia.
But, I will - I apologize. I want you to know that I am not alone.
Here is an excerpt from a song by Janis Ian:

I'm nervous for the president
and for the fbi
I'm nervous for the government
and I don't want to fly
I'm nervous 'bout the arabs
when I look up at the sky
and I think I'm being hijacked
when you look me in the eye
I'm really nervous

BTW, Janis Ian is a gay woman who got married in Canada. I will try to find other proof that I am not alone in my phobia.

Bull Dog

 

[peapod]

Stranger: ...Just one thing, Dude. D'ya have to use s'many cuss words?
Dude: The f*** are you talking about?
Stranger: Okay, have it your way.

 

[Ocean Breeze]

London Bombings - 'We are all ...."
Felicity Arbuthnot and Luci Carolan


July 11, 2005

The innocent always bear the scars, suffer the ultimate sacrifice, of mistaken political policies.

However, the sadness of the deaths and casualties of 7/7 have been compounded by the reckless language of lawyers who should know better. Prime Minister Blair and Foreign Secreatry Jack Straw near instantly pointed the finger in intemporate language, at Islam. The pieces, the injured, the bodies and body parts were still being treated, accounted for and retrieved - there is no evidence as to who committed these acts. 'Guilty until proved innocent' is a new facet to British justice.

Today a white tent has been erected at the side of the Thames, in Embankment Gardens and designated a Memorial Garden. Flowers have been planted and white bouquets left by Ministers and Church dignitaries and a book of condolence opened. 'We are all Londoners today', we were told on the day of the tragedy.

A white tent is often erected at Muslim mournings, of course. So may we add also the humblest and most inadequate of apologies to those to whom in our name, the same unimaginable grief has been visited. There is a countless humanity who are not alone 'all Londoners today'. Today, we are also 'all' Iraqis, Afghans, Palestinians, the forgotten of the Balkans war.

We are also all from the seventeen other nations, forgotten victims of American aggression, since the 'liberation' of Europe in 1945 -

China 1945-46, 1950-53
Korea 1950-53
Guatemala 1954, 1960, 1967-69
Indonesia 1958
Cuba 1959-61
Congo 1964
Peru 1965
Laos 1964-73
Vietnam 1961-73
Cambodia 1969-70
Lebanon 1983-84
Grenada 1983
Libya 1986
El Salvador 1980s
Nicaragua 1980s
Panama 1989
Sudan 1998

Any human heart bleeds for any tragedy, anywhere. And that is the key. Humanity shares tragedy. John Donne, British thinker and poet, dead nearly four hundred years is as poignant, now as then.
He truly speaks for our common humanity which transcends race, language, location, colour -

'No man is an island, entire unto itself,
Every man is a piece of the -globe -
A part of the main.
Any man's death diminishes me,
I am involved in Mankind,
And therefore, never send to know for whom the bell tolls,
It tolls for thee.'

 

[moghrabi]

Calling Ocean Breeze!

You owe me an apology for not reading Mog's post properly.
Come on - California. Be nice.

Bull Dog

I was just giving you an example that if i go and invade your house you will fight me back with whatever you can. Anything wrong there.

As for Ocean Breeze having her nose in my arse i would have to disagree. She is a very intelligent women on her own.

As for an apology, why would anyone apologize to you. You insulted me big time and you owe me an apology.

I did not insult your personally. I admitted to a phobia, which is a legitimate psychological condition. BTW, I am also phobic about fish. I do not see why I am expected to apologize for a phobia.
But, I will - I apologize. I want you to know that I am not alone.
Here is an excerpt from a song by Janis Ian:

I'm nervous for the president
and for the fbi
I'm nervous for the government
and I don't want to fly
I'm nervous 'bout the arabs
when I look up at the sky
and I think I'm being hijacked
when you look me in the eye
I'm really nervous

BTW, Janis Ian is a gay woman who got married in Canada. I will try to find other proof that I am not alone in my phobia.

Bull Dog

Thank you for your apology. But I would like to share my fear of Americans too. Everytime I look in the sky I see an F-16 with bombs being dropped on inncoent civilians. Everytime I fill up my tank at the gas station, I think of how many innocent people died for this.

I also have a phobia. A phobia of your president, your FBI and your governement.

I'm nervous by your president
and by the fbi
I'm nervous by your government
and I don't want to fly
I'm nervous 'bout the americans
when I look up at the sky
and I think I'm being cheated
when your president gives us another lie
I'm really nervous

 

[Ocean Breeze]

fear of Americans

there are a lot of nations/people who are "afraid" of the current US. One might say, that this is exactly what the current US wants . It is using "fear" to control other nations/peoples now. The language of the US politicians is one of threats , and fear engendering vocabularly. This language also incites anger.

Maybe this is what makes them feel so "powerful" too. Power through fear and threats & muscle. Not the way to get along with others on this small planet.

(imho)

 

[moghrabi]

A Warning To The World

The London bombings are a clear indication that the Globalists have not changed tactics and are getting ever more desperate to advance an agenda based on a simple time tested manipulation of fear.

It is now time for all governments who still operate outside of the control of the Globalists to come forward and join humanity in unveiling the real terrorists who are attempting to deform the world into a prison planet.

......... http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/july2005/110705warningtotheworld.htm

 

[moghrabi]

Al-Qaeda and the Real Trinity of Terror

Regardless of what you may think of the medieval theocrats at the helm in Iran, they do have a point, one never heard in the “free press” (corporate media and propaganda service) in the United States: al-Qaeda is an intelligence operation cooked up long ago in the murky depths of the intelligence underworld. “Has the British prime minister forgotten who Al-Qaeda’s parents are? I remind him then that the United States is Al-Qaeda’s father and Israel is the mother of that illegitimate child,” Ayatollah Mohammad Emami Kashani declared after the London bombings in response to Blair’s criticism of Islam. “It was you yourselves that created this group in the name of Islam and therefore the conduct of a child whose father is the global arrogance, or the White House, and its mothers are the Israeli butchers should not surprise anyone…. You also armed the former Iraqi president Saddam Hussein to teeth with all kinds of armaments to create problems for Iran, but it is again you yourselves that are caught in Iraq’s quagmires.”

...... http://kurtnimmo.com/blog/?p=815

 

[Ocean Breeze]

http://news.scotsman.com/index.cfm?id=790322005

Blair rejects inquiry ( :?: :? :?: ) and hints at new "anti terror laws"

wouldn't be following the bush model....now would he???

 

[I think not]

Perhaps it takes a terror attack to understand the mindset?

 

[Ocean Breeze]

Perhaps it takes a terror attack to understand the mindset?

don't think so. One cannot say that the UK is inexperienced in the area of terrorism.

the question remains: why not an inquiry?? One would think that is an important aspect of it all.

 

[Jay]

http://news.scotsman.com/index.cfm?id=790322005

The question only remains in certain people's minds.

"The Prime Minister flatly rejected calls for a public inquiry into possible intelligence failures - but said an internal procedure was under way and lessons may well be drawn from its findings. "

"But Downing Street had rejected this before the debate - saying it would impede both the investigation and the identification of the bodies by taking up time and resources. "


So what’s to question? You couldn’t have read the link you posted.

 

[Hard-Luck Henry]

I think there will have to be an inquiry at some point, if only to put an end to some of the unhelpful speculation that we see at present; there are questions that will have to be answered, regarding the recent downgrading of London's security level, for instance. Also, whilst preventing attacks like this is a difficult task, I'm certain that - just like 9-11 and Madrid - there will aspects of this attack that would hace been detectable, preventable even. Lessons need to be learnt, and an official inquiry is a good way to do this.

 

[missile]

Agreed! But,in a few months,after the investigation is complete. There is plenty of evidence yet to be gathered.

 

[I think not]

Unfortunately inquiry or not, it won't do any good for conspiracy theorists. The news had not travelled around the world and everyone accuse the UK government of "knowing" in advance or even plotting the bombs. You don't have to go far, look at the initial posts on this thread.