Syrian blogger sentenced to three years in jail

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http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNe...0514/Syrian_blogger_080514/20080514?hub=World

DAMASCUS, Syria -- A human rights group says a 24-year-old Syrian blogger has been convicted and sentenced to three years in prison on charges of undermining the prestige of the state and weakening national morale.


In a statement sent to The Associated Press on Wednesday, The National Organization for Human Rights in Syria condemned the verdict issued the day before as "outrageous'' and called for Tarek Bayassi's immediate release.


The rights group says Bayassi's sentence was commuted to three years after an original sentence of six years.


Bayassi was arrested last May in northwest Syria for surfing sites of Syrian opposition groups and posting comments online.


The Syrian government frequently arrests activists for posting comments critical of the government online.
 

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We're just as bad.

You break the laws of a country, you should face the penalties. Do you think rapists and child molesters get it nice and easy in our own jails? Me thinks not. The US still executes their prisoners, so we're not that far ahead. And regardless if the prison guards do the beatings or our prison guards let the other prisoners do it for them, there's no difference.
 

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We're just as bad? The guy was surfing the net and making posts and is now going to jail for three years! The guy wasn't murdering or raping...he was doing what you do everyday!
 

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We're just as bad.

You break the laws of a country, you should face the penalties. Do you think rapists and child molesters get it nice and easy in our own jails? Me thinks not. The US still executes their prisoners, so we're not that far ahead. And regardless if the prison guards do the beatings or our prison guards let the other prisoners do it for them, there's no difference.

OMG, I don't believe this crap.

Listen carefully, now:

WE DON'T SEND PEOPLE TO JAIL FOR EXPRESSING POLITICAL VIEWS CONTRARY TO THOSE OF THE GOVERNMENT....if we did, you would be long gone.

WE DON'T BEAT THE SOLES OF PEOPLES' FEET WITH STEEL CABLES. In fact, we have protective custody for those threatened by other prisoners....That's why people like Clifford Olsen are still alive....unfortunately.

GEEZUs, are you people rea;lly that ****ing obtuse?

For Christ's sake, get the hell out of my country, and go live in Syria, or China, or whatever other misbegotten society you please........jusy don't come crying to me when you get in shiit....

Oh, I'm sorry, you wouldn't get in ****, would you?

You'd be too damn busy licking the arse of whatever murdering little despot happened to be in power....like you say, you wouldn't want to break the law, would you? And to hell with those that actually have the cojones to resist! You only admire resistors when they know they are perfectly safe....like WTO protesters.

You make me ****ing sick.

IDIOTS IDIOTS! Self-hating, appeasing, stupid, blind, moronic dimwits. YOU, and people like you, will be the destruction of western civilization

PLEASE grow a brain.

Yes, I've lost patience.

I have limited tolerance for the brain dead.
 

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We're just as bad? The guy was surfing the net and making posts and is now going to jail for three years! The guy wasn't murdering or raping...he was doing what you do everyday!

Indeed he was.... but what I do isn't illegal here... yet. As mentioned before, follow the laws in the country you are in and you won't goto jail. If you don't like it, move/leave... as many here like to proclaim.

Apparently Syria doesn't take kindly to people "undermining the prestige of the state and weakening national morale" ~ So don't do it within their borders.... seems simple enough for me.
 

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OMG, I don't believe this crap.

Oh believe it... I typed it, so it must be true :p

Listen carefully, now:

*places folded hands under chin and listens carefully*...... Oh wait... I don't hear anything, because it's text.... how silly *starts reading*

WE DON'T SEND PEOPLE TO JAIL FOR EXPRESSING POLITICAL VIEWS CONTRARY TO THOSE OF THE GOVERNMENT....if we did, you would be long gone.

Which is another reason why I don't step into the US.

WE DON'T BEAT THE SOLES OF PEOPLES' FEET WITH STEEL CABLES. In fact, we have protective custody for those threatened by other prisoners....That's why people like Clifford Olsen are still alive....unfortunately.

Sorry, your generalization doesn't match the details of the article.... I didn't see any information in regards to his feet getting spanked by steel cables.

GEEZUs, are you people rea;lly that ****ing obtuse?

*raises hand* OOooo Ooooo.... I am when I want to be, does that count?

For Christ's sake, get the hell out of my country, and go live in Syria, or China, or whatever other misbegotten society you please........jusy don't come crying to me when you get in shiit....

Sorry, didn't see your name on a big golden plaque on the doors of parlament saying "Property Of...." It is not "Your" country.... it is "Our" country..... get used to different views and opinions. And just because I don't pick the sides you like doesn't mean I'm all willing to jump into another country just because you say so.... get over yourself.

Oh, I'm sorry, you wouldn't get in ****, would you?

No, not I.... I'm just a wovable, widdle wookie


You'd be too damn busy licking the arse of whatever murdering little despot happened to be in power....like you say, you wouldn't want to break the law, would you? And to hell with those that actually have the cojones to resist! You only admire resistors when they know they are perfectly safe....like WTO protesters.

Gotta love generalizations and assumptions... as we all have them. Would I break the law over there? Of course not, don't be so silly.... I wouldn't move there to begin with, just like I won't move to the US for similar reasons.

You make me ****ing sick.

Here's a bucket....

IDIOTS IDIOTS! Self-hating,

I don't hate myself....

appeasing,

I just point out similarities.... sorry if they sting sometimes.


My mom sez I'm smrt.


I must be talented to sense the atom-structure of letters emitting from the radiation from my monitor to read what you're posting if I'm blind...... once again.... I must be smrt.

moronic dimwits. YOU, and people like you, will be the destruction of western civilization


EXCELLENT! I can't wait until that day.....

PLEASE grow a brain.

I've tried that before but I keep over watering it.

Yes, I've lost patience.

I have limited tolerance for the brain dead.

Then my work here is done.... for now.
 

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Colpy's obviously having a bad day but you gotta admit it's intellectually outrageous to compare the consequence of rape and murder with that of expressing a political view.

Point, Colpy.
 

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Colpy's obviously having a bad day but you gotta admit it's intellectually outrageous to compare the consequence of rape and murder with that of expressing a political view.

Point, Colpy.

Comparing what we find legal and illegal in our own country to another totally different country is sort of irrelevent, unless you and I can actually do something about it.... but we can't, not unless you wish to fight their entire military to force change.... and even then the majority of the population are acustomed to their own way of life. As we are seeing in Iraq.... trying to force our way of life on them is probably not going to work out all that well.

So pointing our fingers at them from across the world and trying to make ourselves feel that we're oh so much better then they are doesn't make all that much sense. In certain aspects they have more freedoms then we do, and in other ways, we have more freedoms then they do..... it's what we're born and raised to be used to, just like themselves.

Therefore, if they feel it's considdered a serious crime in their country to do what he did, and it's well known in their country not to do that.... and he's caught.... then them's the breaks. I have no personal desire to fight for his freedom, much like I didn't have any desire to fight for Mss Martin in Mexico.... don't break the law in another country, and you'll do fine.
 

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and even then the majority of the population are acustomed to their own way of life.
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Therefore, if they feel it's considdered a serious crime in their country to do what he did, and it's well known in their country not to do that.... and he's caught.... then them's the breaks.

Apparently The National Organization for Human Rights in Syria disagrees with your viewpoint.
 

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Comparing what we find legal and illegal in our own country to another totally different country is sort of irrelevent, unless you and I can actually do something about it.... but we can't, not unless you wish to fight their entire military to force change.... and even then the majority of the population are acustomed to their own way of life. As we are seeing in Iraq.... trying to force our way of life on them is probably not going to work out all that well.

So pointing our fingers at them from across the world and trying to make ourselves feel that we're oh so much better then they are doesn't make all that much sense. In certain aspects they have more freedoms then we do, and in other ways, we have more freedoms then they do..... it's what we're born and raised to be used to, just like themselves.

Therefore, if they feel it's considdered a serious crime in their country to do what he did, and it's well known in their country not to do that.... and he's caught.... then them's the breaks. I have no personal desire to fight for his freedom, much like I didn't have any desire to fight for Mss Martin in Mexico.... don't break the law in another country, and you'll do fine.

First of all, Ms. Martin probably DIDN'T break any Mexican laws.....that's the point.

AND, what drives me nuts is not those who would remain uninvolved....fine.....it is those who are so relativist they can't see how superior our system is to that of the worst tyrannies on earth.
 

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"Our system" has contributed mightily to atrocities all over the world! "Our system supports the regime of Saudi Arabia where their law is that prisoners don't languish in air-conditioned comfort with cable TV either.... And it's Ok to support one fanatical extremist when your needs are being met but not OK to do the same when there's nothing in-it for you....right?

No balance Colpy.
 

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Colpy

"Our system" has contributed mightily to atrocities all over the world! "Our system supports the regime of Saudi Arabia where their law is that prisoners don't languish in air-conditioned comfort with cable TV either.... And it's Ok to support one fanatical extremist when your needs are being met but not OK to do the same when there's nothing in-it for you....right?

No balance Colpy.


We buy Saudi Oil. That doesn't make us responsible for everything they do.
 

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I'm not familiar with your position or input on this topic but over-all, I agree that holding a monarchy responsible for its actions seems to be selective in the eyes of the west. It's OK for the United States to install and establish oppressive governments (with Canadian support) in nations in various locations around the world...and then deny responsibility for the outcomes of those actions and interference...?

While the idea that our buying Saudi oil might not be characterized as "supporting" the regime itself, when hairs are being split along the lines of "If you're not with us then you're with the terrorists"....the intent seems fairly clear.

Terrorism and brutality that suit your needs and satisfies your appetites is acceptable while regimes that oppose your "will" are treacherous and dangerous....

It's a selective perspective on the world in my opinion.
 

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While the idea that our buying Saudi oil might not be characterized as "supporting" the regime itself, when hairs are being split along the lines of "If you're not with us then you're with the terrorists"....the intent seems fairly clear.
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It's a selective perspective on the world in my opinion.

I couldn't agree more. I'd be all for an emabargo of Saudi oil. The trouble is, it would hurt third world and developing countries a lot more than it would hurt the west. But there you have it. It's one of the biggest ironies in the world today....we are the biggest financial supporters of those who are plotting our demise. We're not allowed to say so though, because that would be offensive to them, you see.
 

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No I don't think that when the pumps went dry in New York or Los Angeles that many Americans would be considering the hardships being felt by anyone else anywhere in the world. I think it would be terrific to watch as Americans finally experienced what they've had no qualms about doing to millions of people all over the world.
 

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No I don't think that when the pumps went dry in New York or Los Angeles that many Americans would be considering the hardships being felt by anyone else anywhere in the world. I think it would be terrific to watch as Americans finally experienced what they've had no qualms about doing to millions of people all over the world.

I think you underestimate Americans. If push came to shove, you would see alternate fuel engines and alternative energy sources absolutely BOOM in the U.S. The U.S. could actually do without Saudi Oil quite handily. It only accounts for a minor percentage of their imports. The hardships felt by others around the world would be very real indeed, regardless of the consideration given by Americans.