Svend making a comeback?

[Reverend Blair]

RE: Svend making a comeba

Vic Toews has pleaded guilty to breaking Manitoba election law. Stockwell Day tried to influence a court case in Alberta by trying to intimidate a lawyer. The province of Alberta paid his legal bills.

Those are both much more worrying records for elected officials to have because they tried to subvert our political and legal systems.

As long as Day and Toews are running for office, you can STFU about Svend.

 

[peapod]

Don't listen to either one of them rev, its just bait. Regardless neither of you two get to decide do you? no matter how many names you call him. Its the people of british columbia that will decide. They have no problem electing a convicted drunk driver. Who are either of you to say that someone cannot have another chance. Who are you to say that someone cannot make up and give back to the community for a crime, that they answered for. Who are you to condem people because they can forgive someone for whatever reasons. I suggest you attend your favorite "house" in the morning :roll:

 

[Durgan]

Who the hell is keepiong this queer thread alive?
Durgan.

 

[no1important]

RE: Svend making a comeba

It is not a "Queer thread" it is a thread about Svend making a political comeback nothing more.

But some posters decided to bring up his sexuality for some bizarre reason. His sexuality has nothing to do with his political comeback.

If he was "straight" his sexuality would not of been brought up or mentioned.

Bottom line is, he has a mental illness, he stole a ring, received his punishment, lost his job and now he wants his job back. The people of Vancouver centre will decide if he gets his job back.

It has nothing todo with his sexuality. :roll:

 

[Reverend Blair]

RE: Svend making a comeba

What it really has to do with is a nasty piece of yellow journalism that MacLean's took part in this week. They have a new editor who comes from the National Post and, before that I believe he was at the Westrn Standard, or maybe one of the Byfield family's tabloid propaganda mags.

That editor needs to be fired at any rate. He put an editorial/hatchet piece as the cover story of a news magazine. Real journalists don't do that.

 

[Ted]

Funny how the only people here that have actually had Svend on their ballot, and who have seen first hand what an exceptional MP he was are drowned out by those that:
1) Cannot vote for or against him, and never have,
2) Have no idea how accessible and hardworking he was in and for the community. I can say that he is loved and respected in Burnaby Douglas.
3) When challenged with Svend's outstanding record as a Member of Parliament, they bring up his sexuality, as if that has anything to do with anything.

Judging from the length of this thread and the desperate attempts to destroy his reputation, he must be a threat to some people out there!

Yo go, Svend! Hope to see you back in Ottawa where you belong.

 

[SteveinBC]

Svend is a perfect example of the old saying, 'the fact that someone wants to be a politician probably makes them wrong for the job'. By his own admission, he is a mentally unbalanced thief. He is a shameless publicity hound -- a bit like Jesse Jackson in the US -- desperate to inject himself into any event, even if he has no personal expertise in the matter (ie causing an international incident in Israel), as long as there will be lots of publicity and camera time. The ring episode wasn’t the first time he’d broken the law – he was fined and jailed for disobeying an injunction in a logging blockade in the Queen Charlottes – he assisted in a home suicide – he participated in a riot and disobeyed the police in Quebec – a shameless publicity seeker. Is this the way our MP’s should behave – breaking the laws they don’t believe in? What kind of example is that for the majority of law-abiding Canadians?

He’s running against Hedy Fry, a foolishly arrogant liar, who claimed crosses were burning on lawns in Prince George ‘as we speak’, making up quotes for her political opponents, and writing false prescriptions in her medical practice. A real gem…

I'm sure glad I don't have to vote in this riding -- talk about having to choose the 'lesser of two evils'. If the Conservatives can’t win this one, they might as well give up…

Why can’t the federal political parties attract quality candidates -- people who have proven themselves honest and capable in their professions – people who have done some honest work in their lives? The idea of career politicians is troubling, and guaranteed to produce highly flawed candidates like Fry and Robinson.

 

[no1important]

RE: Svend making a comeba

Is this the way our MP’s should behave – breaking the laws they don’t believe in? What kind of example is that for the majority of law-abiding Canadians?

Yes.

Funny Svend has no criminal record from any of his stunts, so he stays within the law (except for ring). I agree he likes the limelight, but so what? At least it gets people talking about the issues and further more in his old Burnaby riding he kept getting re elected, so obviously his "limelight garnering" behaviour was not much of an issue.

 

[Colpy]

In Svend's defense (believe it or not), I think the Queen Charlotte logging deal and the fight at Quebec City were perfectly acceptable episodes of civil disobedience.

I would not condemn him for those.

Aiding in a assisted suicide is NOT civil disobedience.

Stealing rings is not civil disobedience.

For those he deserves criticism.

 

[SteveinBC]

Re: RE: Svend making a comeba

Is this the way our MP’s should behave – breaking the laws they don’t believe in? What kind of example is that for the majority of law-abiding Canadians?

Yes.

Funny Svend has no criminal record from any of his stunts, so he stays within the law (except for ring). I agree he likes the limelight, but so what? At least it gets people talking about the issues and further more in his old Burnaby riding he kept getting re elected, so obviously his "limelight garnering" behaviour was not much of an issue.

The only time a politican should be behaving like this, is if his constituants want him/her doing it. Folks living in that riding should be so embarrassed by Svend, that they ensure his return to real world, where he'll have to earn an honest living. He's probably discovered since the ring episode, that it's too difficult to do real work and that politics are easier and the pay is better.

I want my MP working full time in my riding, working on all the everyday problems that exist there -- not like Svend, galivanting all over Canada (and the world...), tilting at windmills, as assorted high-profile events seize his attention. Thats not what his electorate voted for, and it is not what he is paid for.

Like Jessee Jackson, Svend probably had aspirations to higher (perhaps the highest) office. Jessee fancied himself as Presidend -- Svend as PM. He got a dose of reality when he last ran for the leadership of the NDP. And now of course, the ring thing has ensured that he'll be lucky to be a backbencher again much less an MP or higher.

 

[peapod]

Your moral outrage is a tad over done there steve. According to the laws of this land, not your laws, svend robinson has served his sentence. If svend robinson makes a comeback, it will be because of the voters of british columbia. I repeat to you, this province has a convicted drunk driver sitting in the premier's chair.

 

[SteveinBC]

Your moral outrage is a tad over done there steve. According to the laws of this land, not your laws, svend robinson has served his sentence. If svend robinson makes a comeback, it will be because of the voters of british columbia. I repeat to you, this province has a convicted drunk driver sitting in the premier's chair.

Hi Peapod,

I’m a newcomer here, so forgive me if I’m wrong, but I don’t see “outrage” in my comments – I thought they were relatively sober and conversational compared to a lot of what I’ve read in this thread. Your word “moral” is applicable, in that I find Svend’s constant disregard of the law, and manipulation of the media and public via his ‘Jimmy Swaggart’ style confession on TV, when it was clear the story was about to break, as highly immoral. My “outrage” would be about equal to your condescension.

Pointless remark to moderator removed.

I think we agree on the premier of BC who has reduced the question for future generations of BC Premiers to, “How serious must the felony be, before you must resign?” The same question will apply to MPs too, if Svend wins his seat. You’ll argue, ‘yes but he wasn’t convicted’. The fact is, he admitted to committing a serious felony. A good lawyer got him off. If he’d murdered someone, and gotten off by reason of insanity, he’d still be a murderer.

The basic question here seems to be, how immoral does the candidate have to be, before he doesn’t get elected (or reelected)?

 

[peapod]

The crimes you attest to svend are silly, except for the theft. If svend robinson is legally allowed to run for political office, so what? It his right, you don't have to vote for him. Not everyone view peoples lives in black and white, many of us can see gray. Svend robinson served his sentence, get over it. Your constant reference to his "crime" is a bit overdone, in my opinion only. We all know what he did. It doean't matter if you think he is not fit for run, you only get one vote. I don't think alot of people see it your way, but we will all know soon enough.

btw..I edited your remark to me, in your last post, it had nothing to do with the topic of this thread.

 

[SteveinBC]

"The crimes you attest to svend are silly, except for the theft."

You might ask the logging companies and loggers who lost hundreds of thousands of dollars for not being able to lawfully go to work if the charges that eventually sent Svend to jail were "silly". You might ask any police officer who's had to make a stand in front of a rioting crowd if they were "silly".

"If svend robinson is legally allowed to run for political office, so what?"

Please point out where I said Svend shouldn't be allowed to run for public office. Of course he's legally allowed to. The purpose of these boards is to express opinion -- maybe someone from his riding will read this and make a decision one way or the other, depending on how you, I, and others argue this.

"It his right, you don't have to vote for him."

Couldn't if I wanted to -- don't live there.

"Not everyone view peoples lives in black and white, many of us can see gray. Svend robinson served his sentence, get over it. Your constant reference to his "crime" is a bit overdone, in my opinion only. We all know what he did. It doean't matter if you think he is not fit for run, you only get one vote."

What I want to see are quality candidates. You are clearly partisian -- I'm apolitical. Over the years, I've voted for the best candidate, and for all three parties, depending on who's been running in my area. My ideal candidate is a respected member of the community -- profession unimportant. But a demonstrated achiever, manager, humanitarian, thinker, law abiding citizen. Someone who believes they should give back to the country that has been good to them. Someone who will give the country a term or two, and go back to the real world, without keeping their nose in the trough to get the fat pension at the end. Politicians are among the least respected citizens of Canada, rating lower than used car sales people. It is politicians like Svend and Gordon Campbell who have gotten them there.

"I don't think alot of people see it your way, but we will all know soon enough."

I think you are dead wrong there but as you say, we will soon find out.

"btw..I edited your remark to me, in your last post, it had nothing to do with the topic of this thread."
edited remark about moderator has nothing to do with topic.

 

[Calberty]

Making a comeback? I don't know if he can get away with such blatant theivery again but I doubt it. The eyes are on him and no one is going to leave his wallet or watch unattended with 'Sticky-fingered' Sven.

He'll have a hard time making a comeback as a ring thief but he might find other ways to put his sticky fingers to work.

 

[peapod]

Hi Calberty,
I edited the remarks regarding the moderator in your last post, it has nothing to do with the topic.

 

[Calberty]

Sure, I forgot the NDP

Once again your post has been edited, your remark is inciteful and has nothing to do with the topic of this thread. If your going to continue, please move forward with the the topic and contribute. Otherwise, I consider what your doing trolling.

remark posted in moderator fourm.

 

[peapod]

Your post was edited once again calberta, your remark had nothing to do with the topic of this thread, it was nothing more than trying to incite. Move on, and contribute to this thread. I have asked you several times now.

 

[Calberty]

Re: RE: Svend making a comeback?

The only things Svend was sick with was greed, a sense of entitlement, and a belief that he was untouchable. (delusions of grandeur?)

This guy is a dangerous moron.

Well said and agree.

 

[Reverend Blair]

RE: Svend making a comeba

You guys must have missed the point I made about Conservatives who have broken the law. Toews and Day broke the laws governing politicians. Robinson did not. You can continue bitching about Svend when you give equal time to bitching about Toews and Day.