Svend making a comeback?

[Grover Knight]

Let me guess Peapod, you NDP?
End of discussion.

There is no evidence on this being that he was judged the way he was, because he is homo-sexual, or that it had an effect. However, you can not deny that people walk on egg shells, "politically", when ever this kind of topic comes along. People have to be more straight forward, you cant squash what people are feeling, or opinions, by slapping bigot stickers on there forehead.

This has got to stop.

 

[peapod]

I am not slapping anything on your forehead, your doing fine all by yourself.
Walk on eggshells, give me a break, take a look around, who is bringing up the homosexual issue constantly :idea: Who insists on beating a dead horse. Who continues to re-hash and re-hash an issue canadians have already settled. Who brought up svend's sexuality? you did, what for? What does he sexual preferance have to do with anything. What he does in the priviacy of his own bedroom has no bearing on anything, unless he is breaking a law.

 

[Grover Knight]

exactly, breaking a law.

 

[Grover Knight]

I am not afraid to point out that there is a large moral base left in this country, and that it isnt going to be snuffed out by a leftist view point. No matter how many times you attack the right. I could care less if sombody is gay. I do care however, when they want me to choke down on there view point, I dont push mine on them.

 

[peapod]

There you go again, bring up svend robinson's sexuality, it has nothing to do with this thread. This thread has nothing to do with svend robinson's sexuality. Why are you dwelling on that? What does it have to do with the topic of this thread? I repeat to you and you refuse to answer, what does svend robinson's sexuality have to do with his comeback or his theft of a ring. Where is your proof that he got special treatment because he was gay? When are you going to show some evidence of any of this?

 

[missile]

I'm giving 10 to 1 odds that he wins the seat.

 

[Reverend Blair]

I am not afraid to point out that there is a large moral base left in this country, and that it isnt going to be snuffed out by a leftist view point.

If you are trying to assert that the political/religious right has some sort of lock on morality, you obviously know nothing about the left, religion, or morality.

After reading your posts, Grover, I can only wonder how serious your issues with your own sexuality are. Seek profesional help.

 

[Grover Knight]

I am straight as an arrow Reverend, what, you have some secret fluffing going on, you are ashamed of. As for my religious beliefs, it is obvious you are mired down with disdain for any form of spiritual guidance. Morality comes from a solid foundation, built upon strong beliefs, not humanists solely trying to chip out a new world enlightenment. Try to wrap your head around that. You leftists (especially the NDP) cant get away from normality fast enough.

 

[peapod]

Are you gonna preach, or are you going to provide even one scrap of evidence in regards to svend robinson, stop trying to side step. This thread is not about your morals, its about svend robinson, and since YOU brought up his sexuality, as if as anything to do with what we are talking about, you answer the question, what does svend robinsion sexuality have to do with any of this.

 

[Grover Knight]

You are reading the question side-ways Peabody. You have to read between the lines.

 

[Calberty]

Sven: an admitted thief who is also mentally unbalanced.

Hmmm...I sure hop e the NDP isn't out preaching ethics in this election.

 

[peapod]

Lets hope not, stick to what the majority of canadians are interested in health care. Don't worry about svend, british columbians are pretty opened mined, if a convicted drunk driver can be a premier of this province, there is plenty of room for a jewel thief :wink:

 

[Said1]

RE: Svend making a comeba

Good grief, Levesque ran someone over with his car while drunkenly driving himself and his girlfriend home. I can't remember off hand, but Klein's been in trouble before too. At least Sven has good taste.

 

[peapod]

You can find unethical and scandals in all political parties, but grover only cares about svend's sexual preference, which is none of his business. The people of british columbia will decide if svend robinson will make a comeback, and I doubt it will be based on who he is sleeping with.

 

[no1important]

RE: Svend making a comeba

I think Hedy fry was only re elected last time as the Conservatives and NDP never had a high profile credible candidate running against her. This time the NDP has a well respected experienced credible candidate running and it should be a close interesting race.

Svend was elected in 79 at age of 27, he was first MP to come "out of closest" so to speak and if that really mattered why was he re elected over and over again? Maybe because us out on the West Coast don't see sexuality as a barrier for doing a job? We out here for the most part unlike certain other areas in Canada are above stereotyping because of race, religion or sexuality.

Also his stunt in mid east never cost him his job either.

The bottom line is he stole the ring, fessed up, got his punishment from the courts, lost his job. He was going through a bad time and not thinking straight, he is being treated and now is running again. I say good for him. The people of Vancouver Centre will decide if he gets his job back.

Many people (myself included) have suffered with depression ( or going through a hard time emotionally/mentally)at one point or another in life, you do not think straight and do silly things, once you get counselling, therapy or even meds you can function like everyone else. Some people need therapy or meds longer than others but just because you have a mental illness, should not prevent you from running for office. Mental illness is not a social stigma like it was 25 + years ago, except to the narrowminded.

Svend does not even have a criminal record either. His punishment is what anyone else with out a record would of recieved. It was a non violent crime and rehabilitation is better for society than jail in cases like this.

I think Svend should win by 800-1000 votes.

They are burning crosses as we speak in Prince George~ Hedy Fry

 

[shamus11]

Under normal circumstances I would not vote for a homosexual NDP thief. But these are not normal circumstances.

Svend was an excellent MP. He helped Sue Rondegus when whe was facing death with ALS when no one would help her. Therefore he is not locked into party politics like other MPs

Svend is running agains Hedy Fry, the pompous lady who claimed she saw burning crosses. Parliament can only improve by her absence.

 

[Grover Knight]

Svend has to quit grabbing the camera and running with the controvercy. Getting himself between an Israelie Soldier and a Palestinian on the gaza strip??? Not your fight Svend!!, unfortunately you belong to Canada, not the middle east. Stealing a valuable piece of jewelry from a respectable establishment. He very well might destroy Hedy Fry, one gleaming hope in all this. I just think that Moral integrity should be focused on in the case of Svend. You cant do grand theft Larceny and expect the public to be understanding.

 

[no1important]

RE: Svend making a comeba

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Svend has to quit grabbing the camera and running with the controvercy

Really what is wrong this his so called publicity stunts? He brings attention to the issues. I believe, he really cares about things going on in not just Vancouver or BC or Canada but the world.

Some of his stunts may be "reckless" or "crazy" (like the gaza strip) but at least he gets people talking about them by bringing them to the forefront. You must admit he had a lot of guts to do that.

Same with "euthanasia", he got people talking about it. Same when he announced he was "gay" and he was the one who made sure "gay bashing" was added to hate crimes legislation.

He has done a lot of good and he kept getting re elected. Why is that? Because he gets things done and does what he says.

Under normal circumstances I would not vote for a homosexual NDP thief. But these are not normal circumstances.

Why do you bring up homosexual for? Couldn't you say thief instead?

From Svend Robinsons Homepage- Biography section

A teaser:

Robinson was an active MP, in his riding, across the country and internationally. A strong advocate of human rights, he served on many Parliamentary Committees including the historic Special Joint Committee on the Constitution in 1980-81, the 1985 Special Committee on Equality Rights, the Justice Committee, the Human Rights Committee, the Foreign Affairs Committee, and the Health Committee. Svend was a founding member of the Parliamentary Sub-Committee on International Human Rights and Democratic Development. He was the first openly gay MP, having come out publicly in the spring of 1988, and has received many honours nationally and internationally for his work for equality for lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgendered people.

Svend was a member of the Canadian Committee for the 50th Anniversary of the United Nations in 1995, and was a member of the Canadian delegation to many sessions of the UN General Assembly as well as the UN Commission on Human Rights in Geneva. He was named an honourary director of both the BC and Ottawa Civil Liberties Associations, and of Lawyers Against Apartheid. He was also one of the founding members of the Canadian branch of Parliamentarians for East Timor. Svend has also been very active in support of aboriginal peoples and environmental issues. He was adopted into the Haida Nation in 1985. He was a candidate for the national leadership of the New Democratic Party in 1995, finishing second to Alexa McDonough. In 2003, he was elected by his colleagues as Deputy House Leader.

In 2001 he was elected as Rapporteur of the OSCE Parliamentary Assembly Committee on Human Rights and Democracy, and in 2002, was elected Vice-Chair. In 2004 he was Acting Chair of that body, chairing the Annual session in Edinburgh, Scotland. Svend was also an active member of the Asia-Pacific Parliamentary Forum and the Inter-Parliamentary Union. Svend has participated in election monitoring teams in many places around the world, including South Africa, Romania, Taiwan and East Timor.

In 1990 he received l'Ordre de la Pléiade, Grade de Chevalier in recognition of his support for francophone rights. In addition, he received The Commemorative Medal for the 125th Anniversary of Confederation in 1992 and The Commemorative Medal for the Golden Jubilee of Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth II in 2002.

Among the many awards and honours received by Svend over his years in Parliament are the following:

Award for Human Rights, May 1993 Lambda Foundation

The Edith Adamson Award for Leadership in Issues of Conscience in 1995.

Elena Gil Iberoamerican Award on Ethics, June 1995 Felix Varela Centre

Tom Stoddard National Role Model Award, May 1997 presented by PrideFest America.

Hero Award, Sexual Orientation and Gender Identity in August 1999 by The Canadian Bar Association.

Presidents Award, 2003 Canadian Arab Federation

Kurdish Human Rights Prize, Adar 2614 [/end of teaser]

See he has a lot of accomplishments and recognition. He has done a lot more for this country and world than many government back bench mp's, whether they were tories or liberals.

He makes one bad error in judgement do to mental illness and you guys are ready to burn him at the stake.

Some example you are teaching your kids. You should teach forgiveness and second chances not crucification. Nobody is perfect and we all make mistakes.

 

[SteveinBC]

You have to admire Svend for two things. First was his tearless acting job when he made the announcement to the press about the ring. For that, he deserved an Acadamy Award. This announcement BTW, was a pre-emtive strike -- the whole sordid story was about to be reported by the press. And the second brilliant thing -- he somehow "trained" the media to say he'd "pocketed" the ring, instead of he "stole" the ring.

If any "regular joe" had committed Svend's crime, he'd of spent time cooling his heels in her Majesty's crowbar hotel.

 

[mrmom2]

Once a thief always a thief .I've learned this over and over in my life . People who steal are not to be trusted and should not be in goverment .We shall see how stupid people in BC really are 8O