Stupid 9/11 Conspiracy Theories

[I think not]

Read page 40 of the ASCE report.

The front landing gear (a relatively solid and heavy object) and the flight data recorder (which had been located near the rear of the aircraft) were also found nearly 300 ft into the structure. By contrast, the remains of a few individuals (the hijacking suspects), who most likely were near the front of the aircraft, were found relatively close to the aircraft’s point of impact with the building. These data suggest that the front of the aircraft disintegrated essentially upon impact but, in the process, opened up a hole allowing the trailing portions of the fuselage to pass into the building.

 

[Mogz]

I never said the plane picture I posted as in the same situation as the one you're describing aeon. I am however pointing out that just because a plane crashes and large chunks of it are incinerated, that doesn't mean pieces can't escape the fire.

 

[aeon]

Oh Look Bush must have placed that piece of the plane there himself, or was it Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld?

Ok, alright....I put it there.

I knew it you were part of the conspiracy. :roll:

 

[darkbeaver]

RE: Stupid 9/11 Conspirac

The film released today had a nice explosion and some nice smoke and fire but I didn't see an airplane. It looked like a cruise missile to me.

 

[aeon]

Read page 40 of the ASCE report.

The front landing gear (a relatively solid and heavy object) and the flight data recorder (which had been located near the rear of the aircraft) were also found nearly 300 ft into the structure. By contrast, the remains of a few individuals (the hijacking suspects), who most likely were near the front of the aircraft, were found relatively close to the aircraft’s point of impact with the building. These data suggest that the front of the aircraft disintegrated essentially upon impact but, in the process, opened up a hole allowing the trailing portions of the fuselage to pass into the building.

Congrats man! But it still doesnt explain on how the hole in the c-ring was made.So how PM concluded this?

 

[aeon]

Re: RE: Stupid 9/11 Conspirac

The film released today had a nice explosion and some nice smoke and fire but I didn't see an airplane. It looked like a cruise missile to me.

LOL, that doesnt surprise me at all. Do you have a link of this?

 

[Just the Facts]

how come a plane that supposed to have been vaporized at the impact, has a part that has no single scortch mark on it??

A. Because the plane hit many light standards on it's way in, leaving debris before it even hit the building.

B. Because pieces of the plane were propelled by the force of impact landing away from the fireball.

Sorry Aeon, you got nothin. You're suffering from what I call the Paul McCartney conspiracy syndrome. Nevermind the fact that he's walking on his own steam across Abbey Road...he's barefoot...he must be dead. Lots of dead people walk around the streets...especially in summer.

 

[Johnny Utah]

Wife of Solicitor General alerted him of hijacking from plane
CNN.com
September 12, 2001
Excerpt:
WASHINGTON -- Barbara Olson, a conservative commentator and attorney, alerted her husband, Solicitor General Ted Olson, that the plane she was on was being hijacked Tuesday morning, Ted Olson told CNN.

A short time later the plane crashed into the Pentagon. Barbara Olson is presumed to have died in the crash.

Her husband said she called him twice on a cell phone from American Airlines Flight 77, which was en route from Washington Dulles International Airport to Los Angeles.

Ted Olson told CNN that his wife said all passengers and flight personnel, including the pilots, were herded to the back of the plane by armed hijackers. The only weapons she mentioned were knives and cardboard cutters.

She felt nobody was in charge and asked her husband to tell the pilot what to do.

Ted Olson notified the Justice Department command center immediately.

http://archives.cnn.com/2001/US/09/11/pentagon.olson/

So where is Barbara Olson? If no plane hit then where is she? Facts are a plane hit the Pentagon, Barbara Olson's phonecall confirms it, period..

 

[aeon]

how come a plane that supposed to have been vaporized at the impact, has a part that has no single scortch mark on it??

A. Because the plane hit many light standards on it's way in, leaving debris before it even hit the building.

B. Because pieces of the plane were propelled by the force of impact landing away from the fireball.

Sorry Aeon, you got nothin. You're suffering from what I call the Paul McCartney conspiracy syndrome. Nevermind the fact that he's walking on his own steam across Abbey Road...he's barefoot...he must be dead. Lots of dead people walk around the streets...especially in summer.

A. Light standard would have damaged a 757 running at 400 mph?? this piece(picture) wasnt taken from the wings by the way.

B. even if this is true, we would have seen some black smoke on the debris.

 

[I think not]

Congrats man! But it still doesnt explain on how the hole in the c-ring was made.So how PM concluded this?

Page 28

The aircraft had entered the building at an angle, traveling in a northeasterly direction.With the possible exception of the immediate vicinity of the fuselage’s entry point at column line 14, essentially all interior impact damage was inflicted in the first story:The aircraft seems for the most part to have slipped between the firstfloor slab on grade and the second floor. The path of damage extended from the west exterior wall of the building in a northeasterly direction completely through Ring E, Ring D, Ring C, and their connecting lower floors.There was a hole in the east wall of Ring C, emerging into AE Drive, between column lines 5 and 7 in Wedge 2 (figure 5.16).The wall failure was approximately 310 ft from where the fuselage of the aircraft entered the west wall of the building.The path of the aircraft debris passed approximately 225 ft diagonally through Wedge 1 and approximately 85 ft diagonally through a portion of Ring C in Wedge 2.

 

[aeon]

Congrats man! But it still doesnt explain on how the hole in the c-ring was made.So how PM concluded this?

Page 28

The aircraft had entered the building at an angle, traveling in a northeasterly direction.With the possible exception of the immediate vicinity of the fuselage’s entry point at column line 14, essentially all interior impact damage was inflicted in the first story:The aircraft seems for the most part to have slipped between the firstfloor slab on grade and the second floor. The path of damage extended from the west exterior wall of the building in a northeasterly direction completely through Ring E, Ring D, Ring C, and their connecting lower floors.There was a hole in the east wall of Ring C, emerging into AE Drive, between column lines 5 and 7 in Wedge 2 (figure 5.16).The wall failure was approximately 310 ft from where the fuselage of the aircraft entered the west wall of the building.The path of the aircraft debris passed approximately 225 ft diagonally through Wedge 1 and approximately 85 ft diagonally through a portion of Ring C in Wedge 2.

You are the best ITN, thankx, and since i have honnor, i admit i was wrong on that one.

 

[I think not]

Your English is also alot better than my French, this is why I tolerate you. :lol:

 

[Just the Facts]

A. Light standard would have damaged a 757 running at 400 mph?? this piece(picture) wasnt taken from the wings by the way.

B. even if this is true, we would have seen some black smoke on the debris.

A. Well yeah.

B. Why? Seems to me like a clear maybe, maybe not. Or perhaps a it ain't necessarily so.

I just saw the video on the news, and you can clearly see debris being blown back away from the building, just like I envisioned. A piece of metal being blown free of the plane by the force of the explosion could easily have escaped being cinged.

 

[Cosmo]

RE: Stupid 9/11 Conspirac

Good Morning Mabudon ... Here's your thread back.

 

[mabudon]

RE: Stupid 9/11 Conspirac

Thanks, Carry On!!! (funny thing, when it was missing I thought "man, they really DO wanna bury this whole notion" and went to look in the bushes outside my house JUST IN CASE )

 

[Cosmo]

RE: Stupid 9/11 Conspirac

rofl ... oh no! Don't start with that!! I hate wearing my tinfoil hat so early in the morning!

Actually I haven't even read this thread because I am a conspiracy theorist. I decided I needed to up my meds before I read this. heehee

 

[aeon]

A. Light standard would have damaged a 757 running at 400 mph?? this piece(picture) wasnt taken from the wings by the way.

B. even if this is true, we would have seen some black smoke on the debris.

A. Well yeah.

B. Why? Seems to me like a clear maybe, maybe not. Or perhaps a it ain't necessarily so.

I just saw the video on the news, and you can clearly see debris being blown back away from the building, just like I envisioned. A piece of metal being blown free of the plane by the force of the explosion could easily have escaped being cinged.

I think you are right. it makes sense.