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2.01 Disparities in Hydrocyanic Compound Levels
Holocaust deniers often claim that since more hydrocyanic compounds were found in the delousing chambers than in the ruins of the so-called "extermination" chambers at Auschwitz, and the reverse would be true if people were actually gassed there, it is clear that no mass gassings occurred.

But - HCN is far more effective on warm-blooded animals (including humans) than on insects, so the period of exposure to HCN is far longer for delousing clothes than that required for homicidal gassings, and a much lower concentration is necessary to kill people as compared to lice.

A concentration of up to 16,000 ppm (parts per million) is sometimes used, with exposure times of up to 72 hours, to kill insects, but as little as 300 ppm will cause death in humans within fifteen minutes or so.

Breitman offers background information about the development of Zyklon B as a killing device, and provides clear evidence that the Nazis determined the effective Zyklon B concentration through a process of trial and error.

When the difference in the concentration of gas required to kill insects and humans was mentioned in Leuchter's cross-examination in the Zundel trial, Leuchter responded: "I've never killed beetles. I, you know, I don't know. I haven't made computations for killing beetles" - Hardly the response one would expect from an "expert" on the subject...

Because of the relatively small concentrations required to exterminate humans as opposed to lice, and because of the far shorter exposure time required, the HCN in the gas chambers used to kill humans hardly had time to form chemical compounds on the walls.

The gas chambers were not very large (those in Kremas II and III were about 210 square meters), and the Zyklon B was dropped through four openings in the roof, spreading the gas very quickly. These openings are still visible in the ruins of the gas chambers, and rare photographs of them, taken while the camp was in operation, exist, and copies are readily available (Brugioni et al) from the sources noted in Section 6.1, below. Since the concentration used was higher than the lethal one, death was swift. (See picture Krema4.gif Krema IV was above-ground, and the Zyklon B was introduced through clearly visible slits in the walls. See also picture Krema401.gif, which provides a close-up of the wall openings.)

Leuchter's data is further suspect because the delousing chambers where he obtained his samples were left intact by the SS, while the extermination chambers were destroyed. Clearly, their walls were exposed to the elements for forty-five years, which would certainly influence the validity of the samples taken. (The ruins of Krema II are covered with about three feet of water during certain periods of the year, and HCN compounds would eventually dissolve under such conditions. Nonetheless, so many gassings occurred there that some of the compound did remain).

Summarizing, the walls of the extermination gas chambers were in contact with HCN for a much shorter time then those of the delousing chambers, and for the last 45 years were exposed to surroundings which dissolve the compounds, while the delousing rooms were not. Therefore it is obvious that less traces of compounds would remain in them. This debunks the major "amazing discovery" in Leuchter's report, which, in retrospect, wasn't "amazing" at all.

This fact - that all, or most, of the compounds would vanish during 45 years of exposure - is quite clearly stated in the report written by the experts at the Cracow Institute of Forensic Research:
 

einmensch

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You must have diarrhea.
You tell me wolf-what is the difference?
Wolf a forensic study would be nice. Do you have one? No you don't? Just more bull with no evidence.
What group do you fall into Sammi?
 

lone wolf

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You must have diarrhea.
You tell me wolf-what is the difference?
Wolf a forensic study would be nice. Do you have one? No you don't? Just more bull with no evidence.
What group do you fall into Sammi?

You're the one telling us of tests that determined no there was no buried ash from crematoria. You tell us. Were these tests conducted by actual digging, nuclear densometer or what, Munchie? What have you turned earth and found?

Any forensic study I could produce wouldn't support your rabid denials or soothe your paranoid guilt anyhow so why bother? If it makes you comfortable, by all means believe your stuff.

The bull with no evidence is all yours, lover boy....
 
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einmensch

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You're the one telling us of tests that determined no there was no buried ash from crematoria. You tell us. Were these tests conducted by actual digging, nuclear densometer or what, Munchie? What have you turned earth and found?

Any forensic study I could produce wouldn't support your rabid denials or soothe your paranoid guilt anyhow so why bother? If it makes you comfortable, by all means believe your stuff.

The bull with no evidence is all yours, lover boy....

No sexual advances please. I'm not gay.
You have no forensic studies. Why is that?
Obviously you didn't read many of the posts .

Proof from a witness -now where are all those bodies in that ditch? What no ditch no bodies?
Do you know anything about gas excecution procedure in the USA?
 

einmensch

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You mean this soil test

The National Association of Forensic Criminologists, Archeologists, Skeptics and Historians ™ Another on for the Holocaust museum and curriculum


The National Association of Forensic Historians TM
Exposing Historical Fraud via The Scientific Method TM

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Ground Penetrating Radar Examination Exposes “Extermination Center” Fraud

NO TRACE OF MASS GRAVES FOUND AT TREBLINKA

A detailed forensic examination of the site of the wartime Treblinka camp, using sophisticated electronic ground radar, has found no evidence of mass graves there. For six days in October 1999, an Australian forensics team headed by Richard Krege, a qualified electronics engineer, carried out an examination of the soil at the site of the former Treblinka II camp in Poland where, holocaust historians claim, 870,000 jews were put to death in gas chambers and then buried in huge mass graves. Krege said: “From these scans we could clearly identify the largely undisturbed horizontal stratigraphic layering, better known as horizons, of the soil under the camp site. We know from scans of gravesites and other sites with known soil disturbances, such as quarries, when this natural layering is massively disrupted or missing altogether. Because normal geological processes are very slow acting, disruption of the soil structure would have been detectable even after 60 years. Historians say that the bodies were exhumed and cremated toward the end of the Treblinka camp’s use in 1943, but we found no indication that any mass graves ever existed.”
According to the Encyclopedia of the Holocaust (1997), a total of 870,000 people were allegedly killed with diesel exhaust and buried at Treblinka between July 1942 and April 1943. Then, between April and July 1943, the hundreds of thousands of corpses were allegedly dug up and burned on large grids made of railroad rails. Krege’s team used an $80,000.00 GROUND PENETRATION RADAR (GPR) device, which sends out vertical radar signals that are visible on a computer monitor. GPR detects any large-scale disturbances in the soil structure to a normal effective depth of four or five meters. (GPR is routinely used around the world by geologists, archeologists and police.) In its Treblinka investigation, the team carefully examined the entire Treblinka II site, especially the alleged “mass graves” portion, but found no evidence of individual graves, bone remains, human ashes or wood ashes. (SOURCE)
woov woov
 

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No sexual advances please. I'm not gay.
You have no forensic studies. Why is that?
Obviously you didn't read many of the posts .

Proof from a witness -now where are all those bodies in that ditch? What no ditch no bodies?
Do you know anything about gas excecution procedure in the USA?

You interpret sexual advance? Now tell me how you could read a sarcastic "lover boy" as that unless that's where your interest lays. Even if I did swing that way, your type doesn't interest me.

Face it. Munchie ... you're a raving loony. Your posts? Admittedly, they turned me off. They're too full of hate and denial to be read as someone who is interested in facts. You're not doing a very good job at selling your tale. Would you sell a car by berating a potential buyer who questioned the soiled carpet? You have a lot to learn, sweet prince....
 

einmensch

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Here is something that should be added to the Warsaw Ghetto section

Falsification of the Holocaust

Letter to the editor by Prof. Israel Shahak,
published on 19 May 1989 in Kol Ha'ir, Jerusalem.
Available online at:
http://www.kaiwan.com/codoh/newsdesk/890519.HTML

I disagree with the opinion of Haim Baram that the Israeli education system has managed to instil a "Holocaust awareness" in its pupils (Kol Ha'Ir 12.5.89). It's not an awareness of the Holocaust but rather the myth of the Holocaust or even a falsification of the Holocaust (in the sense that "a half-truth is worse than a lie") which has been instilled here.
As one who himself lived through the Holocaust, first in Warsaw then in Bergen-Belsen, I will give an immediate example of the total ignorance of daily life during the Holocaust. In the Warsaw ghetto, even during the period of the first massive extermination (June to October 1943), one saw almost no German soldiers. Nearly all the work of administration, and later the work of transporting hundreds of thousands of Jews to their deaths, was carried out by Jewish collaborators. Before the outbreak of the Warsaw Ghetto Uprising (the planning of which only started after the extermination of the majority of Jews in Warsaw), the Jewish underground killed, with perfect justification, every Jewish collaborator they could find. If they had not done so the Uprising could never have started. The majority of the population of the Ghetto hated the collaborators far more than the German Nazis. Every Jewish child was taught, and this saved the lives of some of them "if you enter a square from which there are three exits, one guarded by a German SS man, one by an Ukrainian and one by a Jewish policeman, then you should first try to pass the German, and then maybe the Ukrainian, but never the Jew".
One of my own strongest memories is that, when the Jewish underground killed a despicable collaborator close to my home at the end of February 1943, I danced and sang around the still bleeding corpse together with the other children. I still do not regret this, quite the contrary.

Is he a Holocaust denier, a Jew Hater, a Nazi?--igottousethosemagicwords

http://nafcash.com/
 

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No sexual advances please. I'm not gay.
You have no forensic studies. Why is that?
Obviously you didn't read many of the posts .

Proof from a witness -now where are all those bodies in that ditch? What no ditch no bodies?
Do you know anything about gas excecution procedure in the USA?

Who gives a rat's ass about execution procedures in the USA?......there is no comparison, and BTW, your hero Leucther doesn't know nearly as much as he pretends........

And Why have you not addressed Avro's excellent post above?

Why do you completely ignore the fact that the gas chambers you claim never existed, or are not "hermetically sealed" :lol::lol::lol: were blown up 65 years ago, and have been exposed to the weather ever since then?

Now, I'll tell you why, because I am completeluy fed up with your BS.

You are a Jew -hater.

Your biggest problem with the Holocaust is that they didn't do a good enough job, some Jews survived.

You think that if you can help bury that piece of historical fact, then what you see as the reason for Israel's existence will have gone, support for Israel will vanish, and the Arabs can carry out The Extermination of Jews: Part II.....while you dance a jig.

Why else would you post items from sites that are so despicable.....that call Bob Dylan a "Kike" and a Nigger-lover", that exist only to perpetrate the myth that Jews murder Gentile children to consume their blood??? You don't even have a sense of how outrageous that is.........

Given the choice, I'd ignore your stupidity, and not raise my BP over this stuff.....but your game is not to win the debate by the clarity, or the truth of your argument. Instead it is simply to exhaust your opponents, to bury them in a manure pile until they cease struggling, so you can spread your poison unopposed.

Good luck with that.
 

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You interpret sexual advance? Now tell me how you could read a sarcastic "lover boy" as that unless that's where your interest lays. Even if I did swing that way, your type doesn't interest me.

Face it. Munchie ... you're a raving loony. Your posts? Admittedly, they turned me off. They're too full of hate and denial to be read as someone who is interested in facts. You're not doing a very good job at selling your tale. Would you sell a car by berating a potential buyer who questioned the soiled carpet? You have a lot to learn, sweet prince....

On the contrary your reply evidences your lack of substance-
 

einmensch

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This is from a Colpy post>>>Why else would you post items from sites that are so despicable.....that call Bob Dylan a "Kike" and a Nigger-lover", that exist only to perpetrate the myth that Jews murder Gentile children to consume their blood??? You don't even have a sense of how outrageous that is.........
Show me that post Colpy or sruuuw off I have never used derogatory terms like kike--you and your buddies are in to that. I note that your whole gang is out-
Time and diligence is on the side of truth
Are you interested in truth-China,Colpy, Zz, Avro,Wolf ?
I happen to admire Dylan-- his early works

I don't see you boys replying to my posts--just silly name calling and comments
Colpy the reply preceeded Avro's post -- see Cole At Auschwitz it's a vid interview
 

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Are you interested in truth ... Wolf ?

Quite ... but there is no need for you to waste time typing your version. In my opinion, your credibility is questionable at best. How does one believe he who would attack all like a stormtrooper? There are two ways to appear victorious in debate: impress with intelligence or baffle with bullshyte. From what I have learned of you, your methods lean toward the latter ... a lot like Adolf.
 

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This is from a Colpy post>>>Why else would you post items from sites that are so despicable.....that call Bob Dylan a "Kike" and a Nigger-lover", that exist only to perpetrate the myth that Jews murder Gentile children to consume their blood??? You don't even have a sense of how outrageous that is.........
Show me that post Colpy or sruuuw off I have never used derogatory terms like kike--you and your buddies are in to that. I note that your whole gang is out-
Time and diligence is on the side of truth

Here you go.
http://forums.canadiancontent.net/hot-topics/81446-auschwitz-survivors-mark-camp-s-6.html

About half way down the page, where you quote "ANDREI YUSTSCHINSKY says"

Follow the links for young Andrei, and you find what he says here:

Vanguard News Network » Blog Archive » Reason and Reality with Mark Faust 9pm est “The Televitz”

Read it.

This is who you are quoting.

You are looking in the mirror. I hope it scares you into some sense.
 

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what worries me the most about the holocaust hype is why the need to silence/encarcerate people who have a differing opinion of what happened....to me that stinks of as coverup of sorts....like the old saying, "tis better to be thort a fool than to open ones mouth and remove all doubt" let them be seen as fools.....let them say what they like, it isnt hurting anyone.... but making holocaust denial a crime is rediculous and and raises a red flag with me.