Stronach demands apology

[wallyj]

This is much ado about nothing. She wasn't even in the room,it was an off-cuff response to a jibe. It happens all the time in politics and in real life.But of course the liberal media has to magnify it all out of proportion.One case comes to mind,this is in Hansard,Volpe responds to Jaffer about his pizza expenses with the quip. "This member has never met a 3 dollar bill he didn't like"referring to Rahim's sexuality maybe.Not a peep out of the press. Talk about a double standard.

 

[gearheaded1]

Rules of Commons

It's not Peter McKay's comment that bugs me (it was actually kind of funny), but it's that Commons discussion should never get to that point. It's up to the Speaker to enforce the order of the house and keep the "honorable" members in-line. On a daily basis the house sounds more like a school yard, than the highly paid representation of the electorate.

Some duties of the speaker for comment/interest:

The Speaker has full authority to enforce the rules of the House of Commons. He or she has discretion on whether to allow a motion to end discussion so that a matter can be put to the vote and has powers to put a stop to irrelevance and repetition in debate, and to save time in other ways. In cases of grave and continuous disorder, the Speaker can adjourn or suspend the sitting, but this is rarely necessary. If an alleged breach of parliamentary privilege is raised against a member, the Speaker decides whether or not the matter should be brought before the House.

The Speaker may order an MP who has broken the rules of the House to leave the Chamber or can initiate their suspension for a period of days. This process is normally known as 'naming' an MP. Once the MP has been named by the Speaker, if necessary the House then votes on whether the MP named should be suspended. Often it is agreed without a division. The first naming of a particular MP results in a brief suspension; subsequent offences within the same session result in longer periods.

 

[Colpy]

This is much ado about nothing. She wasn't even in the room,it was an off-cuff response to a jibe. It happens all the time in politics and in real life.But of course the liberal media has to magnify it all out of proportion.One case comes to mind,this is in Hansard,Volpe responds to Jaffer about his pizza expenses with the quip. "This member has never met a 3 dollar bill he didn't like"referring to Rahim's sexuality maybe.Not a peep out of the press. Talk about a double standard.

There is really no controversy.....he denies he said it, he can not be heard on the tapes, the Speaker has ruled there was no insult.............controversy over, officially at least.

 

[CDNBear]

There is really no controversy.....he denies he said it, he can not be heard on the tapes, the Speaker has ruled there was no insult.............controversy over, officially at least.

Ah. but the very inferrence of the comment has given way to the liberals to claim, the Conservatives have a distinctly anti women ideology. The comment just proves it, lol.

With all that is taking place in the Canada and abroad, you think this wouldn't rank a blip on the radar, but allas, it seems to be the new "Big issue". Isn't politics grand?

 

[elevennevele]

There is really no controversy.....he denies he said it, he can not be heard on the tapes, the Speaker has ruled there was no insult.............controversy over, officially at least.

Officially he didn’t say the word "dog" and so can deny having said the word. Rather, an MP asked about his dog over others speaking on the Conservative Environmental Policy and McKay motioned to Belinda’s empty seat and said, “You already have her”. Something which audio does capture and several witnesses did see the gesture made to Belinda's empty seat (I think, not sure, witnesses including the NDP). It's still a reference if that is the case. McKay appears to be playing technicalities with his defense knowing what he can deny. It’s a little tricky.

However stuff like this would look very bad in a corporation where a guy refers to another female professional in such a manner. That could have serious repercussions.

Other than that, I have greater concerns about the Harper Party. I’m sure Belinda is adult enough to get over the derogatory comments again by Harper politicians, unlike this jilted complex from the hopeless romantic manchild, Peter McKay.

MacKay referred to Stronach as dog, MPs say
Oct. 19, 2006. 09:57 PM
ALEXANDER PANETTA
CANADIAN PRESS

While the government was being peppered with questions about the new Clean Air Plan, Holland says a Liberal jokingly asked MacKay about the impact of pollution on humans and animals: “What about your dog?”


According to Holland, MacKay motioned toward Stronach’s vacant seat and replied: “You already have her.”

 

[#juan]

That's the funniest thing I've ever read. HE dumped his long term fiance to have a fling with a rich important Tory woman, who then realized that he was an idiot who had sold out the PC party after promising not to.

He doesn't exactly hold the moral high ground; he only got where he is today because of his daddy and his sugar daddy, Mr Mulroney.

Exactly. Mackay is a jerk. Sounds like he can dish it out but he can't take it. Now we are supposed to feel sorry for Mackay and cheer while this little boy insults a lady who decided she had had enough of him and Harper. Give us a break.

 

[CDNBear]

Officially he didn’t say the word "dog" and so can deny having said the word. Rather, an MP asked about his dog over others speaking on the Conservative Environmental Policy and McKay motioned to Belinda’s empty seat and said, “You already have her”. Something which audio does capture and several witnesses did see the gesture made to Belinda's empty seat (I think, not sure, witnesses including the NDP). It's still a reference if that is the case. McKay appears to be playing technicalities with his defense knowing what he can deny. It’s a little tricky.

However stuff like this would look very bad in a corporation where a guy refers to another female professional in such a manner. That could have serious repercussions.

Other than that, I have greater concerns about the Harper Party. I’m sure Belinda is adult enough to get over the derogatory comments again by Harper politicians, unlike this jilted complex from the hopeless romantic manchild, Peter McKay.

It has to be a big deal though?

It's funny, yes he was jilted, yes she is a self serving, coniving political female, so what? It's still funny.

If we really want to compare ethical conduct, she's got Petey beat by a land slide. She waffled faster then Ignatief on Israel. That makes her morethen suited for the liberal benches, I guess, that makes her more credible?

 

[MikeyDB]

Since in the last election, they elected her as a Liberal, I'm not sure who should apologize. Maybe David Emerson?

No silly
Blender Stomach should be appologizing to everyone for being elected by one side then abandoning that side to sit in a cabinet post....lengthen the list if you must!

 

[Colpy]

Exactly. Mackay is a jerk. Sounds like he can dish it out but he can't take it. Now we are supposed to feel sorry for Mackay and cheer while this little boy insults a lady who decided she had had enough of him and Harper. Give us a break.

Actually, I'm no fan of Peter McKay either......I think he is a rich, spoiled, whiney-boy who cracked at the slightest sign of pressure during the PC leadership race. I think he is unfit to EVER lead the Conservatives.

That said, I'm amazed you could actually refer to Stronach as a "lady:.

The woman is the worst kind of political opportunist, she understands nothing about policy or the all-important traditions of parliamentary democracy, she is, in short, an unethical, unprincipled, nasty little ignoramus. A perfect fit for the Liberal Party of Canada.

BTW, my opinion of her hasn't changed since she ran for the leadership of the Conservatives. Or, for that matter, since she helped make a mockery of the Ontario Legislature by helping the idiot provincial (conservative) gov't present its budget in a TV studio, for God's sake.

The woman is a waste of oxygen.

I'll say it again.......McKy should have to apologize to canines in general......

 

[MikeyDB]

Got my woof Colpy!

 

[Sassylassie]

I refused to let my dog read this thread, I for one don't want him being compared to that "She Witch". Why does a silly topic like this one have to become the Libs versus the Cons.

 

[#juan]

Actually, I'm no fan of Peter McKay either......I think he is a rich, spoiled, whiney-boy who cracked at the slightest sign of pressure during the PC leadership race. I think he is unfit to EVER lead the Conservatives.

That said, I'm amazed you could actually refer to Stronach as a "lady:.

The woman is the worst kind of political opportunist, she understands nothing about policy or the all-important traditions of parliamentary democracy, she is, in short, an unethical, unprincipled, nasty little ignoramus. A perfect fit for the Liberal Party of Canada.

BTW, my opinion of her hasn't changed since she ran for the leadership of the Conservatives. Or, for that matter, since she helped make a mockery of the Ontario Legislature by helping the idiot provincial (conservative) gov't present its budget in a TV studio, for God's sake.

The woman is a waste of oxygen.

I'll say it again.......McKy should have to apologize to canines in general......

I used the term, "lady" as merely gender identification. On the other hand, I have no reason to think she is not completely respectable. I can understand Conservatives being upset because she left , but it seems to me she left because of an altercation with Harper and that she was forced to leave.

I met Stronach once. I don't mean to say that I know her but she was polite and she seemed sincere. I wouldn't go around calling her a dog because she certainly isn't, at least I don't know that. Mackay on the other hand has lots to apologise for, but doesn't.

 

[CDNBear]

I refused to let my dog read this thread, I for one don't want him being compared to that "She Witch". Why does a silly topic like this one have to become the Libs versus the Cons.

Because Belinda made it so, she brought up the Conservatives anti female political crap. So we just brought it here.

 

[Colin]

Doesn't anyone find it the least bit interesting that this is what the 3rd or 4th time the Liberals have started a ruckus over demanding an apology?

 

[Johnny Utah]

Seeing Belinda here doctored into a photo of Johnny Utah makes me feel even more sorry for her.

How do you know that's me with Belinda? Because I said so you fool? lol


How do you know the photo is doctured?
Please Professor share you're Bias Liberal wisdom..

 

[MikeyDB]

Liberals of the Canadian version always try to displace guilt and the strategy they've always used to do that is muck-raking pouting and demanding an appology from someone who's doing exactly the same thing they did....

 

[MikeyDB]

Remember Dale Carnagie's famous advice to toastmasters and public speakers...

Look out at your audience and think of them all a sitting there in their birthday suits...

Lib or Con there's no difference but Oh how we love to run beneath a banner...

 

[elevennevele]

How do you know that's me with Belinda? Because I said so you fool? lol


How do you know the photo is doctured?
Please Professor share you're Bias Liberal wisdom..

Here's Belinda and I before I Hit It..

Sorry, I just went with what you said. Excuse me for not knowing (like I cared) what you really look like, or who the hell the other guy is. I also didn't assume you were a Bullsh'tter, only a bad comic. I guess I was wrong on that point too.

 

[elevennevele]

Please Professor share you're Bias Liberal wisdom..

If that is in reference to party affiliation, I’ve already stated on the record I have no lean to any party right now. Until I know who is leading the Liberals, I don’t support them. My posting record is proof.

I’ve said I wouldn’t vote for Ignatieff due to my principles over the Iraq war and that shows my consistency with being against Iraq apologist Harper. And so far I feel comfortable that I’ve read Ignatieff correctly. Now others are starting to wise up too.

I’ve criticized all the parties for different reasons. I’ve made it clear what my problem is with the Harper Government and I personally don’t regard them as the representatives for moderate conservatives. Moderate Conservatives were betrayed in my opinion. I think I’ve been overall consistent with my political views and that has had nothing to do with being on the bandwagon for anyone.

Sorry if it is too hard for someone like yourself to understand that political choices can change with the offering. I just don’t view political parties as sports teams that I need to feel a loyalty towards. I don’t believe in cheerleading, and right now Harper, in my opinion, deserves my criticisms.

Are you a cheerleader Johnny Utah?

 

[humanbeing]

Damn...

These people run the country? How can we let people run the show, especially these ones?

Sickening...

It pains me to know that we have leaders. Leaders who are bickering about dogs and apologies..