Stop the Self-Flagellation in Guise of "Solidarity"-An Open Letter to my College Dean

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Stop the Self-Flagellation in Guise of "Solidarity"-An Open Letter to my College Dean

The Dean of the University wrote, in substance “The persistent violence against people of color in this country needs to end, and as an institution with a founding principle dedicated to education for “any person,” we as a community have a responsibility to speak out and act to uphold those principles when we see injustice.” I responded as follows:
Dean __________,

I am jbgusa, Arts and Sciences 1979, and write in response to your email of June 3, 2020. By coincidence, that would have been the ninety-fifth birthday of my father, jbgusa Sr. Engineering 1947.

I cannot agree with the self-flagellation of your letter and similar correspondence from clergy and academic leaders.

This is eerily similar to the armed takeover of the Student Union Building in April 1969. As those familiar with University history know , the surrender to “demonstrator” demands caused many professors, particularly in Government, to resign. Any surrender or accommodation to violence has that result; constructive people of quality flee.No decent human being can stomach the brutal killing of George Floyd. However, there have been similarly brutal killings, of people of color far less flawed as citizens than Mr. Floyd. David Dorn, a black retired 77 year old police officer who was trying to protect a pawnshop from looters comes to mind. Where are the protests? After all he was also black. The minority communities wind up being far more severely injured than the "racists."

Remember, Mr. Floyd was killed by four Minneapolis police officers, not by ________ University.
 

Cliffy

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Sorry to see you are so short sighted to think that this is only about George Floyd. It is about 400 years of abuse, violence and murder of people of colour in Canada and the US, Australia and most indigenous people the world over.
 

Serryah

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Re: Stop the Self-Flagellation in Guise of "Solidarity"-An Open Letter to my College

The Dean of the University wrote, in substance “The persistent violence against people of color in this country needs to end, and as an institution with a founding principle dedicated to education for “any person,” we as a community have a responsibility to speak out and act to uphold those principles when we see injustice.” I responded as follows:
Dean __________,

I am jbgusa, Arts and Sciences 1979, and write in response to your email of June 3, 2020. By coincidence, that would have been the ninety-fifth birthday of my father, jbgusa Sr. Engineering 1947.

I cannot agree with the self-flagellation of your letter and similar correspondence from clergy and academic leaders.

This is eerily similar to the armed takeover of the Student Union Building in April 1969. As those familiar with University history know , the surrender to “demonstrator” demands caused many professors, particularly in Government, to resign. Any surrender or accommodation to violence has that result; constructive people of quality flee.No decent human being can stomach the brutal killing of George Floyd. However, there have been similarly brutal killings, of people of color far less flawed as citizens than Mr. Floyd. David Dorn, a black retired 77 year old police officer who was trying to protect a pawnshop from looters comes to mind. Where are the protests? After all he was also black. The minority communities wind up being far more severely injured than the "racists."

Remember, Mr. Floyd was killed by four Minneapolis police officers, not by ________ University.


I think you miss the point of BLM.


Yes, there is a huge focus on George Floyd, but that doesn't diminish the killing of David Dorn, or of Breonna Taylor either.

Rather they are included IN the movement as well.


But the thing with George Floyd's death is that it was recorded from start to finish, and the neglect, the torture and obstinate disgusting behavior of the police who were involved in his death was clear, totally and absolutely, for ANYONE to see in the video. You cannot dismiss it without being morally corrupt.


If you want to nitpick things, you can. Hell, the best example to bring up is the systematic abuse, neglect and everything else tied into anything Native. As a friend of mine from Alberta said, as an Indigenous, brown skinned woman, racism is alive and well in Canada too.


But to do that is to pick apart a movement that's meant to include all minorities, including Natives.

1969 was a totally different time than 2020 and if people resign from this unnamed University, then perhaps that's not necessarily a bad thing that you make it out to be.
 

pgs

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Sorry to see you are so short sighted to think that this is only about George Floyd. It is about 400 years of abuse, violence and murder of people of colour in Canada and the US, Australia and most indigenous people the world over.
But we forgot to get you some how . Why ?
 

pgs

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I think you miss the point of BLM.


Yes, there is a huge focus on George Floyd, but that doesn't diminish the killing of David Dorn, or of Breonna Taylor either.

Rather they are included IN the movement as well.


But the thing with George Floyd's death is that it was recorded from start to finish, and the neglect, the torture and obstinate disgusting behavior of the police who were involved in his death was clear, totally and absolutely, for ANYONE to see in the video. You cannot dismiss it without being morally corrupt.


If you want to nitpick things, you can. Hell, the best example to bring up is the systematic abuse, neglect and everything else tied into anything Native. As a friend of mine from Alberta said, as an Indigenous, brown skinned woman, racism is alive and well in Canada too.


But to do that is to pick apart a movement that's meant to include all minorities, including Natives.

1969 was a totally different time than 2020 and if people resign from this unnamed University, then perhaps that's not necessarily a bad thing that you make it out to be.
at least you weren’t the emotionally distraught Person that made the mistake for answering the door .
 

taxslave

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Sorry to see you are so short sighted to think that this is only about George Floyd. It is about 400 years of abuse, violence and murder of people of colour in Canada and the US, Australia and most indigenous people the world over.
Of course it is. That is why so many of the looters are white.
 

spilledthebeer

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Sorry to see you are so short sighted to think that this is only about George Floyd. It is about 400 years of abuse, violence and murder of people of colour in Canada and the US, Australia and most indigenous people the world over.






Dont forget to mention the drug and alcohol abuse. or the theft and vandalism and waves of suicide that make


so many native lives UNLIVABLE!


Dont forget to mention that TOTAL FAILURE of some ethnic groups to gain ANY USEFUL HIGH SCHOOL education


in a society where over 75 percent of all jobs now require post secondary education!


The "battle against white privilege" is DROWNING in its own ignorance and hypocrisy!


Just LOOK at the fight between Wet`suwet`en natives generally and their "hereditary chiefs"!


With the hereditary chiefs being in the MINORITY - and yet able to DEFY ELECTED LEADERS!


Simply because HYPOCRITE LIE-berals PREFER the hereditary chiefs - because LIE-berals THINK such support


WILL WIN THEM MORE VOTES!



Too bad LIE-berals DO NOT COUNT the number of other Cdns from the Silent Majority


growing EVER MORE DISGUSTED with the hypocrisy and selfish bigotry!
 

Blackleaf

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Re: Stop the Self-Flagellation in Guise of "Solidarity"-An Open Letter to my College

Sorry to see you are so short sighted to think that this is only about George Floyd. It is about 400 years of abuse, violence and murder of people of colour in Canada and the US, Australia and most indigenous people the world over.

Since when are blacks indigenous to the West?

Most blacks in America, Canada and Britain are killed by blacks.

White people have also been victims of abuse, violence and murder for centuries.

In America, more whites are killed by blacks than vice versa.
 

JBG

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Dont forget to mention that TOTAL FAILURE of some ethnic groups to gain ANY USEFUL HIGH SCHOOL education

in a society where over 75 percent of all jobs now require post secondary education!

The "battle against white privilege" is DROWNING in its own ignorance and hypocrisy!
Great points. Education is available to these people. They choose to destroy rather than build.
Since when are blacks indigenous to the West?

Most blacks in America, Canada and Britain are killed by blacks.

White people have also been victims of abuse, violence and murder for centuries.

In America, more whites are killed by blacks than vice versa.
Also true. There is also black on black killing.
 

Jinentonix

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Sorry to see you are so short sighted to think that this is only about George Floyd. It is about 400 years of abuse, violence and murder of people of colour in Canada and the US, Australia and most indigenous people the world over.
F*ck of Cliffy. Tony Timpa was murdered in the EXACT same manner by Dallas cops as George was in Minnesota, 10 months earlier. This kind of shit happens to people of all races and it's cops of all races doing it.


In fact, a recent study from Rutgers University shows that over the last 20 years, White police officers kill fewer Black people than other cops do, and when it comes to shootings, a study from the U of Pennsylvania and backed up by DoJ stats show that Black police officers are 3.3 times more likely to shoot at a suspect at an active scene.


Sorry to see you're so short-sighted to think that every instance of a cop killing a Black person is all about and only about racism.

So, as of March 2020 cops killed 228 Americans. 31 of them were Black. Were all 31 clear cut cases of racism? Or only the ones involving White cops? What about when Black cops kill a White person? Is that racist? I mean maybe the Black cop feels he's getting some back, if ya know what I mean.
 

Ron in Regina

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.....So, as of March 2020 cops killed 228 Americans. 31 of them were Black. Were all 31 clear cut cases of racism? Or only the ones involving White cops? What about when Black cops kill a White person? Is that racist? I mean maybe the Black cop feels he's getting some back, if ya know what I mean.
31/228=0.13596491...x100= 13.6% of Americans killed by Police being Black.

There were 37,144,530 non-Hispanic blacks, which comprised 12.1% of the population. This number increased to 42 million according to the 2010 United States Census, when including Multiracial African Americans, making up 14% of the total U.S. population.

Self-identified race: Percent of population
Native Americans and Alaska Natives: 0.9%
Black or African American: 12.6%
White: 72.4%

So 31 out of 228 people killed by Police in the US being African Americans is statistically normal (?) as a percentage of the population at of March 2020....an carrying this forth as a projection if the curve is consistent & flat 684 more Americans can expect to be killed by their own Police Forces (& of those another 93 should be African Americans to maintain the average) by Dec.31st,2020.....assuming no escalation or decrease for consistency???

Coincidentally, the number of African Americans (as of 2010 anyway) is surprisingly close to the total population of Canada. Between 2000 & 2017 in Canada 460 Canadians have been killed or died while being subdued by police. That's about 27 people annually in Canada. Canada has about 11.5% of the population compared to the American total. With a bit of mathematical gymnastics I figure that comparing apples to apples Canada has a rate of about 25% compared to our only neighbours of deaths of its citizenry by it's own Police Forces....Why?
 

spilledthebeer

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at least you weren’t the emotionally distraught Person that made the mistake for answering the door .






The woman was an UNTREATED LUNATIC!


She is MERELY another victim of LIE-beral CALLOUS INDIFFERENCE to crazy people!


Because treating people COSTS MORE GRAVY THAN LIE-berals CHOOSE TO SPEND!


So it is left to cops to respond when family gets worried and DEMANDS that cops go check on the NUTBAR!


In related news some idiot asked why govt did not send a social worker to check on the NUT - instead of a cop!


OH RIGHT! If a social worker HAD BEEN SENT - the worker would be DEAD - stabbed without any way to to defend themselves!


And the NUTBAR would be facing an ARMED CONFRONTATION WITH COPS!


The NUT might have been talked into surrendering peacefully - OR NOT - the NUT might have been SHOT instead!


And the social worker would STILL BE DEAD!


And the next time somebody called to demand a "wellness check" the NEXT SOCIAL WORKER to be ordered out


WOULD DEMAND A COP ESCORT! And the next NUTBAR would get shot anyway as the cop protected the social worker!


Any way you SLICE IT - somebody is GOING TO GET SHOT!


Unless LIE-berals SERIOUSLY ALTER their CHEAP ASS PHONY PRIORITIES!
 

taxslave

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The woman was an UNTREATED LUNATIC!
She is MERELY another victim of LIE-beral CALLOUS INDIFFERENCE to crazy people!
Because treating people COSTS MORE GRAVY THAN LIE-berals CHOOSE TO SPEND!
So it is left to cops to respond when family gets worried and DEMANDS that cops go check on the NUTBAR!
In related news some idiot asked why govt did not send a social worker to check on the NUT - instead of a cop!
OH RIGHT! If a social worker HAD BEEN SENT - the worker would be DEAD - stabbed without any way to to defend themselves!
And the NUTBAR would be facing an ARMED CONFRONTATION WITH COPS!
The NUT might have been talked into surrendering peacefully - OR NOT - the NUT might have been SHOT instead!
And the social worker would STILL BE DEAD!
And the next time somebody called to demand a "wellness check" the NEXT SOCIAL WORKER to be ordered out
WOULD DEMAND A COP ESCORT! And the next NUTBAR would get shot anyway as the cop protected the social worker!
Any way you SLICE IT - somebody is GOING TO GET SHOT!
Unless LIE-berals SERIOUSLY ALTER their CHEAP ASS PHONY PRIORITIES!
I'm guessing you are talking about Chantryl? Actually she is not a nutbar. I know some of her family and worked with her older sister and one of her uncles and none of them think she was nuts. Distraught maybe but not nuts. Nor is she the first one in her family to be killed by a cop.
 

spilledthebeer

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I'm guessing you are talking about Chantryl? Actually she is not a nutbar. I know some of her family and worked with her older sister and one of her uncles and none of them think she was nuts. Distraught maybe but not nuts. Nor is she the first one in her family to be killed by a cop.




I dont recall the names of every untreated and thus NEGLECTED BY LIE-berals - Nut got into trouble recently!


Sadly the judgement of the family is COMPLETELY SCREWED!


If the woman was in fact NORMAL and free of mental health issues - THEN WHY DID THE FAMILY ASK THE COPS


to DO A "WELLNESS CHECK" ON HER?


People who are sane and rational DO NOT get reported to cops by their worried famiies!


And of course AT THIS POINT - EVERYTHING THE FAMILY SAYS ON ANY SUBJECT - will go through the public relations



APPEARANCE METER! Anything that does not make the entire family out to be SAINTS - will be VETTED!


Because there is a disturbing number of people out there who DREAM of SCREWING THE GOVT in some RICH legal deal!


You CAN BET the family is being THOROUGH:Y COACHED on how best to present themselves in PUBLIC!


Here is a reminder of HOW CRAZED some people are getting on our mean streets!





Here is an article illustrating yet again how POOR a job the LIE-beral hug a thug legal system is doing to protect us!! With some comments of my own in brackets):

Meat theft: The strange new crime trend taking over Winnipeg grocery stores

By Shannon Vanraes, McLean`s Magazine

Published: Sept 24, 2019

Some stores are hiring security guards and training staff to watch for suspicious behaviour—a challenge, because, well, there’s no stereotypical meat thief.

Munther Zeid pages an employee at one of his Winnipeg grocery stores and instructs him to bring the object Zeid keeps hidden on top of an old ice cream freezer to his office. A minute later, the young man returns with a metal baseball bat.

“Our friendly weapon,” says Zeid. “I’m not going to allow my store, my staff, to be threatened and lose all that money. I’m not a multi-million-dollar company that can afford stuff like this.”

The problem? A seemingly growing number of brazen thefts targeting meat, as well as cheese, at his five Food Fare locations. At some of his stores, staff foil as many as eight or nine attempted meat thefts in a day.

And he’s not alone: grocery stores across Winnipeg are struggling to deal with shoplifters targeting meat coolers, as well as organized gangs complete with diversionary tactics and getaway drivers.

This spring, someone tunnelled through the wall of an east end butcher’s shop—not to empty a vault, but to clean out the sausage counter.

(Apparently Vanraes is not well informed and does not know of the equally brazen LCBO thetfs here in Ontari-owe last winter- in which brazen thieves would go into local liquor stores, take stock off shelves and walk out without paying - and would threaten violence if confronted by staff!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

(The LIE-beral tie in is that Our idiot Boy Justin has told us- in relartion to the Toronto gun violence - “that we cannot simply arrest our way out of this problem” - but Our idiot Boy offers no other solution!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

(And is it not ODD that once LCBO started putting paid duty cops into their stores - AND MADE SOME ARRESTS - the brazen thetfs of LCBO stock ENDED!! The LCBO experience makes mockery of Trudopes comments!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

RELATED: Quality wigs are in high demand—and prone to theft

(Yes- I know a teenage girl who was called as a witness in a Toronto case from 15 years back in which an organized gang used distraction to get around the high end clothing store staff where she worked - and the gang made off with a pile of stolen merchandise- fleeing in a conveniently locate d getaway car!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

(Such thefts have always occurred but it is only under LIE-berals that it has been re-classified from CRIME - down to minor nuisance - but this fits in with ALL LIE-beral policy on crime!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

(In order to save on legal costs - so LIE-berals will have more gravy for themselves- LIE-berals have been using Plea Bargaining to speed up the legal proceedings!! The problem is that LIE-berals have turned our legal system into an ineffectual JOKE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

(With plea bargaining, major crimes become minor crimes and minor crimes disappear entirely and then LIE-berals make mockery of sentencing with their early release crap!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

(LIE-berals have completely gutted the legal system!! Thye do not punish inm order to deter, cannot rehabilitate in order to turn criminals away from crime and LIE-berals REFUSE to jail career criminals so they cannot continue their lives of crime!! LIE-berals offer NO SOLUTIONS because REAL SOLUTIONS might cost them money or votes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

(Our property and safety are SECONDARY to LIE-beral wants and convenience!)
Winnipegger Ed White was at his local Safeway store when he saw his first meat heist eight months ago. A man ran out the front door pushing an overflowing cart, but abandoned the meat haul when frustrated customers gave chase. A few months later, White saw the same scene unfold, only this time a van was waiting and the thief escaped.

“Then, a few months later, at the exact same Safeway, I saw three big guys steal a bunch of Safeway roast chickens,” says White. “It was pretty crazy.”

(The Toronto Sun did an article about several down town stores that were going bankrupt and closing up shop due to the wild raqsh of brazen thefts!! Drug addicts just walking in and grabbing stuff off shelves and running out to sell their stolen stuff for the next drug hit- and these small family businesses could not afford paid duty cops!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

(Or we could talk about the Toronto Lucky Moose Supermarket where the owner got so sick of the same addict grabbing stuff and fleeing on his bicycle that the owner arranged an ambush and caught the addict!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

(The market owner had the addict tied up with duct tape in the back of a cargo van when cops showed up thanks to a tip from an ill informed neighbour who did not like the appearance of kidnapping!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

(The store owner claimed at trial that he only planned to drive the addict out of town and drop him off - making it harder for the guy to rob his store!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

(Sadly the addict story turned out to be a black eye for LIE-beral legal eagles- the addict had 86 previous convictions for brazen thefts - all to support his drug habit -and in order to ensure the addict would show up and testify at the “kidnapping trial” he was granted immunity from the theft charges caught on security video right before being caught and stuffed into the van!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

(This is LIE-beral justice at its finest- a brazen drug addicted moron gets coddled and an frustrated store owner who cannot afford repeated robberies is dragged into court to face kidnapping and assault charges for trying to deal with a thief that the LIE-beral legal system was IGNORING AND EXCUSING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

But the stolen meat isn’t being eaten—at least not by the those who steal it. Much of it ends up on the black market, either hawked to local businesses or sold online. Ryan Kochie, an administrator for the Buy/Sell Winnipeg Facebook group, knows the problem all too well.

“It was really bad in our group a year ago, but seems less frequent since we implemented some more monitoring and began asking for proof of purchase,” he says. However, those looking to fence stolen meat have hundreds of online options to choose from, including less scrupulous Facebook groups and sites like Kijiji.

(Restaurants dealing in meat from suspect sources is nothing new!! Over 20 years ago Toronto Red Star did an article exposing the illegal trade in improperly slaughtered meat for ethnic restaurants!! The Star described unlicensed butchers slaughtering animals in unhygienic conditions- and without having any govt inspection - with the meat being sold under the table to hide revenue and business activities from the tax man!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

(In another case, a truck driver delivering frozen chicken for various Walmart stores was waylaid at a Bowmanville truck stop And the robbery went badly and the driver was kidnapped at gun point- taken to a deserted field and shot in the head - and the thieves then made off with his load of $30,000 dollars worth of chicken - which they planned to sell at a local ethnic owned independent supermarket!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

(After a MASSIVE AND COSTLY year long cop investigation - one gang member was arrested in his Quebec home - a second was arrested in his native India and the third guy vanished!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

(IN related news- Toronto Star told us about 10 years ago that the AVERAGE defense lawyer in a murder trial gets paid half a million dollars - with a crown prosecutor getting at least that much again- so that trial alone with its tow defendants cost us at least $2 million dollars - then throw in a million or two more for the investigation on multiple continents and you have a TAX BIG BILL!!!!!!)

(Then of course we need to consider the $300 grand per year that it costs to jail such hard core killers and consider that it will cost MILLIONS just to impose the legal slap on the wrist that the killers are getting!! Many Cdns consider that the death penalty is not unreasonable for such cold hearted thugs!! But LIE-berals do not approve of DETERRENCE or of punishment!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

(But LIE-berals do not offer us any alternatives!! LIE-berals want us to be cowed and complaisant and enduring of outrageous garbage - for the sake of LIE-beral VOTE BUYING!! A more aggressive legal system would please many ordinary Cdns but would enrage many ethnic voters who belong to bigoted anti white groups like Black Lives Matter and Idle No More!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

Property crime in Winnipeg is on the rise—theft under $5,000 rose 28 per cent over the five-year average in 2018, and 22 per cent the year before that, according to city police data. Shoplifting, in particular, has spiked: Winnipeg saw a 77 per cent increase last year in the theft of store merchandise under $5,000.

No one tracks how much of that is meat theft, and Zeid notes the phenomenon is not unique to Winnipeg. Still, he says, “it just seems like it’s more out of control here.”

Frank Cormier heads the University of Manitoba’s department of sociology and criminology, and—while he hasn’t studied the problem—suspects the explanation for it could be simple. “There are times where certain kinds of behaviour just kind of catch on,” he says. “Whether they’re legitimate behaviours or recreational things or criminal behaviours, that is a possibility. Someone hears about it being done and they think, well, seems like an interesting way to make a few bucks, maybe I’ll do that.”

(The reality we see is that such behaviour “catches on” when it is NOT OPPOSED in any real legal fashion!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

Meat is also a soft, untraceable, high-value target. Small electronics are high value as well, but Cormier notes they aren’t sitting in freely accessible coolers. That, however, is beginning to change.

Some Winnipeg grocery stores are engaged in target-hardening, putting high-value products behind counters, hiring security guards and changing store configurations. Trevor Houston, grocery manager at Sobey’s Cash & Carry in the city’s North End, says his location no longer carries small, easily concealable packages of meat, and closes two hours earlier than it used to on Saturdays to avoid what was a high-theft period. Staff are also trained to watch for suspicious behaviour—a challenge, because there’s no stereotypical meat thief.

(In other words- the cost of deterring crime has been dumped on store owners and on the general public - letting LIE-berals off the hook for their negligence!!!!!!!!)