Soldier is hacked to death by Muslim men just yards from barracks in London
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My Muslim neighbours were all good people. Friendly, helpful, part of the community as much as I was. I even had some Muslim neighbours I could count on, and them me. I don't think I need to know much more than that about people.
But I doubt that would be enough for you if you believe that once they leave your sight they plot. lol.
Obviously it is the work of some crazy fŭck headed shīt for brains rather than an organized attack by al-qaeda as a couple of forum loonies suggested on another thread. The fůckers who did it deserve to be hung. Anything less is unthinkable.
Christian right wing hero Bush called his wars a "crusade" which is tantamount to using the word pogrom against Jews. Naturally that did not sit well with Muslims.
I can't see any other solution, Gopher. Who wants to feed those a$$holes for the duration? It would free up some grub for Sierra Leone.
The issue of islamic extremism in the UK is tad more significant than a couple of fringe elements.
They have a real problem. It's beyond fringe.
An absolute horrific act, thankfully not sanitized by hand wringing reporters. They need to crack down on these groups. Round up the nut jobs and throw them out or jail them.
When the leaders of an alleged Christian Gov sets up the slaughter of some of it's own staff in order to induce hatred,confusion and FEAR which is in reality terrorizing your own nation into being aggressors makes the leaders terroristic tyrants with no respect for human life.
If the slaughter of their own wasn't to induce fear and hatred to justify an attack
When the leaders of an alleged Christian Gov sets up the slaughter of some of it's own staff in order to induce hatred,confusion and FEAR which is in reality terrorizing your own nation into being aggressors makes the leaders terroristic tyrants with no respect for human life.
Christian Government? What Christian Government do you speak of?
Hmmm perhaps when you (ahem if you) answer the above question regarding that rather lengthy run on sentence, maybe the follow-up sentence it might enlighten me as to WTF you are talking about.:lol:
Which one recently let embassy staff be slaughtered to justify an attack on another nation? They may not officially be a Christian nation but they allege to be one and use that to terrorize the emotions of the Christians of their nation.
Without those deaths would there have been a justifiable boogieman to go after?
Without those deaths would there have been a justifiable boogieman to go after?
Thanks for clearing that up.
So, you really believe that the Obama Administration purposely let embassy staff be murdered to justify going into Libya.
You do realize that the entry into Libya happened long before the Embassy staff was killed.
Do you really believe this crap Petros? I didn't figure you for an Alex Jones follower.
Thank you RCS. Finally somebody with balls to ask just WTF i'm talking about.
What was public support for putting boots to the ground after just exiting Iraq? About as much support as a training bra?
In the week prior to Stevens being killed, what was happening on the ground? Was it a "good" al Qaeda Rebel win for sure or were things falling to pieces and the outcome looking unfavourable for the al Qaeda Rebels?
On Sept 11 an emotional anniversary, Amb. Stevens sent cables to D.C., including a Benghazi weekly report of security incidents reflecting Libyans' "growing frustration with police and security forces who were too weak to keep the country secure."
Hours before the assault, nearly 1200km away in Cairo, events were taking shape that would give Gaddafi massive support from Egyptians who were ready to grab their arms and cross the border thanks to a film named "Innocence of Muslims," which revved up the Muzzies and revved up the fear and hatred back in the USA that was needed to gain public support for boots on the ground in Libya
13 hours later Stevens toast after trying since MARCH to get boots on the ground the American public didn't want the US military to fill.
Over the next 7 days public opinion opened the floodgates, rebels got their support and Gaddafi was taken out and a potentially long dragged out stalemate with Egypt added in averted and an Africa to Italy NG pipeline secured for the partial use of a near by up and coming producer sitting on $1.2Trilion in product that prior to this whole fiasco had no other method to get product to the EU.
Not to start it, to step up involvement by putting boots on the ground rather arming al Qaeda and aerial attacks that weren't enough.
Yeah airstrikes and backing the al Qaeda Rebels which was a very limited "entry".
What was public support for putting boots to the ground after just exiting Iraq? About as much support as a training bra?
In the week prior to Stevens being killed, what was happening on the ground? Was it a "good" al Qaeda Rebel win for sure or were things falling to pieces and the outcome looking unfavourable for the al Qaeda Rebels?
On Sept 11 an emotional anniversary, Amb. Stevens sent cables to D.C., including a Benghazi weekly report of security incidents reflecting Libyans' "growing frustration with police and security forces who were too weak to keep the country secure."
Hours before the assault, nearly 1200km away in Cairo, events were taking shape that would give Gaddafi massive support from Egyptians who were ready to grab their arms and cross the border thanks to a film named "Innocence of Muslims," which revved up the Muzzies and revved up the fear and hatred back in the USA that was needed to gain public support for boots on the ground in Libya
13 hours later Stevens toast after trying since MARCH to get boots on the ground the American public didn't want the US military to fill.
Over the next 7 days public opinion opened the floodgates, rebels got their support and Gaddafi was taken out and a potentially long dragged out stalemate with Egypt added in averted and an Africa to Italy NG pipeline secured for the partial use of a near by up and coming producer sitting on $1.2Trilion in product that prior to this whole fiasco had no other method to get product to the EU.
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I wonder if anyone knows what the hell you're on about. Re-writing history maybe?
My recollection is Gone-daffy was long out of the picture when the Bengazzi terror attack occurred.
You appear cemented in that paranoid lunatic fringe.
Nope.
Not until the 18th a week later.
I hope your recollection gets well soon.
No history being re-written just a timeline of events in which Stevens makes his first request for boots on the ground in MARCH and right up to the day he died.
Was there public support for a ground war in Libya?
Is there any now for Syria?
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I do need to do a correction, it RSO Eric Nordstrom in who requested troops in March of 2012 not Stevens.
So your recollection IS pooched if it was that much later and not before Sept 11?
So your recollection IS pooched if it was that much later and not before Sept 11?
MI5 had been monitoring both Woolwich Muslim Beheaders for eight years
Betrayal of a hero father: How MI5 spent EIGHT YEARS watching violent ex-prisoner who preached outside Poundland just yards from murder scene only days before soldier was hacked to death
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Woolwich attack: How MI5 had ex-prisoner in sights as he preached at Poundland just yards from murder scene | Mail Online
Betrayal of a hero father: How MI5 spent EIGHT YEARS watching violent ex-prisoner who preached outside Poundland just yards from murder scene only days before soldier was hacked to death
- MI5 had been monitoring two fanatics responsible for SE London killing
- One fanatic was photographed behind hate preacher Anjem Choudary
- Michael Adebolajo, 28, was also a member of a banned terrorist group
- He was said to have preached jihad in Woolwich just earlier this week
- Close to where married father Lee Rigby was beheaded on Wednesday
- Second suspect named last night in reports as Michael Adebowale, 22
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Woolwich attack: How MI5 had ex-prisoner in sights as he preached at Poundland just yards from murder scene | Mail Online
if you could express an intelligible thought then perhaps one could answer you accordingly. try proofreading some.
your broken engrish is a tad incoherent.
Limit Muslim migration, Australia warned
LIFE can become untenable when the Muslim population of a non-Muslim country reaches about 10 per cent, as shown by France, a Jewish expert on Islam says.
The Australian Jewish News yesterday quoted Raphael Israeli as saying Australia should cap Muslim immigration or risk being swamped by Indonesians.
Professor Israeli told the Herald that was a misunderstanding. But he said: "When the Muslim population gets to a critical mass you have problems. That is a general rule, so if it applies everywhere it applies in Australia."
Professor Israeli, an expert on Islamic history from Hebrew University in Jerusalem, has been brought to Australia by the Shalom Institute of the University of NSW. The Australia-Israel Jewish Affairs Council is co-hosting many of his activities.
He said Muslim immigrants had a reputation for manipulating the values of Western countries, taking advantage of their hospitality and tolerance.
"Greeks or Italians or Jews don't use violence. There is no Italian or Jewish Hilaly [a reference to the controversial cleric Sheik Taj el-Din al Hilaly of Lakemba mosque]. Why?"
Professor Israeli said that when the Muslim population increased, so did the risk of violence.
"Where there are large Muslim populations who are prepared to use violence you are in trouble. If there is only 1 or 2 per cent they don't dare to do it - they don't have the backing of big communities. They know they are drowned in the environment of non-Muslims and are better behaved."
In Australia, Muslims account for about 1.5 per cent of the population.
Professor Israeli said that in France, which has the highest proportion of Muslims in Europe at about 10 per cent, it was already too late. There were regions even the police were scared to enter, and militant Muslims were changing the country's political, economic and cultural fabric, and demanding anti-Semitic and anti-Israel policies.
"French people say they are strangers in their own country. This is a point of no return.
"If you are on a collision course, what can you do? You can't put them all in prison, and anyway they are not all violent. You can't send them all back. You are really in trouble. It's irreversible."
Professor Israeli said that in Australia a few imams had preached violence. "You should not let fundamentalist imams come here. Screen them 1000 times before they are admitted, and after they are admitted screen what they say in the mosque."
He said some Muslims wanted to impose sharia (Islamic law) in their adopted countries, and when propaganda did not work they turned to intimidation.
Professor Israeli said his task was to describe, not prescribe. He also said his warning did not include immigrants, including Muslims, who simply wanted to improve their lot. As long as they respected the law and democracy, their numbers — Buddhist, Muslim or Jew — were immaterial. It became material when a group accepted violence.
"The trains in London and Madrid were not blown up by Christians or Buddhists but by Muslims, so it is them we have to beware," he said.
Keysar Trad, of the Islamic Friendship Association of Australia, said "Not only religious clerics need to be screened before entering Ausralia but also academics … this type of academic does nothing but create hatred, suspicion and division … We should review not only what the man has said but also those who have sponsored him, to see if they endorse those comments."
Source: Limit Muslim migration, Australia warned - National - smh.com.au
http://islamizationwatch.blogspot.com/2009/10/muslim-immigration-europe-looks-down.html
LIFE can become untenable when the Muslim population of a non-Muslim country reaches about 10 per cent, as shown by France, a Jewish expert on Islam says.
The Australian Jewish News yesterday quoted Raphael Israeli as saying Australia should cap Muslim immigration or risk being swamped by Indonesians.
Professor Israeli told the Herald that was a misunderstanding. But he said: "When the Muslim population gets to a critical mass you have problems. That is a general rule, so if it applies everywhere it applies in Australia."
Professor Israeli, an expert on Islamic history from Hebrew University in Jerusalem, has been brought to Australia by the Shalom Institute of the University of NSW. The Australia-Israel Jewish Affairs Council is co-hosting many of his activities.
He said Muslim immigrants had a reputation for manipulating the values of Western countries, taking advantage of their hospitality and tolerance.
"Greeks or Italians or Jews don't use violence. There is no Italian or Jewish Hilaly [a reference to the controversial cleric Sheik Taj el-Din al Hilaly of Lakemba mosque]. Why?"
Professor Israeli said that when the Muslim population increased, so did the risk of violence.
"Where there are large Muslim populations who are prepared to use violence you are in trouble. If there is only 1 or 2 per cent they don't dare to do it - they don't have the backing of big communities. They know they are drowned in the environment of non-Muslims and are better behaved."
In Australia, Muslims account for about 1.5 per cent of the population.
Professor Israeli said that in France, which has the highest proportion of Muslims in Europe at about 10 per cent, it was already too late. There were regions even the police were scared to enter, and militant Muslims were changing the country's political, economic and cultural fabric, and demanding anti-Semitic and anti-Israel policies.
"French people say they are strangers in their own country. This is a point of no return.
"If you are on a collision course, what can you do? You can't put them all in prison, and anyway they are not all violent. You can't send them all back. You are really in trouble. It's irreversible."
Professor Israeli said that in Australia a few imams had preached violence. "You should not let fundamentalist imams come here. Screen them 1000 times before they are admitted, and after they are admitted screen what they say in the mosque."
He said some Muslims wanted to impose sharia (Islamic law) in their adopted countries, and when propaganda did not work they turned to intimidation.
Professor Israeli said his task was to describe, not prescribe. He also said his warning did not include immigrants, including Muslims, who simply wanted to improve their lot. As long as they respected the law and democracy, their numbers — Buddhist, Muslim or Jew — were immaterial. It became material when a group accepted violence.
"The trains in London and Madrid were not blown up by Christians or Buddhists but by Muslims, so it is them we have to beware," he said.
Keysar Trad, of the Islamic Friendship Association of Australia, said "Not only religious clerics need to be screened before entering Ausralia but also academics … this type of academic does nothing but create hatred, suspicion and division … We should review not only what the man has said but also those who have sponsored him, to see if they endorse those comments."
Source: Limit Muslim migration, Australia warned - National - smh.com.au
http://islamizationwatch.blogspot.com/2009/10/muslim-immigration-europe-looks-down.html