Solar panels. Useless or the future?
- Thread starter JamesBondo
- Start date
There is a required market environment needed to achieve technological advancement. Its a dynamic environment. And the proper logistics need to be in place for it to work.
Unfortunately the electric car faces many dynamic challenges. Its why it has had poor results in advancing it technology.
Or its a conspiracy like the left always think
Hmmm, I gotta lean towards it being a conspiracy especially since the biggest producer of EVs (Tesla) has only been back for 14 bailouts to date.
I blame Exxon Mobil for all this
I blame Exxon Mobil for all this
Of course... I can't believe that it was staring us in the face all this time.
The Big Board Game lobby is squarely behind the suppression of this tech.
Betcha they were the ones that had Nikola Tesla silenced as well
The Big Board Game lobby is squarely behind the suppression of this tech.
Betcha they were the ones that had Nikola Tesla silenced as well
Well my doc told me repeatedly that the CPAP route is nearly always bullshit. BTW I also spent a night in a hospital sleep clinic. In my case and that of a friend, a memory foam stiff pillow has worked wonders.
Hydrogen is indeed a wonderful fuel and isee, by far, the most common element in the universe.
Unfortunately, their is no way of extracting it efficientry. Every method requires more energy per unit than the hydrogen contains.
Hydrogen is indeed a wonderful fuel and isee, by far, the most common element in the universe.
Unfortunately, their is no way of extracting it efficientry. Every method requires more energy per unit than the hydrogen contains.
Well, your doc is an idiot.
I had my doubts about a CPAP machine, tried all kinds of things. Now I have one. And the three doctors that I know personally are impressed with its effectiveness.
So maybe your doc should go on some CME courses.
I wonder if he goes ilk hunting?
My dentist referred me to my docs (plural) who referred me to an ENT specialist who had me wired up overnight in a sleep lab.
Everybody said I needed a CPAP machine but the sleep lab record was marginal. I elected not to use the CPAP machine.
That was about 5 years ago. Since then I have seen the CPAP machine lose & regain its trendy status.
Certainly trust your doctor but remember medicines has its trends and obsessions too.
My docs still say my breathing etc is marginal. Big deal.
I can walk 2 miles easily, I sleep reasonably well for an old fart & I'm in my eighties.
Reminds me of the statins I was taking for 25 years.
I showed the doc research paper that showed that are now suggesting statins do almost nothing. Went off statins and my HDL/LDL remain fine.
I will continue my own path, thank you.
Everybody said I needed a CPAP machine but the sleep lab record was marginal. I elected not to use the CPAP machine.
That was about 5 years ago. Since then I have seen the CPAP machine lose & regain its trendy status.
Certainly trust your doctor but remember medicines has its trends and obsessions too.
My docs still say my breathing etc is marginal. Big deal.
I can walk 2 miles easily, I sleep reasonably well for an old fart & I'm in my eighties.
Reminds me of the statins I was taking for 25 years.
I showed the doc research paper that showed that are now suggesting statins do almost nothing. Went off statins and my HDL/LDL remain fine.
I will continue my own path, thank you.
So everyone said you needed one except the people who did the test, which was marginal.
Record cheap electricity is transforming world energy markets as Canada struggles to keep up: Don Pittis - Business - CBC News
Article describing how alternative power sources have totally changed the electrical generation market.
Note the tense - have totally changed, not may change or could change
oil/gas/coal are already facing obsolescence in power generation.
Article describing how alternative power sources have totally changed the electrical generation market.
Note the tense - have totally changed, not may change or could change
oil/gas/coal are already facing obsolescence in power generation.
interesting article on how solar is going to replace nat gas by 2020 in the US.
far sooner than previously thought
site C dam should be up an running just in time for the death of natural gas as a power generating option.
https://electrek.co/2017/12/13/solar-batteries-to-take-10gw-natural-gas/
far sooner than previously thought
site C dam should be up an running just in time for the death of natural gas as a power generating option.
https://electrek.co/2017/12/13/solar-batteries-to-take-10gw-natural-gas/
Not a clue what you are reading. That is just barely the output of one small generating station. Say how well do your solar panels work at night?
I think you missed the part about solar panels and batteries working together.
but don't worry about it, it will be 5-6 years before they take over.
To answer the OPS question instead of debating the politics of green energy.
You said you tested your panel not facing the Sun and got 0.2 Amps.
Solar Panels will not even get close to the rated output if its not in direct Sun. Even a cloud passing by will crush the Amps. And you can not estimate the total power you are going to get by how many hours of daylight.
The suns power changes all day being strongest at noon and very week near sunrise and sunset.
IF you have to use that panel I would always keep it facing the Sun and at best maybe say 1/3 of the daylight hours X the Amps.
Since you need the power for something important. I would get a car battery or rv battery and charge it at home like someone said before. A car Battery can have 100 Amps hours, that is more then enough power to last you a week camping. You can even take you car battery out of your car and use that and have your car recharge it.
Or you can get a bigger Panel.
And definitely not useless and its the future.
How is free power from the Sun useless.
If you solar power your house and your house gets good sun, you can have the system paid off in about 9 years. The panels would last over 25 years, but you will still have battery maintenance. Still you save in long run and its only going to get cheaper in the future.
I always like the security you get by not being dependent on the grid.
You said you tested your panel not facing the Sun and got 0.2 Amps.
Solar Panels will not even get close to the rated output if its not in direct Sun. Even a cloud passing by will crush the Amps. And you can not estimate the total power you are going to get by how many hours of daylight.
The suns power changes all day being strongest at noon and very week near sunrise and sunset.
IF you have to use that panel I would always keep it facing the Sun and at best maybe say 1/3 of the daylight hours X the Amps.
Since you need the power for something important. I would get a car battery or rv battery and charge it at home like someone said before. A car Battery can have 100 Amps hours, that is more then enough power to last you a week camping. You can even take you car battery out of your car and use that and have your car recharge it.
Or you can get a bigger Panel.
And definitely not useless and its the future.
How is free power from the Sun useless.
If you solar power your house and your house gets good sun, you can have the system paid off in about 9 years. The panels would last over 25 years, but you will still have battery maintenance. Still you save in long run and its only going to get cheaper in the future.
I always like the security you get by not being dependent on the grid.
Last edited:
i chose the not ideal conditions to test my system because that is how it is used when im camping. ie the max number of sunlight hours that i have are from sunrise to sunset. thank you for point out that not all the hours are equal.
also, i chose indirect sunlight because when im camping i dont have time to be calculating and adjusting the angle of the panel to the sun. why? well i guess im too busy camping.
anyway, ive come up with my best solution without buying more equipment.
here's my solution:
1 - i used the car alternator to bulk charge the battery for about an hour. because i dont want the alternator to charge the battery at too fast of a rate, i use the 7amp charge controller( the one that comes with my solar panel) to limit the current.
2 - then i connect the battery to my solar panel and let the solar panel do the only thing that it is good at, ie trickle charge the battery for the rest of the day.
on a good day, the battery experiences a full absorption charge from the solar panel.
i also have a 2amp charger that plugs into a 500 watt inverter that i own. it too bulk charges the battery in about 3 hours. it is gentler on the battery. but it involves running the car longer than i like. h9wever, i do carry it and use it if im traveling from one location to another.
Speaking of “The Sweet”
What about Deb, at Gimlets, doin’ the Ballroom Blitz, in the warly 80s?
What about Deb, at Gimlets, doin’ the Ballroom Blitz, in the warly 80s?