Smile! You’ve Got Socialized Healthcare!
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I can and will.
HIT THE BIKE DAMMIT!
I'd like to see Govt reward people for losing weight and keeping it off.
HIT THE BIKE DAMMIT!
I'd like to see Govt reward people for losing weight and keeping it off.
That is a good reason for getting personal private health insurance based on risk.
Exactly and hopefully there is a foolproof way of making the determination.
Why Obamacare won’t spiral into fiery, actuarial doom
Why Obamacare won’t spiral into fiery, actuarial doom
The rumors of an Obamacare death spiral have been greatly exaggerated.
So say Larry Levitt, Gary Claxton and Anthony Damico, experts at the Kaiser Family Foundation who have put together a new brief analyzing what would happen if young adults snubbed the Affordable Care Act. Even if young people sign up at half the rate the administration hopes for, it would nudge premiums up only by a few percentage points, their report says.
"When you do the math, it matters, but not nearly as much as the conventional wisdom suggests," Levitt says
The worry tends to go something like this: If young adults don't sign up for insurance coverage through the exchange, then the market loses a wide swath of very healthy enrollees -- and wouldn't have enough people to help pay the claims of the sicker, older subscribers. Without enough young people to subsidize the costs of older enrollees, insurers would instead raise premiums to cover the higher costs. And that would make coverage less desirable to young shoppers in 2015.
Or, if you prefer a bit more hand-wringing: If enough young people don't sign up for Obamacare, premiums spike, the market goes into a "death spiral" and the health law is doomed.
Levitt has already warned that fears of this alleged death spiral are likely overblown. Now, he, Claxton and Damico put a few numbers to the argument. First, they start with an analysis of who is actually in the market of people eligible to buy coverage on the exchange. These include those currently in the individual market and the uninsured who earn too much to qualify for the Medicaid program.
Yup. Looks like "socialized medicine" is going to be around for a while .....
Why Obamacare won’t spiral into fiery, actuarial doom
The rumors of an Obamacare death spiral have been greatly exaggerated.
So say Larry Levitt, Gary Claxton and Anthony Damico, experts at the Kaiser Family Foundation who have put together a new brief analyzing what would happen if young adults snubbed the Affordable Care Act. Even if young people sign up at half the rate the administration hopes for, it would nudge premiums up only by a few percentage points, their report says.
"When you do the math, it matters, but not nearly as much as the conventional wisdom suggests," Levitt says
The worry tends to go something like this: If young adults don't sign up for insurance coverage through the exchange, then the market loses a wide swath of very healthy enrollees -- and wouldn't have enough people to help pay the claims of the sicker, older subscribers. Without enough young people to subsidize the costs of older enrollees, insurers would instead raise premiums to cover the higher costs. And that would make coverage less desirable to young shoppers in 2015.
Or, if you prefer a bit more hand-wringing: If enough young people don't sign up for Obamacare, premiums spike, the market goes into a "death spiral" and the health law is doomed.
Levitt has already warned that fears of this alleged death spiral are likely overblown. Now, he, Claxton and Damico put a few numbers to the argument. First, they start with an analysis of who is actually in the market of people eligible to buy coverage on the exchange. These include those currently in the individual market and the uninsured who earn too much to qualify for the Medicaid program.
Yup. Looks like "socialized medicine" is going to be around for a while .....
Republicans benefiting from "socialized medicine":
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If November had an Obamacare surge, consider this the December deluge. California averaged 15,000 daily enrollments early last week, about double the sign-ups the state had in early December. New York is now seeing about 4,500 residents choosing plans each day and, in Connecticut, the number is hovering around 1,400.
California is averaging 15,000 Obamacare enrollments each day
California is averaging 15,000 Obamacare enrollments each day
Many, many more folks signing up for socialized health care every day!
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If November had an Obamacare surge, consider this the December deluge. California averaged 15,000 daily enrollments early last week, about double the sign-ups the state had in early December. New York is now seeing about 4,500 residents choosing plans each day and, in Connecticut, the number is hovering around 1,400.
California is averaging 15,000 Obamacare enrollments each day
California is averaging 15,000 Obamacare enrollments each day
Many, many more folks signing up for socialized health care every day!
Gopher,
How many of California's newly insured are signing up for Medicaid for the poor (called Medi-Cal in California)instead of Obamacare?
How many of California's newly insured are signing up for Medicaid for the poor (called Medi-Cal in California)instead of Obamacare?
In 100 days they might be finished signing up the city of L.A. How long will it take to cover the rest of the state ?Republicans benefiting from "socialized medicine":
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If November had an Obamacare surge, consider this the December deluge. California averaged 15,000 daily enrollments early last week, about double the sign-ups the state had in early December. New York is now seeing about 4,500 residents choosing plans each day and, in Connecticut, the number is hovering around 1,400.
California is averaging 15,000 Obamacare enrollments each day
California is averaging 15,000 Obamacare enrollments each day
Many, many more folks signing up for socialized health care every day!
When are they going to crown him?
Congress passes a law... the President changes it to suit his agenda.
Obama Lifts Health Mandate for Those With Canceled Plans - Bloomberg
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/high-security-risks-found-after-healthcaregov-launch/
Congress passes a law... the President changes it to suit his agenda.
Obama Lifts Health Mandate for Those With Canceled Plans - Bloomberg
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/high-security-risks-found-after-healthcaregov-launch/
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Obama just delayed the Individual Mandate for people who lost their insurance coverage. In doing so he continues to undermine the financial viability of Obamacare. Obama is trying to win the daily news cycle instead of conducting long range planning.
He's just kicking it down the road. And of course he is once again single handedly changing laws passed by Congress. But the Tards love that. They love that the Emperor is side stepping Congress to promote their agenda.
I disagree on one thing with you BT... this is his/their long range planning. The Hook isn't in deep enough.
This could only be long range planning if Obama is a gambler hoping that by destroying the insurance companies he will pave the way for a Single Payer system. He's running the risk of ruining the Leftist Agenda by destroying the individual lives of millions of Americans. If that is his goal there is a flawed premise underlying his scheme. He would be assuming that the Left will ever be trusted again to restructure health care. The real downside is that by running such a risk he is pushing millions toward Revolution and possibly killing the country as we have known it.
Things rarely turn out the way we hope. Every time one factor is altered the course of events takes a new trajectory. The ultimate dynamic of history is randomness. There is no true steady state equilibrium or homeostasis. But hey, that's just my opinion nothing more.