Smile! You’ve Got Socialized Healthcare!

BaalsTears

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''socialized" medicine growing in popularity in Kentucky:

Obamacare Enrollment In Kentucky Up 40% Since November


much like California & everywhere else?



Hopefully, we will soon adopt Canada's socialist medicine system and all will be well. :)

You are willing to impose your ideas on an unwilling populace because you think you know better than they do about what they need. And you are prepared to use coercion in the process. That's just wrong in so many ways.
 

pgs

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''socialized" medicine growing in popularity in Kentucky:

Obamacare Enrollment In Kentucky Up 40% Since November


much like California & everywhere else?



Hopefully, we will soon adopt Canada's socialist medicine system and all will be well. :)
Beware what you wish for . Canada's socialist medical system is great for the unionized health worker and wonderfully for the reams of administrators . Wait over a year for an MRI and one has a somewhat different view of our socialized system .Get shuffled around to various specialists for a year for a stomach problem only to find out you have unoperable cancer that was found 6 months to late .
All the while our political betters get to fly down to good ole U.S.A.for their healthcare .At least we don't really have death panels though.
Everyone gets the same shiyyt service. We do a good job at emergency trauma though .
 

gopher

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Brainwrap: Week 12 Obamacare enrollments - including Medicaid Expansion - now exceeeds 5.2 million

Pulling together numbers on Obamacare enrollments is a complicated business because of different sources and different methodologies and different definitions of 'enrollment'. Actual enrollment into an insurance plan doesn't happen until the first premium is paid and given that benefits wouldn't start until January 1st 2014 there is little incentive to pay before December 15th. The enrollment numbers of people who have completed all of the steps, including paying the first premium, won't be available until January and have to come from the insurance companies themselves.

The most consistent, careful and trustworthy compilation of people that have gone through the process and qualified for enrollment appears to be done by a blogger by the name of Brainwrap.

He/she has been posting a weekly update and has links to each states numbers.

It is possible that there is some duplication of numbers but it is certain that many of the numbers haven't been updated during the time when people going through the improved website has undergone significant increase in volume.

His latest numbers:

Private Enrollments 1,389,000

Medicaid Expansion/SCHIP 3,888,000

Total 5,277,000

His spreadsheet with links to his source material here:

Affordable Care Act (aka Obamacare) Health Insurance Signup Chart




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SOCIALIZED MEDICINE GROWING BY LEAPS AND BOUNDS EVERY DAY!!!!!!
 

Tecumsehsbones

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Federal contractors on edge as Indian tribes wait for claims

By Kimberly Kindy, Published: December 22


OWYHEE, Nev. — When the federal government reneged on its agreement to fully compensate the Shoshone-Paiute tribes for running a hospital on the Duck Valley reservation, the Washington contracting world barely noticed.

But after similar contracts were broken with hundreds of other Native American tribes and the debts they were owed snowballed to an estimated $2 billion, federal contractors joined their court battle, alarmed that the practice might eventually ensnare them as well.

Now, more than a year after the U.S. Supreme Court ruled for a second time in favor of the tribes and ordered the government to pay up, the two federal agencies that are on the hook — the Indian Health Service and the Bureau of Indian Affairs — have settled fewer than 1 percent of the claims, agency records show. The Obama administration, meantime, is asking Congress to approve a proposal that would permanently limit how much Native Americans could be paid in the future for certain costs associated with government contracts.

All this has federal contractors on edge again.

“This should put some fear into the small, medium and large contractors,” said Sen. Mark Begich (D-Alaska), who represents 229 tribes that have unpaid claims of more than $35 million. “This was a Supreme Court case, not based on Indian law, but contract law, and the federal government decided it could make partial payments.”

At issue are contract support costs that are spelled out in the agreements, under which the government pays tribes to run education, public safety and health programs on reservations. The support costs — which include items like travel expenses, legal and accounting fees, insurance costs and worker’s compensation fees — typically account for 20 percent of the value of the contract, according to Lloyd Miller, a lawyer who represented the tribes at the Supreme Court.

For decades, when the Indian Health Service and Bureau of Indian Affairs have run short of money, they have notified tribes that such support costs would be paid only in part, if at all. Agency officials have told both Congress and the Supreme Court that the government does not have enough funds in its budget to pay the agreed amount of the contracts.

“There is not enough money to go around to do all of the things the United States should do in Indian Country,” said Kevin Washburn, assistant secretary for Indian affairs with the Interior Department, during a congressional hearing last month about the unpaid claims.
The tribes, not surprisingly, call that excuse unacceptable.

“Can you imagine telling your landlord, ‘Sorry, I’m only going to pay you 80 percent of the rent this month?’ ” said Noni Manning, a Shoshone-Paiute tribal member and former tribal finance manager. “In the rest of the world, a contract is a contract.”

Federal contractors care deeply about whether the government will continue to pay contract support costs because most non-tribal service contracts with federal agencies provide for such expenses, according to several contracting experts. These costs typically account for about 30 percent of the value of a contract, the experts said.

The U.S. Chamber of Commerce has warned that the government could be setting a dangerous precedent for the federal contracting industry.

“The government’s position would have the effect of making contracts illusory by giving it a broad right to refuse payment at the stated price for services rendered,” the Chamber argued in a friend-of-the-court brief to the Supreme Court early last year.


More at link: Federal contractors on edge as Indian tribes wait for claims - The Washington Post

The good news is Indians aren't eligible for Obamacare, so at least we don't have to deal with that train wreck.
 

gopher

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Millions signed up for "socialized" ACA/Obamacare!


 

pgs

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Millions signed up for "socialized" ACA/Obamacare!


300 million plus Americans and millions (5 or 6 ) signed up is a victory ?
Lots of non compliance fines ( tax ) coming in . Great job gopher > lol welcome to Canadu you wanted it .
 

tay

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I am awaiting for a friend of mine to send me a copy of her Hospital Bill. She got into a bad car accident last year (not her fault) and is now part cyborg and is finally out.


In the meantime here's a 24 hour stay for Appendicitis. 'Luckily' the kids father had insurance and they only have to pay part of the $55,000.00, that being $11,000.00




Every Canadian on this site can relate to the following...............










 

gopher

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pgs; said:
300 million plus Americans and millions (5 or 6 ) signed up is a victory ?
Lots of non compliance fines ( tax ) coming in . Great job gopher > lol welcome to Canadu you wanted it .



Prior to ACA there were 45 million or so uninsured - there's far less now.

Google ''face of Obamacare'' to know they view it as a victory.
 

Cliffy

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The sky is falling! The sky is falling!

Geezuz, you right wingers are a bunch of whiny putzes. Obama will be gone soon. Then what will you whine about?