Smile! You’ve Got Socialized Healthcare!

EagleSmack

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E-Smack- that is exactly what bankrupts the system. Its not what ER's are designed for. Doctor's offices are designed for first level, non crucial care.

Even had my 'roids trimmed in a doctors' clinic. Much less expensive,& left me less of an arsehole than before...

Everyone agreed that Health Care needed reform.

Believe me when you go into an ER and have no insurance yet have a job... you're paying. And they can send you to a Docs Office for follow up... you're paying that too.

Point is I received emergency care and medical care without insurance... but boy was I billed for it.

Why didn't the GOP think of this idea first? I guess the Dems are smarter than the GOP for coming up with this original idea.

Yes... delaying Obamacare for a year...why didn't the GOP ever try to sit down with the Dems over this?

House GOP votes to delay Obamacare for one year
 

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Obamacare applications near 700,000, official says



Obamacare applications near 700,000, official says | Reuters




About 700,000 applications have been submitted for U.S. healthcare coverage being offered through new exchanges created by President Barack Obama's healthcare law, a U.S. official said on Thursday.
The U.S. Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services released the number during an update for journalists about the healthcare marketplace, which has had a rocky rollout since enrollment in the new plans began on Oct 1.
The U.S. government is operating the healthcare.gov website, which has been plagued by technical problems since the outset and is the portal for 36 states; the remaining states are operating their own online marketplaces. The nearly 700,000 applications are the total from both the state- and federally-run exchanges, Julie Bataille, a CMS spokeswoman, said on the media call.
Applications for at least 390,000 people have been completed through the state-run exchanges, according to a Reuters tally of state reports.








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For something that is so supposedly undesirable (that is, according to the delusional right wingers) it sure is getting much attention from those who need it.
 

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Obamacare’s Magical Thinkers

If you’re looking for an epitaph for the republic (and these days who isn’t?) try this — from August 2010 and TechCrunch’s delirious preview of Healthcare.gov:


“We were working in a very very nimble hyper-consumer-focused way,” explained Todd Park, the chief technology officer of the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services, “all fused in this kind of maelstrom of pizza, Mountain Dew, and all-nighters . . . and, you know, idealism. That kind of led to the magic that was produced.”




fabulous, shiny and cool...


Obamacare’s Magical Thinkers | National Review Online
 

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Hitler finds out about Obamacare exchange problems.

The Jawa Report: Healthcare.gov Downfall



,,,and this just in:

Obamcare Company CGI Executive Is Michelle Obama’s Princeton Classmate; Both Belonged To “Organization Of Black Unity”

Coincidence, I’m sure. Perhaps someone would like to ask a question in testimony on this?



Via Daily Caller:
First Lady Michelle Obama’s Princeton classmate is a top executive at the company that earned the contract to build the failed Obamacare website.


Toni Townes-Whitley, Princeton class of ’85, is senior vice president at CGI Federal, which earned the no-bid contract to build the $678 million Obamacare enrollment website at Healthcare.gov. CGI Federal is the U.S. arm of a Canadian company.


Townes-Whitley and her Princeton classmate Michelle Obama are both members of the Association of Black Princeton Alumni.


Toni Townes ’85 is a onetime policy analyst with the General Accounting Office and previously served in the Peace Corps in Gabon, West Africa. Her decision to return to work, as an African-American woman, after six years of raising kids was applauded by a Princeton alumni publication in 1998


Keep reading…
There is also more connection. Obama and Townes-Whitley both worked with the Third World Center and with the “Organization of Black Unity”.



Here is the description in both of their respective bios:


Michelle Obama from First Ladies Bios:
Princeton University, Princeton, New Jersey, 1981-1985, bachelor’s degree in Sociology, with a minor degree in African-American Studies. She worked with both the Third World Center and belonged to the Organization of Black Unity, an African-American student group.
Toni Townes-Whitley from LinkedIn:
Princeton University
Bachelor of Arts, Economics & Public Policy
1981 – 1985
Frederick Douglas Award, Woodrow Wilson School Honors, Director “The Wiz”, Initiator – Swahili Foreign Language Course
Activities and Societies: Woodrow Wilson School, Third World Center, Princeton Gospel Ensemble, Alliance of Third World Women, Organization of Black Unity




Mooch.

 

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Hitler finds out about Obamacare exchange problems.

The Jawa Report: Healthcare.gov Downfall



,,,and this just in:

Obamcare Company CGI Executive Is Michelle Obama’s Princeton Classmate; Both Belonged To “Organization Of Black Unity”

Coincidence, I’m sure. Perhaps someone would like to ask a question in testimony on this?



Via Daily Caller:
First Lady Michelle Obama’s Princeton classmate is a top executive at the company that earned the contract to build the failed Obamacare website.


Toni Townes-Whitley, Princeton class of ’85, is senior vice president at CGI Federal, which earned the no-bid contract to build the $678 million Obamacare enrollment website at Healthcare.gov. CGI Federal is the U.S. arm of a Canadian company.


Townes-Whitley and her Princeton classmate Michelle Obama are both members of the Association of Black Princeton Alumni.


Toni Townes ’85 is a onetime policy analyst with the General Accounting Office and previously served in the Peace Corps in Gabon, West Africa. Her decision to return to work, as an African-American woman, after six years of raising kids was applauded by a Princeton alumni publication in 1998


Keep reading…
There is also more connection. Obama and Townes-Whitley both worked with the Third World Center and with the “Organization of Black Unity”.



Here is the description in both of their respective bios:


Michelle Obama from First Ladies Bios:
Princeton University, Princeton, New Jersey, 1981-1985, bachelor’s degree in Sociology, with a minor degree in African-American Studies. She worked with both the Third World Center and belonged to the Organization of Black Unity, an African-American student group.
Toni Townes-Whitley from LinkedIn:
Princeton University
Bachelor of Arts, Economics & Public Policy
1981 – 1985
Frederick Douglas Award, Woodrow Wilson School Honors, Director “The Wiz”, Initiator – Swahili Foreign Language Course
Activities and Societies: Woodrow Wilson School, Third World Center, Princeton Gospel Ensemble, Alliance of Third World Women, Organization of Black Unity




Mooch.

Crony capitalists who would have guessed .
 

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Every forum wannabe that doesn't like their health care should just be a good boy/girl and transfer it to a needy Yank that remains uncovered by insurance.
 

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Lib Cartoonist Ted Rall: 'Truth Behind ACA Mess Is Obama and His Gang of Golfing Buddies Are Idiots'

People familiar with liberal cartoonist and polemicist Ted Rall will be shocked by a piece he published at Daily Kos Friday wherein he actually agreed with former Alaska governor Sarah Palin.

Trust me, they'll likely be even more shocked with what he had to say about President Obama.

At the center of Rall's piece was Palin's October 20 article wherein she joined a number of conservative commentators in claiming ObamaCare was intentionallly screwed up in order to bring about the liberal dream of a single-payer system.

After citing much of her piece, Rall opined:

If Team Obama had been plotting Canadian-style socialized medicine all along, they wouldn't have floated all those dumb "heckuva job, Barry"-style excuses that turned healthcare.gov into the president's Katrina moment:

• Too much volume. But corporate websites routinely handle more than the ACA sites. Besides, the feds knew that, in a nation with tens of millions of uninsured people, tens of millions of people were going to check out the website. The truth, as any idiot could plainly see, was that volume wasn't the issue.

Lousy coding was.

• ACA is "more than a website" — and anyway, why don't people use the phone? Actually, that's not true. For most people, the ACA are the websites. That's how Obamacare was promoted. People were told to go online. So they did. As for those who threw up their hands and tried calling — I was one of them — there was no way to buy a plan by phone.

• Everyone knew there would be glitches. The problem with that Democratic talking point is that while Americans may suffer from short memories, they're not totally retarded. We still recall September 2013. It's not like anyone in the White House announced before the launch: "Hey, don't freak if you can't access the websites right away. Chillax, wait a month or two. We're expecting a lot of glitches, and things could be less than cromulent for a while."

No, Governor Palin, the truth behind the ACA mess is that Obama and his gang of golfing buddies are idiots.


Now before folks faint, be reminded that in 2011, Rall said he was having a hard time getting anyone to publish his anti-Obama pieces. As such, this is a rare liberal willing to expose the emperor's nakedness.

He continued:

Primarily, Obama and the Democrats were idiots to think that the ACA's bastard hybrid of public and private could function properly — certainly not on "a project of such immense complexity. The federal exchange must communicate with other contractors and with databases of numerous federal agencies and more than 170 insurance carriers."

Look at what happened to the Postal Service: neither beast nor fowl, the uncomfortable marriage of for-profit business and Congressionally mandated payouts has pushed an otherwise viable organization to the brink of collapse.


Interesting that Rall would use the Postal Service. Conservatives did the same thing in fighting the enactment of ObamaCare. Amtrak and the DMV were also favorites.

After citing another paragraph from Palin's piece which concluded that we're heading to "full socialized medicine," Rall ended his article astonishingly writing, "I never thought I'd say this, but: From Sarah Palin's lips to God's ears."

Imagine how shocked Kossacks must have been reading that.


Lib Cartoonist Ted Rall: 'Truth Behind ACA Mess Is Obama and His Gang of Golfing Buddies Are Idiots' | NewsBusters

Daily Kos: Via Sarah Palin: How Obama's Idiotic ACA Might Lead to Real Healthcare Reform
 

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Tales from the Virtual Waiting Room

In my weekend column on Obamacare, I mentioned CGI’s involvement with the Canadian Government’s most notorious flop of recent years – the national firearms registry. The database simply could not be fixed, to the point where CGI were commissioned to build a new, parallel database, which never worked either. John Fund’s column this morning suggests that IT guys take a similar view of Obamacare’s database (it’s not a “website” problem, in that whether you apply by phone, fax, USPS, Western Union or pigeon post, in the end someone has to process it using the same system that online users can’t make work). John includes this story:
Ben Simo, a former president of the Association for Software Testing, says he now has “zero trust” in Healthcare.gov. He had started an application on the site for a family member but abandoned the application, he wrote on his blog. The status screen showed that the application was left “in progress,” but then he received a notification that his application had been processed and his eligibility results were available. “How is it that my application was processed when I did not submit the application?”
When you don’t complete your Amazon purchase, that’s usually the end of it. But not with government:
Not only did they process an application I did not submit, the letter says they referred my application to a state agency — a state agency with which I did not authorize them to share any information.
And, unlike buying a book at Amazon, when a government website goes awry, it has potentially life-changing consequences:
“The decision letter I received says that I have ten days to appeal any decisions or I will be ineligible for coverage in the future,” Simo says. “Now, they’ve put me in a position that I have to get Healthcare.gov and a state agency to collaborate to withdraw the application I never submitted.”
Good luck with that.
 

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Tales from the Virtual Waiting Room

In my weekend column on Obamacare, I mentioned CGI’s involvement with the Canadian Government’s most notorious flop of recent years – the national firearms registry. The database simply could not be fixed, to the point where CGI were commissioned to build a new, parallel database, which never worked either. John Fund’s column this morning suggests that IT guys take a similar view of Obamacare’s database (it’s not a “website” problem, in that whether you apply by phone, fax, USPS, Western Union or pigeon post, in the end someone has to process it using the same system that online users can’t make work). John includes this story:
Ben Simo, a former president of the Association for Software Testing, says he now has “zero trust” in Healthcare.gov. He had started an application on the site for a family member but abandoned the application, he wrote on his blog. The status screen showed that the application was left “in progress,” but then he received a notification that his application had been processed and his eligibility results were available. “How is it that my application was processed when I did not submit the application?”
When you don’t complete your Amazon purchase, that’s usually the end of it. But not with government:
Not only did they process an application I did not submit, the letter says they referred my application to a state agency — a state agency with which I did not authorize them to share any information.
And, unlike buying a book at Amazon, when a government website goes awry, it has potentially life-changing consequences:
“The decision letter I received says that I have ten days to appeal any decisions or I will be ineligible for coverage in the future,” Simo says. “Now, they’ve put me in a position that I have to get Healthcare.gov and a state agency to collaborate to withdraw the application I never submitted.”
Good luck with that.
But but its for the children don't you know .
 

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I can understand how difficult it must be for the American people to have to swallow this socialized medical scheme of Obama, they've had to swallow so much socialized medicaid.
November 19, 2008
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via Good Morning America




The CEOs of the big three automakers flew to the nation's capital yesterday in private luxurious jets to make their case to Washington that the auto industry is running out of cash and needs $25 billion in taxpayer money to avoid bankruptcy.

The CEOs of GM, Ford and Chrysler may have told Congress that they will likely go out of business without a bailout yet that has not stopped them from traveling in style, not even First Class is good enough.
 

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Healthcare is socialized? Could be that gov't dictates which insurance company you get, or all the ins. companies are gov't owned, etc. Or perhaps, MissPlaced, you are mistaken about what the concept of socialism is. Apparently, in your view, if one follows any gov't mandates, they are socialist as well as gov't. lol

Loc, I am sure that if I read DUHbama's healthcare stuff, I'd disagree with it. But then, I'd disagree with anyone boosting private profit at the expense of Joe and Sue Average. And I distrust politicians in general.