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Tecumsehsbones

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Go to the hospital
And what will happen there? According to the U.S. Code. . .

(a) Medical screening requirement

In the case of a hospital that has a hospital emergency department, if any individual (whether or not eligible for benefits under this subchapter) comes to the emergency department and a request is made on the individual’s behalf for examination or treatment for a medical condition, the hospital must provide for an appropriate medical screening examination within the capability of the hospital’s emergency department, including ancillary services routinely available to the emergency department, to determine whether or not an emergency medical condition (within the meaning of subsection (e)(1) of this section) exists.

(b) Necessary stabilizing treatment for emergency medical conditions and labor

(1) In general

If any individual (whether or not eligible for benefits under this subchapter) comes to a hospital and the hospital determines that the individual has an emergency medical condition, the hospital must provide either—

(A) within the staff and facilities available at the hospital, for such further medical examination and such treatment as may be required to stabilize the medical condition, or

(B) for transfer of the individual to another medical facility in accordance with subsection (c) of this section.

* * *

(e) Definitions

In this section:

(1) The term “emergency medical condition” means—

(A) a medical condition manifesting itself by acute symptoms of sufficient severity (including severe pain) such that the absence of immediate medical attention could reasonably be expected to result in—

(i) placing the health of the individual (or, with respect to a pregnant woman, the health of the woman or her unborn child) in serious jeopardy,

(ii) serious impairment to bodily functions, or

(iii) serious dysfunction of any bodily organ or part; or

(B) with respect to a pregnant woman who is having contractions—

(i) that there is inadequate time to effect a safe transfer to another hospital before delivery, or

(ii) that transfer may pose a threat to the health or safety of the woman or the unborn child.

42 USC § 1395dd
 

EagleSmack

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And what will happen there? According to the U.S. Code. . .

(a) Medical screening requirement

In the case of a hospital that has a hospital emergency department, if any individual (whether or not eligible for benefits under this subchapter) comes to the emergency department and a request is made on the individual’s behalf for examination or treatment for a medical condition, the hospital must provide for an appropriate medical screening examination within the capability of the hospital’s emergency department, including ancillary services routinely available to the emergency department, to determine whether or not an emergency medical condition (within the meaning of subsection (e)(1) of this section) exists.

(b) Necessary stabilizing treatment for emergency medical conditions and labor

(1) In general

If any individual (whether or not eligible for benefits under this subchapter) comes to a hospital and the hospital determines that the individual has an emergency medical condition, the hospital must provide either—

(A) within the staff and facilities available at the hospital, for such further medical examination and such treatment as may be required to stabilize the medical condition, or

(B) for transfer of the individual to another medical facility in accordance with subsection (c) of this section.

* * *

(e) Definitions

In this section:

(1) The term “emergency medical condition” means—

(A) a medical condition manifesting itself by acute symptoms of sufficient severity (including severe pain) such that the absence of immediate medical attention could reasonably be expected to result in—

(i) placing the health of the individual (or, with respect to a pregnant woman, the health of the woman or her unborn child) in serious jeopardy,

(ii) serious impairment to bodily functions, or

(iii) serious dysfunction of any bodily organ or part; or

(B) with respect to a pregnant woman who is having contractions—

(i) that there is inadequate time to effect a safe transfer to another hospital before delivery, or

(ii) that transfer may pose a threat to the health or safety of the woman or the unborn child.

42 USC § 1395dd


You just answered your own question! If you need treatment... you shall receive! As it has always been.

When I got out of the Marines and 30 days had passed ( I think it was 30) I no longer had Health Insurance. Unfortunately I had to make a visit to the ER of a hospital with no isurance. I was treated... and billed.

 

Tecumsehsbones

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You just answered your own question! If you need treatment... you shall receive! As it has always been.

When I got out of the Marines and 30 days had passed ( I think it was 30) I no longer had Health Insurance. Unfortunately I had to make a visit to the ER of a hospital. I was treated... and billed.


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EagleSmack

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So are you sympathetic with me that I was billed (because it was a whopper of a bill)... or that I was treated w/o health insurance?
 

EagleSmack

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In other words I've made you look foolish and now you're butt hurt. lol

Don't make it so easy next time then.
 

EagleSmack

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It's hard to reason with someone who can't distinguish between medical care and emergency care.

Oh come off of it. Every time someone needs medical care all they need to do is go to the ER and get medical care. And that is exactly what they do.

And BTW... I had post care without insurance and got billed for that as well.
 

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Who Are The Obamacare Navigators And How Much Are We Paying For Them?

We now have seen a list of 465 Obamacare navigators. What can this list tell us about the program?

1. Millions and millions of dollars

It is important to understand that all the navigators listed are not just helping steer people through the Obamacare maze out of the goodness of their hearts. Each group/person listed has been awarded a grant (translate: tax payer dollars) to “navigate” people through the process.

For example, the Community Action Network of Nebraska (CAN) which has a few chapters amongst the listings, was awarded a grant for $562, 457.

There are 454 listings other than CAN.

While the grants are variable in amount, imagine the math on this, and how much has been spent-millions upon millions.

2. Where are the young people?

If you scan the navigators, one thing becomes clear. It is geared toward minority and low income populations, the people who often do not have insurance. From that perspective, it makes a certain amount of sense. But low income is going to get subsidies or Medicaid. In order to sustain the system, you need the young healthy folks who don’t already have insurance to sign up to be able to pay into the system so it doesn’t collapse on itself.


u mad socially engineered America? u should be.



Who Are The Obamacare Navigators And How Much Are We Paying For Them? | Weasel Zippers
 

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Wait until the minimum numbers of insured don't materialize and the system collapses under its own weight.
 

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Oh come off of it. Every time someone needs medical care all they need to do is go to the ER and get medical care. And that is exactly what they do.

And BTW... I had post care without insurance and got billed for that as well.


E-Smack- that is exactly what bankrupts the system. Its not what ER's are designed for. Doctor's offices are designed for first level, non crucial care.

Even had my 'roids trimmed in a doctors' clinic. Much less expensive,& left me less of an arsehole than before...