That's because you're a gol-dang socialist communist atheist Kenyan Muslim. Don't believe in freedom. The kinda freedom that can only be preserved with a Kel-Tec PF9 in your waistband.
Smile! You’ve Got Socialized Healthcare!
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So you had your thyroid removed in Canada... and they did such a great job.
But they never ACTUALLY removed your thyroid after all... so you had to have it done in a U.S hospital. Surgery that should have been done correctly in Canada.
What a great story of the Canadian Health Care system!
Thanks for sharing!
But they never ACTUALLY removed your thyroid after all... so you had to have it done in a U.S hospital. Surgery that should have been done correctly in Canada.
What a great story of the Canadian Health Care system!
Thanks for sharing!
Don't be stupid they removed half in Canada but because they told me the growth was on the outside pressing on my thyroid I thought they had removed only the growth. The other half was removed in the US. Did you ever misunderstand what a doctor told you? What I did was misinform the dr in the US, but he got it figured out before the surgery. I didn't say he was dumb just very very expensive. Perhaps you could do the math to figure out what the difference was between my $12,000.00 and the 80% the insurance paid! Actually Canada's medical is better than the US as well as cheaper! Canada ranks #30 while the US ranks 38th.
AS THEY go about their various efforts to undermine the Affordable Care Act, Republicans regularly declare that the federal law is a dire threat to the best health care system on the planet.
Mind you, this is hardly the first time conservatives have had a little problem with perspective. Recall that Ronald Reagan once warned Americans that if Medicare passed, “you and I are going to spend our sunset years telling our children, and our children’s children, what it once was like in America when men were free.”
These days, when senior care is the topic, Republicans are more likely to be found criticizing President Obama for trimming Medicare to finance the ACA.
The ACA itself, of course, is viewed as a wrecking ball aimed at a health care system that GOP leaders see as without parallel. Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell calls it “the finest health care system in the world.” House Speaker John Boehner declares it “the best health care delivery system in the world.”
It’s certainly the most expensive system on the planet. Based on 2011 data, the US spends about $8,500 a year per person on health care. Switzerland and Norway both expend about $5,700, the Netherlands about $5,000. In 2011, France spent less than half of what we did, or about $4,100 per capita, while Sweden clocked in at about $4,000.
Given our per person costs, it shouldn’t come as a surprise that, even without universal coverage, the US spends a larger percentage of Gross Domestic Product than other industrial democracies. We’re at about 18 percent of GDP; the Netherlands, France, Germany, Canada, and Switzerland all spend between 11 and 12 percent. Norway and Sweden shell out less than 10 percent.The Affordable Care Act is viewed as a wrecking ball.
Ah, a skeptic — or a Republican congressional leader — might reply, but the US system offers better care. Not so. Not in the eyes of recipients, anyway.
The latest evidence comes from public-opinion surveys that sampled at least 1,000 people in each of 11 countries, research sponsored by the nonprofit, nonpartisan Commonwealth Fund.
So which country had the largest percentage of people reporting that, because of the cost, they hadn’t seen a doctor when they should have? That would be the United States, at 32 percent. It’s quite a drop to the number two position, shared by the Netherlands and New Zealand, at 20 percent, or to third, shared by France and Australia, at 14 percent.
Which country had the highest percentage saying they hadn’t filled a prescription or had skipped doses to save dollars? Once again, the United States, at 21 percent. No other country was even in double digits.
In light of the controversy over the ACA, here are two other interesting findings. Even among those who reported they were insured all year in the United States, 21 percent still said they had forgone a doctor’s appointment for cost reasons. Meanwhile, 42 percent of insured Americans said they had more than $1,000 in out-of-pocket medical expenses. Next closest? Australia, where 25 percent report spending that much.
Nor does the average American share the rosy Republican view of US health care.
Only a quarter of Americans said the US system worked well enough to need only minor changes, while almost half said it required “fundamental changes,” and another 27 percent said it should be completely rebuilt. That far outstrips the level of discontent reported in the other countries. The closest were Germany and Canada, where only 42 percent thought their systems worked relatively well; but even there, the percentages who said health care in their nation needed a complete overhaul were less than half of the US figure.
Meanwhile, other data shows that US life expectancy is well back in the pack of the 34 countries of the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development, behind all of western Europe.
“The US often thinks its health care is the best, but we really don’t stack up very well when we compare ourselves to other high-income countries,’’ notes Cathy Schoen, senior vice president at the Commonwealth Fund. “We spend a lot more, our access is often worse, we face more medical debt, and our health outcomes are often worse.”
The point, then, is a simple one. Yes, the ACA’s roll-out has been a frustrating mess. But the idea that Obamacare will somehow ruin a uniquely stellar health care system just doesn’t scan, because that’s not the system we have.
http://www.bostonglobe.com/opinion/...-world-best/lYaLDSJNLZGczOH9SNYmkO/story.html
Ok... YOU thought your whole thyroid was removed but it wasn't... but I am stupid. Geez.
And the Boston Globe is a liberal Obama butt kissing rag. It's MSNBC in print.
Sure it is. So good that Canadian politicians come to the US and pay for treatment rather than get it for free.
Top Canadian Politician Chooses U.S. Health Care | Heartlander Magazine
Have a nice day!
So. . . you love U.S. health care because it provides levels of care to rich people that you will never be allowed to have?
Talk about kissing the whip!
Keep deluding yourself and having more of your tax money going to help other people for their medical care, when we know you prefer paying for war.
What health care have I been denied? Not once have I been.
Now go say something even more stupid. I can hardly wait.
So cute.
As if ACA is going to be giving US tax payers a break.
Hey I just flipped a book over to compare the prices...
U.S.A- $20.00
CAN- $27.00
Oh... it's all free Health Care up there. lol No wonder the vast majority of Canadians are snuggled to the US border and cross the border in the hundreds of thousands to shop here and use our airports.
Believe what you will, Canadian medical is cheaper all around even if you can't admit it. Shopping and flying from the US is a whole other subject. I really don't give a flying fig what you believe , you can believe you are the queen of England but it won't make it true.
And saying I'd rather being paying for war was so on topic wasn't it? I love catching hypocrites in their own BS.
But was it really another subject? Why are your taxes so high? Health Care for starters.
Cheaper and you get what you pay for.
Until you try it you really have no clue, I have tried both. I know Canadian health care is better and cheaper and you will not believe it but our taxes aren't much more than yours but we get much more for our taxes. Again you can't conceive of something being better than the US but you haven't tried it either. I also know the French system is better than both the US and Canada's, but again you refuse to believe anything could be better than the US.
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Heartlander Magazine - part of the Heartland Institute which is a delusional right wing organization that regurgitates the same sh1t the Fo卐 network spews every night.
As for the Democrats who want change in Obamacare, they want to expand it. Not end it.
As for the Democrats who want change in Obamacare, they want to expand it. Not end it.
Obamacare creates winners at the expense of losers who will be aggrieved. Does the Canadian health care system divide citizens into winners and losers?
Insurance Companies To Get Taxpayer-Funded Bailouts If Not Enough People Enroll In Obamacare Thanks To Obscure Provision In The Law…
Which is basically a guarantee at this point.
Via Yahoo! News:
Which is basically a guarantee at this point.
Via Yahoo! News:
The insurance industry may be next in line to receive a hefty government bailout. That’s what could happen if signups for Obamacare fall short of expectations triggering an obscure provision in the Affordable Care Act that makes up any serious losses.
The potential price tag: millions of taxpayer dollars or more over a 3-year period.
So-called “risk corridors” were included in the 2010 health law to compensate insurance companies for major coverage losses in the event that far more older and sick people signed up for health plans than younger, healthy people and drove up their costs after they had set the premiums. If actual claims exceed projections by more than 3 percent under Obamacare, the government will compensate the industry for those losses.
The new federal and state-run insurance exchanges – plagued by hundreds of technical glitches and other operational problems – have reported signing up just 106,185 people nationwide through Nov. 2, amid signs that relatively few young adults are turning to the program for coverage.
That problem could be compounded by President Obama’s call last week for insurance companies to reverse course and restore millions of individual health care plans that were cancelled because they don’t meet the new higher standards under Obamacare. Some health industry officials and state insurance commissioners fear Obama’s request could destabilize the already troubled new exchanges and further discourage younger people from enrolling.
The potential price tag: millions of taxpayer dollars or more over a 3-year period.
So-called “risk corridors” were included in the 2010 health law to compensate insurance companies for major coverage losses in the event that far more older and sick people signed up for health plans than younger, healthy people and drove up their costs after they had set the premiums. If actual claims exceed projections by more than 3 percent under Obamacare, the government will compensate the industry for those losses.
The new federal and state-run insurance exchanges – plagued by hundreds of technical glitches and other operational problems – have reported signing up just 106,185 people nationwide through Nov. 2, amid signs that relatively few young adults are turning to the program for coverage.
That problem could be compounded by President Obama’s call last week for insurance companies to reverse course and restore millions of individual health care plans that were cancelled because they don’t meet the new higher standards under Obamacare. Some health industry officials and state insurance commissioners fear Obama’s request could destabilize the already troubled new exchanges and further discourage younger people from enrolling.
Says the one that freely uses Nazi symbols in many posts.
Is that why Canadian politicians pay for US Health Care instead of getting it for free in Canada?
Keep trying... you'll get there someday.
I think it's like most things Christianna, depends a lot on the individual's experience. About 25 years ago my wife had an emergency situation in Reno, we had out of country medical insurance, she was treated and released within an hour or so and it didn't cost us a dime. We personally won't set a foot in the U.S. without it, even if we are only going 10 miles over the line. Something as simple as a minor car accident can have you gaining consciousness and find out they own your house. -
I wonder what plans people are getting... Gold , silver , or bronze? Because everyone will be equal now.
Aren't "winners" invariably created at the expense of "losers". Obama certainly isn't alone in this creation! -