Sixth Annual Israeli Apartheid Week

[earth_as_one]

Contact Carelton University - They should be able to help you - I do mean on the many questions - I am sure they have plenty of time on their hands. Please be sure to cut and paste a long questionaire.

I did contact them and gave them links to the Goldstone and Amnesty reports, as well as links to B'Tselem and Badil. I'm not expecting a response.

These rating obviously don't take into account the reasons why Israel is an Apartheid state. I'm sure Apartheid South Africa would have got a glowing report if you only considered the situation for "whites" and ignored "blacks" and "coloreds". Also they treat Israel differently than China. The report does not give ratings for Tibet, which was occupied by China about the same time Zionists began their ethnic cleansing war. Yet it does give ratings for the West Bank and Gaza, which were the only non UN recognized nations on the list. If they were to be fair and wanted to list Gaza and the West Bank separately, they would have to list every occupied territory separately from their occupying nations. Only Israel got this special treatment, which is why the report is flawed.

 

[CDNBear]

I did contact them and gave them links to the Goldstone and Amnesty reports, as well as links to B'Tselem and Badil. I'm not expecting a response.

These rating obviously don't take into account the reasons why Israel is an Apartheid state. I'm sure Apartheid South Africa would have got a glowing report if you only considered the situation for "whites" and ignored "blacks" and "coloreds". Also they treat Israel differently than China. The report does not give ratings for Tibet, which was occupied by China about the same time Zionists began their ethnic cleansing war. Yet it does give ratings for the West Bank and Gaza, which were the only non UN recognized nations on the list. If they were to be fair and wanted to list Gaza and the West Bank separately, they would have to list every occupied territory separately from their occupying nations. Only Israel got this special treatment, which is why the report is flawed.

You know what, you wouldn't be the target of so much contempt, if you used reason, fact, critical, commonsense and used a lot less extremism, exaggeration and rhetoric to support you position.

 

[ironsides]

I did contact them and gave them links to the Goldstone and Amnesty reports, as well as links to B'Tselem and Badil. I'm not expecting a response.

These rating obviously don't take into account the reasons why Israel is an Apartheid state. I'm sure Apartheid South Africa would have got a glowing report if you only considered the situation for "whites" and ignored "blacks" and "coloreds". Also they treat Israel differently than China. The report does not give ratings for Tibet, which was occupied by China about the same time Zionists began their ethnic cleansing war. Yet it does give ratings for the West Bank and Gaza, which were the only non UN recognized nations on the list. If they were to be fair and wanted to list Gaza and the West Bank separately, they would have to list every occupied territory separately from their occupying nations. Only Israel got this special treatment, which is why the report is flawed.

It would help if you knew just what a Apartheid state was, South African was the one and since it changed to a nice peaceful place to live Apartheid no longer exists in this world. Now that statement as we all know is about as ridiculous as one can be, Apartheid does exist, but not in Israel. Your incessant stoning of Israel is putting question to yourself. How about taking a little vacation to Israel your self and see what is going on. Books only get you so far.

 

[CDNBear]

Books only get you so far.

Books?

eao doesn't read books, he parrots web sites, other peoples opinion and blatant propaganda, so long as it supports his own.

If eao actually read books, I mean real books, like the ones that are pear reviewed historical documentaries. eao would be far more balanced.

 

[MHz]

It would help if you knew just what a Apartheid state was, South African was the one and since it changed to a nice peaceful place to live Apartheid no longer exists in this world. Now that statement as we all know is about as ridiculous as one can be, Apartheid does exist, but not in Israel. Your incessant stoning of Israel is putting question to yourself. How about taking a little vacation to Israel your self and see what is going on. Books only get you so far.

Perhaps you should take your own advice and go check out Gaza. On the way watch this news article.

Watch Video Occupation 101 at blinkx

 

[CDNBear]

Perhaps you should take your own advice and go check out Gaza. On the way watch this news article.

Watch Video Occupation 101 at blinkx

You should go back and watch that again. This time pay close attention to the open quote.

It would serve you well to heed its message. Given the huge holes punched in yours and eao rhetoric. It would seem the illusion is all yours.

 

[MHz]

Books?

eao doesn't read books, he parrots web sites, other peoples opinion and blatant propaganda, so long as it supports his own.

If eao actually read books, I mean real books, like the ones that are pear reviewed historical documentaries. eao would be far more balanced.

Pear reviewed only means accepted by the establishment that has a certain agenda to promote, it has nothing to do with truth.

 

[CDNBear]

Pear reviewed only means accepted by the establishment that has a certain agenda to promote, it has nothing to do with truth.

If you're talking about opinions.

I'm not.

And this only highlights how you've come to live in a delusion. I would say illusion, but given you haven't noticed where those of us that counter your extremism and rhetoric, have admitted that Israel is not innocent. Only shows that you live in a deluded state.

 

[CDNBear]

Pear reviewed only means accepted by the establishment that has a certain agenda to promote, it has nothing to do with truth.

And let me ask you this...

Is this fact or opinion...?

Watch Video Occupation 101 at blinkx

And I am watching it, like I do with everything posted.

 

[MHz]

If you're talking about opinions.

I'm not.

And this only highlights how you've come to live in a delusion. I would say illusion, but given you haven't noticed where those of us that counter your extremism and rhetoric, have admitted that Israel is not innocent. Only shows that you live in a deluded state.

I've noticed it, how could you not have admitted that, you also fail to say just what those faults were though and I doubt you would include any commanders or heads of states.? lol
You excuse many more than you condemn while spouting how awful it was for them when they were under Military rule.

Case in point is the flour-mill. The follow-up UN report states that Israel would not have planted any shell-casing on the roof even though they had control of the compound for 3 days (and nights, lol) because it would have been putting them in danger. If I was on trial I would want my Lawyer to challenge that point. Your challenge to that should be the UN was ruling on the validity of the same report they ordered be done. If Hamas released a vid similar to this one about seeing Israeli troops on the roof at some point in those 3 days they had the compound that assessment would have to be changed. The vid no longer works BTW. (looks like they keep their satellite on a hay-wagon)
Hamas Releases Footage Of ‘Gaza Clashes’

In the vid where the settlers are protected by the IDF while they pour cement into a well, that is considered a very serious crime, the charge should be against the IDF and the only trial it would require is a plea. Which commander (or politician) should be the one to swing from the rope?

 

[CDNBear]

I've noticed it, how could you not have admitted that, you also fail to say just what those faults were though and I doubt you would include any commanders or heads of states.? lol

I would very much include the reports of Commanders and heads of states. So long as their testimony is presented with the required documentation to support their assertions.

You excuse many more than you condemn while spouting how awful it was for them when they were under Military rule.

BS! I have proven time and time again, that much of what is posted as "Look what Israel did now", is pure BS.

There was nothing their to condone, or condemn.

Case in point is the flour-mill.

Quite, and here is where the general public, of which you are a resident, haven't clue one. And until you educate yourself on the Laws of Armed Conflict, Rules of Engagement and Historical Military Tactics, you will continue to believe anything fed to you. No matter how outlandish.

http://www.politicaltheatrics.net/2010/03/hamas-releases-footage-of-gaza-clashes/

Hamas Releases Footage Of ‘Gaza Clashes’

I'll watch it in a minute, I'm still watching your other video, which I should point out is a wonderful piece of propaganda.

In the vid where the settlers are protected by the IDF while they pour cement into a well, that is considered a very serious crime, the charge should be against the IDF and the only trial it would require is a plea. Which commander (or politician) should be the one to swing from the rope?

I haven't watched it yet, but if that is what is actually happening, then I would agree, that is punitive in nature and a crime. But considering it's old news, if it's the same incident I'm thinking of, it was dismissed by the ICC as not factual.

 

[MHz]

And let me ask you this...

Is this fact or opinion...?

And I am watching it, like I do with everything posted.

I posted it back a few pages also. Once it gets to 1947 Israel notice the 'enforcers' carry more bats than they do 'guns'. Inside the house would still be a terrifying incident, the Jews were largely responsible for the passage of Laws that made that activity a crime that the state was responsible for. The lack of enforcement is a steady 100% only for Isreal, Palestinians have always had pressure put on them to accept a deal that was not in it's best interest. That should mean all their complaints can revert back to the deal that was shoved down their throats in that they were denied any avenue for appeal.

How does WWII have anything at all to do with a plan that was hatched in 1880 by the same clan that has a record of manipulating events to their advantage. Today the victims would probably revolt .... scratch that ...... docile little critters read only 'accredited' material .... that would make them the ones who can and have pulled strings to many events that profited only them. In the 911 thread you claim to be looking for the ones behind the scenes, when shown who should be investigated both hands go up and you parrot, "They are innocent, case closed."

The theory of a massive flood creating the Scab-lands was rejected by the 'accredited' when first 'proposed', now some are promoting glacial lakes caused much of the erosion in almost every river we have today when they broke free from the ice. 50 years from now the 'cracks theory' might have more acceptance when it can be shown that moving the crust 25 miles from where it was solid to where we stand on it today will result in stress that could include an opening that would best be described as being a crack suck as the Grand Canyon.
The 'accredited' books are also based on source material that not everybody agrees with because it's conclusion is based on a certain amount of material rather than all of the material.

 

[CDNBear]

I posted it back a few pages also. Once it gets to 1947 Israel notice the 'enforcers' carry more bats than they do 'guns'. Inside the house would still be a terrifying incident, the Jews were largely responsible for the passage of Laws that made that activity a crime that the state was responsible for. The lack of enforcement is a steady 100% only for Isreal, Palestinians have always had pressure put on them to accept a deal that was not in it's best interest. That should mean all their complaints can revert back to the deal that was shoved down their throats in that they were denied any avenue for appeal.

I don't see how that answeres my question, but I'll address it none the less.

First off, they were offered a country, they turned it down. Israel made their's, they have a vibrant society that is open and free for all citizens.

Palestine is a mess. Although they still have a level of society that is not without its measurable injustices. It is still a place where people safe to live and life does go on.

Now, don't you think, in retrospect, that taking the deal would have been a much more palatable endeavor?

How does WWII have anything at all to do with a plan that was hatched in 1880 by the same clan that has a record of manipulating events to their advantage. Today the victims would probably revolt .... scratch that ...... docile little critters read only 'accredited' material .... that would make them the ones who can and have pulled strings to many events that profited only them. In the 911 thread you claim to be looking for the ones behind the scenes, when shown who should be investigated both hands go up and you parrot, "They are innocent, case closed."

Can you please stay on topic? I mean seriously, I'm talking about specific events where the facts just don't warrant the stupidity you and you ilk purport.

I'm not even going to entertain the idiocy behind your asinine conspiracies of the Joos run the world crap at this point. Save that for a different thread.

The theory of a massive flood creating the Scab-lands was rejected by the 'accredited' when first 'proposed', now some are promoting glacial lakes caused much of the erosion in almost every river we have today when they broke free from the ice. 50 years from now the 'cracks theory' might have more acceptance when it can be shown that moving the crust 25 miles from where it was solid to where we stand on it today will result in stress that could include an opening that would best be described as being a crack suck as the Grand Canyon.
The 'accredited' books are also based on source material that not everybody agrees with because it's conclusion is based on a certain amount of material rather than all of the material.

8O...dude, up the meds!

 

[MHz]

I would very much include the reports of Commanders and heads of states. So long as their testimony is presented with the required documentation to support their assertions.
BS! I have proven time and time again, that much of what is posted as "Look what Israel did now", is pure BS.

There was nothing their to condone, or condemn.

Quite, and here is where the general public, of which you are a resident, haven't clue one. And until you educate yourself on the Laws of Armed Conflict, Rules of Engagement and Historical Military Tactics, you will continue to believe anything fed to you. No matter how outlandish.

You either want me to feel sorrow for civilians in a war zone or you don't, don't expect the sorrow to be for a people that were under persecution and expect me to believe they are still under persecution when they are the Military power. If civilians are the target they have the right of offer resistance. You have mentally adopted the Americanized version of war, disarm them fence them in and open fire. Isn't the greatest army and their wannabee friends bogged down by a few snipers and the ones who leave booby-traps.

I'll watch it in a minute, I'm still watching your other video, which I should point out is a wonderful piece of propaganda.

Nice open mind. lol What would you expect really, it is a complaint but the events are real and just what parts after the 4min mark are faked or staged?

I haven't watched it yet, but if that is what is actually happening, then I would agree, that is punitive in nature and a crime. But considering it's old news, if it's the same incident I'm thinking of, it was dismissed by the ICC as not factual.

Read the link, the vid no longer plays, I saw it last night. The still frame is to show the quality is poor but it can't be denied that any court would accept this as proof of where they came in from and how long they were there and a few other things like the time the medics got there. In the short segment I watched there could have been no attempt to kidnap anybody.

 

[MHz]

I don't see how that answeres my question, but I'll address it none the less.

First off, they were offered a country, they turned it down. Israel made their's, they have a vibrant society that is open and free for all citizens.

Palestine is a mess. Although they still have a level of society that is not without its measurable injustices. It is still a place where people safe to live and life does go on.

Now, don't you think, in retrospect, that taking the deal would have been a much more palatable endeavor?

Once the propaganda is removed this is all that need a reply.
In retrospect was it better to turn Native children over to the Catholic schools along with the other abuses that came after signing a peace treaty.

Doesn't matter what deals were made or could have been made, the slaughter would have continued. The 'divide' you say they should have taken was less than what Rothschild clan first envisioned, they will agree and then just take what they originally wanted. You should know that better than most.

 

[CDNBear]

You either want me to feel sorrow for civilians in a war zone or you don't, don't expect the sorrow to be for a people that were under persecution and expect me to believe they are still under persecution when they are the Military power.

I don't expect anything from you, that you haven't already contributed. You will believe what you want and no amount of fact or suggested instruction will help you elevate yourself from the position you've chosen to take.

If civilians are the target they have the right of offer resistance.

Although I'm translating this without subtitles, I will say yes, civilians have the right to resist.

You have mentally adopted the Americanized version of war, disarm them fence them in and open fire.

:roll:...:lol:

Isn't the greatest army and their wannabee friends bogged down by a few snipers and the ones who leave booby-traps.

Yes, but I'm willing to bet you can't even fathom why.

Nice open mind.

What? I'm watching the video, but I see historical errors, I see footage being described as Israeli Armed Forces, but the uniform and weaponry is that of the the Jordanian Army. If that isn't propaganda I don't know what is Mhz.

lol What would you expect really, it is a complaint but the events are real and just what parts after the 4min mark are faked or staged?

I just mentioned one, and I'm well past the 4minute mark. Here's another, how about the narration describing the Israeli Haganah invading Palestine in 48, while the video shows Britich marked Tanks in the Jordanian Armoured Corp, rolling down streets.

That's outright propaganda. It leads people like you that don't know any better, to believe things that just aren't real.

Like the fact that Israle didn't have a single tank in 48, and certainly not a British marked Sherman, flanked by Jordanian Forces.

Read the link, the vid no longer plays, I saw it last night.

I wonder why YouTube pulled it?

The still frame is to show the quality is poor but it can't be denied that any court would accept this as proof of where they came in from and how long they were there and a few other things like the time the medics got there. In the short segment I watched there could have been no attempt to kidnap anybody.

Great, and I'll wait and see what the ICC does. If they dismiss it, there's obviously a reason why.

 

[CDNBear]

Once the propaganda is removed this is all that need a reply.

And this is why you will never rise above what you are. You have sifted through countless hour of pure drivel, and exposed your mind to such supercilious ideologies, that you can't tell fact from fiction anymore, I think that's sad.

But I'll tell you what I do find funny, the fact that all you really removed, was your own quotes...:lol:

In retrospect was it better to turn Native children over to the Catholic schools along with the other abuses that came after signing a peace treaty.

Obviously not, but then again, if you knew history, you would know that the bulk of the children were taken by force, not turned over.

Doesn't matter what deals were made or could have been made, the slaughter would have continued.

There's no proof of that, that's pure conjecture.

The 'divide' you say they should have taken was less than what Rothschild clan first envisioned, they will agree and then just take what they originally wanted. You should know that better than most.

How can I reason with someone that is so obviously challenged by reality...I feel sad for you and anyone you may infect with your devient ideological contagion.

 

[MHz]

Yes, but I'm willing to bet you can't even fathom why.

It has nothing to do with kindness towards civilians.

What? I'm watching the video, but I see historical errors, I see footage being described as Israeli Armed Forces, but the uniform and weaponry is that of the the Jordanian Army. If that isn't propaganda I don't know what is Mhz.

At what specific time in the vid.

 

[CDNBear]

It has nothing to do with kindness towards civilians.

Body counts dictate otherwise, another fact lost on you.

At what specific time in the vid, the first 3 or 4 mins have shots from many parts of the world.

I'm not going to watch the whole movie all over again to find it. If you chose to disbelieve me, so be it. It wouldn't change you mind if I nailed it to your head, so it really is a waste of my time.

But you're free to educate yourself on the military history of the region and try watching it again and see if you pick up on the propaganda, but I don't you want to. Why would you, you aren't interested in truth, your interested in maintain the fallacy.

 

[darkbeaver]

Good - Then please retract you comment that I am a racist towards Muslims or others - as that is not a fact.

You can trade the racist label for idiot or bigot or short guy who uses lift insoles and a rubber penis extension.:smile: